Creature — Minion
When Body Snatcher enters the battlefield, you may discard a creature card. If you don't, remove Body Snatcher from the game.
When Body Snatcher is put into a graveyard from play, remove Body Snatcher from the game and return target creature card from your graveyard to play.
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Body Snatcher Discussion
2 days ago
ScrOuch Thanks for leaving some feedback for me!
Good call on the Phyrexian Delver it's been really strong.
Body Snatcher isn't a great flicker target, though if i run more sac outlets it might be better.
Dictate of Erebos isn't quite budget enough for me, I really like that the entire deck is under $50. This way when folks see it play out i can tell them the idea and that the deck could be upgraded as well
Outpost Siege is right on theme though i'm not sure what to cut for it
Blood Artist doesn't trigger on flickers, but it is a good card and in multiplayer games creatures die and i'll get value. I think I want to commit to the theme of flicker over good stuff additions right now though
Goblin Bombardment and Ashnod's Altar are good though i'm not to sure they will be strong enough if i don't add the dictate. Also the commander isn't the focus of the deck so adding things just for him seems loose IMO
LVL_666 Thanks for all your suggestions! Lets dive in,
Rune-Scarred Demon is out of budget range. It's not that I don't have it, I do, I just want to run the entire deck under $50. So that means missing out on Dictate of Erebos and the demon but adding Dreamscape Artist and Sire of Stagnation
Noxious Gearhulk I think i want to add, even with the price tag$. All my creature kill now can't kill black creatures and I kinda want more life gain and this card works on both levels. What's better though, Noxious Gearhulk or Inferno Titan???
Vial Smasher the Fierce dosen't fit the theme and is almost a good stuff addition, so I'll pass for now.
Crater Hellion, Ratchet Bomb and Sever the Bloodline are sweet anti token measures, here is what i was thinking Devastation Tide. It deals with the tokens, enchantments, planswalkers, and other unbeatable positions I could find myself in. What do you think?
quitrage Thanks for the bringing some sweet ideas to the table
Dance of the Dead I want to add, though i'm not sure i can think of the cut for it, any thoughts?
1 month ago
Sweet budget deck. Seems like a lot of fun!
About Pyromancer's Goggles: This card is really nice if you have many many red cards in deck, however, you only have 9 targets for the goggles of which only 4 to 5 are worth being copied and those cards won't make a huge game difference (except Ultimatum of course)
I'd rather suggest Dictate of Erebos for this deck since it's quite budgety and super effective! Phyrexian Delver or Body Snatcher are also great additions. Just cheat your creatures in instead of casting them. I would also play Outpost Siege or Impact Tremors (maybe also Blood Artist so every flickering is gonna have even more value. Some Sac Outlets like Goblin Bombardment or Ashnod's Altar can also help triggering your commanders ability and have nice synergies with the edict for example. Hope this helps!
3 months ago
Shiek200 I have had some serious fun with living death. Its the best card ever for a varied meta.
mlequesne As shiek said scourge is much better for our purposes. Voidia and I have been doing these layered multicombo decks for a while. What we found is that to make it work all your combos have to be compact as possible and all your enablers have to work for each combo as much as possible. Adding redundancy to FC with anoher combo only piece weakens every other combo. In a dedicated FC build griffin is good.
wylwist: It is certainly an issue but unfortunately the solutions are generally more costly than the issue itself. If we get ballista in hand no biggie just cast it for 0 after mike is in play. Same with Viscera Seer for 1. Also seer in play allows us to skip the whole delver step and go straight to mike and ballista. That leaves Mike or delver in hand as the issue. Body Double helps with the delver issue but does nothing for Mike. One card I have considered is Body Snatcher but its kind of meh on its own and I think it may also require another card (ex. Golgari Thug to work, which weakens the rest of the deck. At the end of the day if our pile does not work we attempt to pivot to a different wincondition. For instance, I have used flash hulk to grab something like eternal witness and eternal scourge/fauna shaman to assemble food chain.
3 months ago
Fellow karador player here, and I have a couple of suggestions for you. I don't know your budget so I'm just going to chuck things at you and see what sticks.
First off, if you're wanting this to be a true combo deck, then I'd suggest a couple cuts. Craterhoof is a great card, buy combo decks don't really need beatsticks. Hatebears like Thalia, Guardian of Thraben and Grand Abolisher. Also, tutoring for pieces is super valuable early game. Cards like Natural Order, Vampiric Tutor, Eladamri's Call, Diabolic Intent, and Altar of Bone are good tutors for this deck.
Mana dorks are also something to consider. I like them better than mana rocks because you can recur them pretty easily with karador and they're great fodder for Natural Order.
Also check out this hulk line. Hulk into Body Snatcher, viscera seer, and Sylvan Safekeeper -> hulk into Saffi Eriksdotter, Blood Artist, and any other two mana costs you have. Sac saffi, targeting body snatcher, sac snatcher, repeat. A thing to note about this is that body snatcher's ability is an ETB, not a replacement effect, so you can sacrifice it without discaring anything. The effect is still there, but your opponents will be dead to blood artist before they ever resolve. Also, you can protect your combo with your Sylvan Safekeeper right off the bat, which is a huge bonus. If you have a sac outlet on the board already, grab Grand Abolisher instead.
Check out my version of this deck for any other ideas. Have fun!
3 months ago
Well yes, he gives you Mike+Ballista; but he does so much more than that. Assuming you don't have a sac outlet the mike ballista combo is mute.
4 months ago
4 months ago
MxdDrnk75Body Snatcher is what makes the new Protean Hulk unbanning so strong. As you can have hulk hit the graveyard by himself with 0 other cards on the field or in your hand and still pull off the full combo. Phyrexian Delver is a great card and I may pick one up eventually for the deck as general backup.
The rest of the cards you've mentioned are actually just strong Meren cards in general. This deck is about as strong as Meren can get "imo" but when I'm playing with friends or in a LGS I can choose not to just walk over people. It's fun to wood elves a Panharmonicon, then Conjurer's Closet it at end of turn to drop 4 lands in a turn. Selvala, Heart of the Wilds like you said adds very little value to the deck over all. However dropping her early can give you 2 or 3 extra mana if you need it. She may get dropped one day for the Delver above or some other green mana ramp card instead.
Thank you for the good comments man :)
4 months ago
How competitive are you trying to make this? IS this for 1 on 1 play, or group games? What are some of the decks you are facing doing that stop you? I have some suggestions of cards to think about changing, but I don't know if you need them in your deck to fight something in your meta.
Is Selvala, Heart of the Wilds producing in your deck? It doesn't seem like she would be, because you only have 7 creatures with over 3 natural power, so I imagine you are usually netting 2 additional mana from tapping her. With your creature power curve so low I wouldn't think you were drawing off her first ability that often. Try seeing how often people draw from her besides you and how often you tap her for more than 2 extra mana.
Do you mainly Body Snatcher when you are going for the win? Without a way to get it back from exile, are the 1 less CmC and no life loss better than running Phyrexian Delver that you can recur if someone stops your win?