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|Mirrodin Besieged: Phyrexia (MBP)||Rare|
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Creature — Horror
Infect (This creature deals damage to creatures in the form of -1/-1 counters and to players in the form of poison counters.)
At the beginning of your upkeep, you get a poison counter.
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Phyrexian Vatmother Discussion
2 months ago
(I would add a proper community card but that feature seems to be malfunctioning right now.)
Farly straightforward, this card would mostly be Zedruu the Greathearted (although a different character, not simply her gone evil or something) with a casting cost of and an activation cost of . In EDH, this could lead to some fun usage of cards like the following:
(I realize you can basically already do this with any Grixis commander + e.g. Bazaar Trader, but that's a bit less straightforward.)
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I'm unsure what would be suitable for its upkeep ability. Just copying Zedruu's straight off isn't too inappropriate, as drawing is certainly associated with black and life gain isn't too far out either, but that's kinda boring. Replacing the life gain with something negative towards opponents like milling, discard or plain life loss proportional to the amount of gifted permanent could be one option that's more in line with the color change (thought the negative effects would probably targeted in order to preserve some political potential). Putting a +1/+1 counter per gift on Zedruu the Grixishearted to take advantage of commander damage could also work (especially when combined with auras like Herald of Torment), in which case you could also change power/toughness from the original's 2/4 to 4/2 to signal greater aggression.
For the sake of flavor its subtype would be Horse Djinn, with the artwork depicting a djinn with a mare's head, wearing a mouth-covering veil.
Feedback would be welcome, especially on ways to make Grixis!Zedruu more distinct from the original while still fulfilling the basic function of giving out torturous black cards, in addition to the blue and red ones they both share.
(A version containing green could also be made for the sake of giving that color a chance to show off its painful cards, in which case the creature in question should probably have monkey paws.)
5 months ago
9 months ago
A lot of the creatures with Wither can also be useful. Boggart Ram-Gang comes to mind.
The same goes for Infect. Glistener Elf, Phyrexian Vatmother, Ichorclaw Myr, Inkmoth Nexus, Phyrexian Crusader, Flensermite, and Phyrexian Hydra are probably the ones on-curve. I'd be wary of Infect, though, because it means you're trying to win via both poison counters and regular damage. You could also fall into the trap of being just a really bad Infect deck. Glistening Oil might offset this to some degree, but it's not very good on its own compared to just jamming in more creatures.
9 months ago
@ Funkydiscogod those sound great!!! I probably would keep them in my hand until the board is clear because they both give me poison counters which are doubled by Winding Constrictor cuz Phyrexian Vatmother would kill me in a couple turns
9 months ago
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11 months ago
No Phyrexian Vatmother? Her drawback is easily worth her 4/5 body.
11 months ago
Herald of Leshrac is heavy on mana but is some super-secret tech that dunks on midrange and control decks. Grave Titan is also above the curve you were asking for, but it's worth mentioning because of how powerful it is.
The other thing to think about are the larger infect creatures, which are Phyrexian Crusader, Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon, Phyrexian Juggernaut, and Phyrexian Vatmother. You lose the ability to win via normal damage and life loss, but you gain creatures that are really efficient for their mana cost.
Distended Mindbender and Abundant Maw are also reasonable when combined with things like Solemn Simulacrum. Speaking of Eldrazi, don't forget the plethora of colorless creatures that you can jam into your mono-black deck. That includes stuff like Wurmcoil Engine, Duplicant, Grid Monitor, Silent Arbiter, Scuttling Doom Engine, and Steel Hellkite.