|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|Mirrodin Besieged (MBS)||Rare|
|Mirrodin Besieged: Phyrexia (MBP)||Rare|
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Creature — Horror
Infect (This creature deals damage to creatures in the form of -1/-1 counters and to players in the form of poison counters.)
At the beginning of your upkeep, you get a poison counter.
Phyrexian Vatmother Discussion
2 weeks ago
Hi itachi45 !
First of all, thanks for your comment !
I've always liked Infect but never was a big fan of the usual aggro/combo variant. So i played a Mono Black style since a long time because i love Phyrexian Crusader and think it can be a very efficient win-con in Modern. B/G should be the way to go but i'm pretty sure a Rakdos variant could have decent results : casting Anger of the Gods when you have a Crusader on the board is pretty enjoyable and Blood Moon is still a thing in Modern.
I have only play-tested the deck on MTGO for now and made some choices :
- Plague Stinger eats all the removals of the format and needs a big boost to be efficient ( Lashwrithe , Become Immense ...)
- Still not sure about the non-inclusion of Inkmoth Nexus , but i never missed them. I also want to keep the colorless lands at their minimum because of Anger of the Gods and because i wanna keep two Cathedral of War as they turn Phyrexian Vatmother , Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon and an equipped Phyrexian Crusader into a two turns clock.
- I love Phyrexian Arena and would like it to works, but Night's Whisper comes a turn earlier and it makes a big difference IMO.
I will still give a go to different things on MTGO and refine the deck to try to find the best options ! I usually play another deck in FNM but if my attempts are conclusives i will try it IRL ;)
(Sorry if my english isn't perfect, i'm french^^)
7 months ago
I really like this idea, but it doesn't look like most infect creatures work with Varolz too well. For Varolz to get max value, you want creatures well above the power curve.
8 months ago
A few thoughts to go over!
Ammit Eternal will net you snakes very quickly as your opponents cast spells. If anybody is left open, (Or you use your Whispersilk Cloak/Rogues Passage) you can extend that engine's lifespan.
Skinrender only triggers Hapatra once, but is solid removal.
Flesh-Eater Imp is a solid flying infecter that explodes a win if you have snakes to feed. Phyrexian Crusader, Phyrexian Hydra, Phyrexian Vatmother are cheap solid infect sources too. Grafted Exoskeleton and Glistening Oil turn any of your creatures into surprise infect threats. I know its not budget, but Inkmoth Nexus is going to do a LOT of work for you.
Your land base isn't bad, but could be better in my opinion by focusing harder on Basics. In addition to making you more resilient to non basic hate/punish, two color doesn't get color starved easily. Especially if you to focus on basic ramp like Cultivate, Kodama's Reach, and other similar that search Any Basic Land. Drop the majority of your lands that enter tapped with little to no other benefit. Gaining 1 life or a 0/1 plant aren't going to win you the day, and will often slow your plan painfully. Nykthos is questionable. Being so evenly split in mana costs plus so much of the deck's presence being token based, I wonder how often it will actually run positive on devotion.
1 year ago
(I would add a proper community card but that feature seems to be malfunctioning right now.)
Farly straightforward, this card would mostly be Zedruu the Greathearted (although a different character, not simply her gone evil or something) with a casting cost of and an activation cost of . In EDH, this could lead to some fun usage of cards like the following:
(I realize you can basically already do this with any Grixis commander + e.g. Bazaar Trader, but that's a bit less straightforward.)
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I'm unsure what would be suitable for its upkeep ability. Just copying Zedruu's straight off isn't too inappropriate, as drawing is certainly associated with black and life gain isn't too far out either, but that's kinda boring. Replacing the life gain with something negative towards opponents like milling, discard or plain life loss proportional to the amount of gifted permanent could be one option that's more in line with the color change (thought the negative effects would probably targeted in order to preserve some political potential). Putting a +1/+1 counter per gift on Zedruu the Grixishearted to take advantage of commander damage could also work (especially when combined with auras like Herald of Torment), in which case you could also change power/toughness from the original's 2/4 to 4/2 to signal greater aggression.
For the sake of flavor its subtype would be Horse Djinn, with the artwork depicting a djinn with a mare's head, wearing a mouth-covering veil.
Feedback would be welcome, especially on ways to make Grixis!Zedruu more distinct from the original while still fulfilling the basic function of giving out torturous black cards, in addition to the blue and red ones they both share.
(A version containing green could also be made for the sake of giving that color a chance to show off its painful cards, in which case the creature in question should probably have monkey paws.)
1 year ago
1 year ago
A lot of the creatures with Wither can also be useful. Boggart Ram-Gang comes to mind.
The same goes for Infect. Glistener Elf, Phyrexian Vatmother, Ichorclaw Myr, Inkmoth Nexus, Phyrexian Crusader, Flensermite, and Phyrexian Hydra are probably the ones on-curve. I'd be wary of Infect, though, because it means you're trying to win via both poison counters and regular damage. You could also fall into the trap of being just a really bad Infect deck. Glistening Oil might offset this to some degree, but it's not very good on its own compared to just jamming in more creatures.
1 year ago
@ Funkydiscogod those sound great!!! I probably would keep them in my hand until the board is clear because they both give me poison counters which are doubled by Winding Constrictor cuz Phyrexian Vatmother would kill me in a couple turns
1 year ago
Phyrexian Vatmother occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%