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When Body Snatcher enters the battlefield, you may discard a creature card. If you don't, remove Body Snatcher from the game.
When Body Snatcher is put into a graveyard from play, remove Body Snatcher from the game and return target creature card from your graveyard to play.
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Body Snatcher Discussion
1 week ago
LabManiac_Cameron I'm playing right now, I took out everything but Body Snatcher and Phyrexian Delver. I put in Nezahal, Primal Tide, Razaketh, the Foulblooded and then an Animate Dead and a Dance of the Dead. Any suggestions for the other 2 replacements would be appreciated.
3 weeks ago
Mikaeus + Ballista combo requires a sac outlet:
Ballista neters as 1/1 because of Mikaeuses buff and it has no way of killing itself. A sac outlet sacrifices ballista and its undying triggers. Ballista returns as a 1/1 with a +1/+1 counter (2/2). Ballista uses its counter to deal 1 dmg to anything. Sac outlet sacrifices it again and since Balliste lost its +1/+1 counter undying triggers again and you can do this infinite number of times.
Adding Viscera Seer (Carrion Feeder is also an option, a strictly worse one at that but an option still) is a way of establishing a sac outlet while assembling Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Walking Ballista combo. If you already have a sac outlet, of course you go for Mikaeus and Ballista right away. But:
a) this makes Hulk more compact (and hence more reliable), since it doesn't rely on any other cards being on the battlefield. Instead of 2-card combo you have to tutor for, you only have to tutor for a single creature that has to die somehow (usually by your own effect, Necromancy and Flash being 2 great examples).
b) Sac outlets can be interacted with more easily than with a Hulk. Without a way to establish sac outlet while assembling a combo, the easiest way to stop Hulk combo from ging off is to disable sac outlet in question, and answers to those are more versatile than answers for Hulk itself
Since you mentioned going around combo pieces stuck in your hand in your First question, you might be itnerested in Body Snatcher. Not unlike Delver/Double addition for V.Seer, it opens up possibility of extending the hulk combo and dedicate more space to it in order to make it work even if some of the cards you want in your deck get stuck in your hand. Again, as it's easily tutorable with Hulk itself during the combo execution, it's an elegant solution to the problem (Hulk dies -> Body snatcher (discards Mikaeus)+ VSeer + mana dork, VSeer sacrifices Body snatcher -> Hulk reanimation, VSeer sacrifices Hulk -> Ballista and PDelver/BDouble (any of these revives/immitetes Mikaeus)).
1 month ago
Body Snatcher is a line into protean hulk combo that it seems not many people realize (And it's one that lets you protect your combo). Joraga Treespeaker and Priest of Titania are both no-tempo-loss type mana dorks that work well when the board is locked, especially with things like Contamination or Nether Void out, and even greater if Survival of the Fittest is out, this usually means I win, both of those were chosen over Mana Vault on purpose, especially since I may have to get a null rod out depending on how the game goes. Why Victimize? I run Necromancy instead, which can be cast during upkeep as instant to win the game. Yisan, the Wanderer Bard another tutor. Regrowth maybe something i will add. Abrupt Decay is worthless in this deck, stax is better.
Show me how to do that without the snatcher just using the delver if you have no sac outlet out?
Also, Sylvan Library > top. And I run Arena AND bob. Drawing cards seems to me like it's better than just looking at them.
But ok. I guess we'll just differ in opinions.
1 month ago
Body Snatcher, Joraga Treespeaker, not sure about Mindslicer (could go either way), Priest of Titania, and i dont realy agree with Yisan, Wanderer Bard in either list. I already mentioned one card you need, Mana Vault. where is your top? Victimize? Regrowth? Abrupt Decay?
3 months ago
Hey Wurmlover, if Mikaeus is in your hand when you start the hulk combo, the following line will solve that problem;
Protean Hulk Trigger Resolves -> Get Body Snatcher and Golgari Thug -> Body Snatcher triggers, discard Mikaeus to pay for it -> Sacrifice Golgari Thug -> Golgari Thug Triggers, putting Mikaeus on top of the deck -> Sacrifice Body Snatcher to reanimate Protean Hulk -> Sacrifice Protean Hulk -> Protean Hulk Trigger Resolves -> Get Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and Walking Ballista -> Win
Keep in mind, this information can be found in the primer under the Hulk Lines->Hulk Piles section, hope that helps!
4 months ago
ScrOuch Thanks for leaving some feedback for me!
Good call on the Phyrexian Delver it's been really strong.
Body Snatcher isn't a great flicker target, though if i run more sac outlets it might be better.
Dictate of Erebos isn't quite budget enough for me, I really like that the entire deck is under $50. This way when folks see it play out i can tell them the idea and that the deck could be upgraded as well
Outpost Siege is right on theme though i'm not sure what to cut for it
Blood Artist doesn't trigger on flickers, but it is a good card and in multiplayer games creatures die and i'll get value. I think I want to commit to the theme of flicker over good stuff additions right now though
Goblin Bombardment and Ashnod's Altar are good though i'm not to sure they will be strong enough if i don't add the dictate. Also the commander isn't the focus of the deck so adding things just for him seems loose IMO
LVL_666 Thanks for all your suggestions! Lets dive in,
Rune-Scarred Demon is out of budget range. It's not that I don't have it, I do, I just want to run the entire deck under $50. So that means missing out on Dictate of Erebos and the demon but adding Dreamscape Artist and Sire of Stagnation
Noxious Gearhulk I think i want to add, even with the price tag$. All my creature kill now can't kill black creatures and I kinda want more life gain and this card works on both levels. What's better though, Noxious Gearhulk or Inferno Titan???
Vial Smasher the Fierce dosen't fit the theme and is almost a good stuff addition, so I'll pass for now.
Crater Hellion, Ratchet Bomb and Sever the Bloodline are sweet anti token measures, here is what i was thinking Devastation Tide. It deals with the tokens, enchantments, planswalkers, and other unbeatable positions I could find myself in. What do you think?
quitrage Thanks for the bringing some sweet ideas to the table
Dance of the Dead I want to add, though i'm not sure i can think of the cut for it, any thoughts?
5 months ago
Sweet budget deck. Seems like a lot of fun!
About Pyromancer's Goggles: This card is really nice if you have many many red cards in deck, however, you only have 9 targets for the goggles of which only 4 to 5 are worth being copied and those cards won't make a huge game difference (except Ultimatum of course)
I'd rather suggest Dictate of Erebos for this deck since it's quite budgety and super effective! Phyrexian Delver or Body Snatcher are also great additions. Just cheat your creatures in instead of casting them. I would also play Outpost Siege or Impact Tremors (maybe also Blood Artist so every flickering is gonna have even more value. Some Sac Outlets like Goblin Bombardment or Ashnod's Altar can also help triggering your commanders ability and have nice synergies with the edict for example. Hope this helps!
7 months ago
Shiek200 I have had some serious fun with living death. Its the best card ever for a varied meta.
mlequesne As shiek said scourge is much better for our purposes. Voidia and I have been doing these layered multicombo decks for a while. What we found is that to make it work all your combos have to be compact as possible and all your enablers have to work for each combo as much as possible. Adding redundancy to FC with anoher combo only piece weakens every other combo. In a dedicated FC build griffin is good.
wylwist: It is certainly an issue but unfortunately the solutions are generally more costly than the issue itself. If we get ballista in hand no biggie just cast it for 0 after mike is in play. Same with Viscera Seer for 1. Also seer in play allows us to skip the whole delver step and go straight to mike and ballista. That leaves Mike or delver in hand as the issue. Body Double helps with the delver issue but does nothing for Mike. One card I have considered is Body Snatcher but its kind of meh on its own and I think it may also require another card (ex. Golgari Thug to work, which weakens the rest of the deck. At the end of the day if our pile does not work we attempt to pivot to a different wincondition. For instance, I have used flash hulk to grab something like eternal witness and eternal scourge/fauna shaman to assemble food chain.