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Leyline of Anticipation
If Leyline of Anticipation is in your opening hand, you may begin the game with it on the battlefield.
You may cast nonland cards as though they had flash. (You may cast them at any time you could cast an instant.)
1 month ago
1 month ago
I'm afraid there are many issues here even if you control something like Leyline of Anticipation.
You can't reanimate a creature under an opponent's control with Animate Dead.
If your opponent cast Gather Specimens that turn, the Worldgorger Dragon reanimated with your Animate Dead would enter under their control and they'd be obliged to exile their other permanents, but they don't control Animate Dead so it wouldn't be exiled.
So unless your opponent both owns and controls the Animate Dead, the combo doesn't work. But also, as long as your opponent owns and controls the Animate Dead, they always get the choice of which card in a graveyard that it enters the battlefield enchanting. As long as there's at least one other creature card in a graveyard, they'll have the option to not loop Worldgorger.
Worldgorger returns the exiled permanents to the battlefield under their owner's control. As long as you own Bronze Bombshell, it'll return to the battlefield under you control and not trigger again. Unless that opponent cast Gather Specimens again.
The controller of a permanent is the controller of its triggered abilities on the stack. As long as your opponent controls all triggers being put onto the stack simultaneously, they get to choose the order they enter the stack, and so could sacrifice Bronze Bombshell before exiling it to Worldgorger trigger. (I'd actually like somebody else to confirm whether this part is true; do state-based triggers of permanents you control that enter the battlefield at the same time as another permanent with an ETB trigger both trigger at the same time? I think so but am not 100%.)
Finally, Bronze Bombshell will only deal damage to its controller if it is sacrificed. If it's exiled and returned to the battlefield in response to its trigger, it'll trigger again and eventually sacrifice when you stop exiling it, but all the other Bombshell triggers will resolve to do nothing since its controller can't sacrifice the source of that ability.
1 month ago
So you want to put Bronze Bombshell with The Beamtown Bullies under a opponents control, so he has to sacrific it and becomes 7 damage? Then you want to flicker The Beamtown Bullies with Worldgorger Dragon+Animate Dead to do it over and over again?
So the biggest problem here is, that you can´t cast Animate Dead on youre opponents turn, unless you give it flash somehow. Otherwise there is no chance to put Worldgorger Dragon into play at your opponents turn with those cards.
So you would need something like Leyline of Anticipation.
With something like this, it should work, but i don´t know any card like this in youre commander identity.
1 month ago
The other approach is to win with combos or alternate win cons. A favorite combo is Sanguine Bond/Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose + Exquisite Blood to drain everyone's life totals. A second way is to flash out Test of Endurance or Felidar Sovereign on your opponents' end step with Leyline of Anticipation or Vedalken Orrery and win with an alternate win con. A third way is to cast and quickly re-draw into Approach of the Second Sun and win that way. Along the way you can hold up mana for counterspells to protect your win cons from disruption.
Of course, these approaches can be combined as well! It's just about getting the right shell, finding which win con approach wins for you, and building your deck with that in mind. If you want to connect with some other veteran Oloro players, ladypickleton has been playing for some time, could definitely give you some advice, and you can check out their decklist here- Life: Gains & Pains. You could also reference one of the top primers on Oloro over the years on tappedout here- The Immortal King: The Fable of Oloro [cEDH]. This primer is more geared towards cEDH and a higher budget, but it hasn't always been that way, and it is a great guide that should help out as well.
1 month ago
Hi ladypickleton! This looks like fun! Oloro is what drew me into commander, and I always envisioned myself building him, though strangely I never did! Since you're running Sanguine Bond and Exquisite Blood I am guessing you aren't averse to combos. I know you've run this for awhile, so maybe you tried flashing out Test of Endurance or Felidar Guardian with Leyline of Anticipation, Vedalken Orrery, or, in the latter case, Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir. I always thought that would be a fun alternative win con. I'd also think that Propaganda and Norn's Annex could be good complements to Crawlspace and Ghostly Prison if you need more pillowfort elements. Beyond that Teferi's Ageless Insight and Alhammarret's Archive can be good draw more pieces, and Sigarda's Splendor and Cosmos Elixir, while pricey in mana, can be great draw engines in a lifegain deck.
1 month ago
Balaam__ Indeed! Bender is my spiritual cousin. A nickname I picked up upon learning Bender's full name eventually became my internet nom de plume. I think you're the first person to have picked up on it without me first mentioning Futurama. Well done!
You would need some way to flash Celebration for it to win on the turn it's played of course. If you're Simic you've got access to Leyline of Anticipation, or Tidal Barracuda as a budget-friendly option. Probably other options I'm not thinking of offhand. The Elocutors will probably need to have spent 2 prior turns out though, I don't think it would work to flash Celebration during upkeep unless they started a turn with the correct filibuster counter on it already. Maybe I'm wrong since it's a "Do this. Then do this" wording. That'd be a neat trick if they could win on their first upkeep. You could even flash them in during opponents end step and they'd never even have a chance to respond before the game was over
All this is moot of course if you're not gonna be in . I briefly ran Elocutors in my Phelddagrif commender deck, but I doubt any multiplayer game has ever been decided with their win-con. I remember thinking when I took them out that they can probably only really be effective in a deck built specifically for them, as you've made here!
2 months ago
I'd also add that you have great artifact and enchantment-based removal like Darksteel Mutation and Imprisoned in the Moon. I've found this super powerful in my Tuvasa enchantress deck, and prefer it to spell removal in the case of all but the most efficient cards (such as Swords to Plowshares and Path to Exile). These are especially good when you can use them at instant speed, which you can here with Leyline of Anticipation and Vedalken Orrery. One that I'd recommend that works even without these out is Stasis Snare, as you can flash it out at instant speed. I'd also add Coastal Piracy as a replacement for one of your less impactful draw spells. I'd personally replace Windfall unless you are running it to disrupt your opponents' tutoring, in which case it makes sense to keep it in. If you are just using it as a draw spell though, something like Piracy would be a good replacement.
This looks like a great deck and I look forward to hearing how you destroy your opponents with it!
2 months ago
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Shield counters are neat, could maybe see them on black too since they're pretty similar to regenerate
Like that Maestros is leaning into spell sling with saccing rather than Grixis' (the Alara shard) reanimation
Mestros Diabolist: how is this not a Warlock?
Evelyn: Don't have to cast collected cards on just your own turn, so e.g. Leyline of Anticipation can provide quite a lot of value here. Can't think of a lot of ways to make a lot of vamps in grixis tho.
Maestros Initiate: neat common design, 3 power makes it fine casualty fodder
Professional Face-Breaker: treasure-on-damage has always felt like a strongly red mechanic to me (shaking my fist at Malcolm and Grim Hireling), so I'm glad the color if finally getting the more go-wide-friendly version of this effect. Built-in evasion AND impulsive draw makes this solid.
Kros: sketching out a deck, lets see how it goes: Kros, Defense Contractor. A bit sad that Curse of Predation doesn't work as well as it could since the goad will run out before the enemy creature has a chance to attack again.
Phabine: dunno why it's so conservatively costed, especially when parley has the downside of giving people cards