Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger
Legendary Creature — Praetor
Whenever you tap a land for mana, add one mana to your mana pool of any type that land produced.
Whenever an opponent taps a land for mana, that land doesn't untap during its controller's next untap step.
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Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger Discussion
2 hours ago
@fabled Yes I know! Dropping an Eldrazi titan causes the entire board to turn and try and run you over as soon as possible! that's why I feel Archetype of Endurance and Lightning Greaves are a must to protect things like Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger. I have noticed that adding those big costing creatures would dramatically raise my CMC though, and I may be vulnerable for several turns, or completely at mercy if someone manages to get rid of Kruphix, God of Horizons (people have managed to do this in my playgroup) so I do have that concern knowing my playgroup and adding too many big things.
4 days ago
Ah I see you updated this, my iPad had died before I hot to share my suggestions, and it looks like you added a bunch of them. Here is what I was going to share, you may even find something you may want that you had missed.
Omnath, Locus of Mana instead as your command perhaps, Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger, Mana Reflection, Beacon of Creation, Exploration, Burgeoning, Boundless Realms, Primeval Titan, Beacon of Discovery, Primeval Bounty, Retreat to Kazandu, Zendikar's Roil, Lotus Cobra, Explore Gaea's Touch, Rampaging Baloths, Ulvenwald Hydra + Rogue's Passage, Avenger of Zendikar, Embodiment of Insight, Courser of Kruphix, Dungrove Elder, Kalonian Twingrove.
For lands have Rogue's Passage, Myriad Landscape, Reliquary Tower and make use of Rishkar's Expertise, Nissa's Revelation and other similar effects, Oran-Rief, the Vastwood, then just forests wil do unless you want to go with Eldrazi then use Shrine of the Forsaken Gods, Sanctum of Ugin, Eye of Ugin and so on too.
I will try and help out with cutting down your creatures soon, you can if you want share decklists with others if you look within "edit" so that I am able to make changes to this deck otherwise I will do up something separate. The thing is, is that green is pretty good at making token related cards and that's why you can get away with a lot less creatures, and the ones you do have can be big such as Kozilek, Butcher of Truth for example.
6 days ago
I can see a buttload of potential for this deck. It does lack in card draw. I would use a Skullclamp for the little guys. Especially on Viridian Emissary and such. Another thing to potentially add for some more controlling ideas is Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger because you get double mana and everyone is shanked in the kidneys with it!
Another thing I've been wondering is "what are you going to do with all that mana meren makes"? Why not just dump it all into one thing just because you can have a mana dump. A great suggestion would be a Hydra Broodmaster or one of the other X hydras.
One that I've actually been thinking about is an artifact called, Planar Bridge because that's any permanent straight onto the battlefield.
1 week ago
Yeah vlisides4, I had Tooth and Nail in the deck until recently, but since I've lowered the CMC by about a point and embraced the full voltron of this build, there's aren't any crazy creatures to tutor up any more. As demonicgrizzly pointed out, I don't have a Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger or an Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre or such to go get with Tooth and Nail, so it would end up being high mana cost distraction from the aim of the deck, and that is to keep pumping up and attacking with Omnath, Locus of Mana.
That being said, the deck is currently in a state of flux. I've only played one game with it as it sits currently, and while it performed very well, it'll need more fine tuning, I'm sure.
Thanks for the comments, guys.
1 week ago
I don't think he really needs it, not likely that he has any creatures combos to tutor up. Now if he had Craterhoof Behemoth, that might be a hoot with omnath. Or Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger, however that is not a very cacsual card by any means.
2 weeks ago
This is really nice, maybe put in Thornweald Archer, deathtouch and reach is nice. Also, if your Yisan abilities let him survive long enough, you could go up to 9, which has stuff like Void Winnower, Artisan of Kozilek, Colossus of Sardia, etc. oh, also for 8, Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger is nice. and for 10 cmc, Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger, Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre, for 11, Darksteel Colossus, for 12, Blightsteel Colossus, for 13, Emrakul, the Promised End, for 14, i have no idea lol, for 15, Emrakul, the Aeons Torn, and lastly, for 16, Draco. I would'nt recommend actually going up to 16, maybe stop at 10 ish.
2 weeks ago
@ Austin_Smith_of_Cards : Thanks for your indepth comments. It's very appreciated. Let me walk though your suggestions.
I prefer not to play Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers as it does not do a whole lot extra. I need all the mana to keep my pace up for threats entering the battlefield. This land can only be found by Sisay most of the time and Sisay needs to grab threats. I also need cards which are plains and forest for tutors and Knight of the Reliquary.
Saffi Eriksdotter is a card that was once in this deck, but playing aggro I needed the spot for other dedicated cards which supported my build. Now that so much has changed since that call was made to remove him, I could possibly review this card. I will add this card to the maybeboard , as others mentioned as well. It never hurst to give it a look again.... Thanks for the good reminder!
Heroes' Podium feels like it's just a win-more card. I can see it come solid/threatening in certain situations. But those situations I tend to stay ahead of. As this is why is play so agressive.
Karametra, God of Harvests does not fit my ramp approach, as all ramp has been optimized to get Sisay on the battlefield asap. The indestructible is nice, but Avacyn, Angel of Hope covers this role already for the whole battlefield. It just doesn't fit in my aggro build well enough to justify a place.
Aura Shards is a card that is harder to find and with Enlightened Tutor I would not select this card. For consistency reasons it is not here and the few artifacts/enchantments that get pesky, I can answer with other means. The trouble in this build is that all cards should serve a role within the current tactic. If I would grab this card in my opening hand, then it would slow down the ramp suit to get Sisay out asap. More threatening options are then at hand. Basically it is just a great card, but not when you want to outpace your opponents like I try to accomplish. It would be a great sideboard card, if I would run a sideboard.
Mirari's Wake is mostly a card that I look at like my story above; it's great but not that needed atm for my build. For ramp I do have better options, which I can tutor with Sisay, like Selvala, Heart of the Wilds which really gets out of control soon after it lands.
Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger played this card in the past and in a multilayer environment I instantly became the most hated guy at the table for shutting down everybodies game. Meaning that all hate came instantly towards me. Very unpolitical if you still have several opponents waiting to be slaughtered, each on thier given time. But this card gives me 3 red dots on my front head. I prefer not to draw the attention of the whole table all at once.
Bow of Nylea : It's versatile, but it's not game changing, so I never got to use it in a way that it gave me more edge in a game. Other options proved to be more valid at those times, so eventually it was removed a few months ago. Having Sisay means you have an array of threats at your disposal. This just isn't one that will stand out in this build. This card is great in more stax/toolbox style of play Sisay.
Stone-Seeder Hierophant and Voyaging Satyr both untap with Paradox Engine. My precious Gaea's Cradle loves both creatues for giving me so much mana. They are great mana dorks which fulfill an important role early- and midgame.
I know it is hard to suggest cards, as this build is pretty well tuned over the year it now excists. But I really appreciate your efforts in helping me. If you have solid points, then I will always try to answer them and playtest them if it feels promising.
Have a great day sir!
2 weeks ago
As ine devoted Karanetra player to another, I must sag i enjoy this decklist, although I dont particularly like a couple cards in here, Courser of Kruphix and Oracle of Mul Daya namly because on e they hit the field you should already have a karametra out, and using your cheap creaters to proc her ability, bcause you dont have much card draw in general Karametra, God of Harvest's land proc already filters your deck pretty dam well so your top-decking is way better than most decks. I have a karametra deck in my edh list, although its not quiet updated! I also dont see Iona, Shield of Emeria or Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger in here, both of which a must have in my opinions, vorinclex gets hated out if you cant give him protection, but if you have out a Archetype of Endurance out then you should win the game then and there typically, also where are your landfall cards? Seer's Sundial is a must in this type of deck!! Cards like Tireless Tracker get pretty big pretty fast! Managorger Hydra is a great card aswell! Its cheap and if left ubcheched, wins the game. Ive won 2-3 games with it alone! I could go more in depth, but I'm on my cellphone right now!