Hedron Crab

Creature — Crab

Landfall — Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control, target player puts the top three cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard.

Discussion (49)

Crow-Umbra on To Drown the World in Death: Araumi EDH [PRIMER]

1 month ago

I've enjoyed keeping an eye on your primer as it has evolved in the past couple weeks. Maybe I missed it before you archived the comment, but I was wondering why you sidelined Hedron Crab?

ConsumingKiribo on Mindwrack harpy's wrath

1 month ago

inker6405 Great! Well, I have a couple of suggestions if you want a mill deck:

Mindwrack Harpy isn't the best. Reducing it to 2 or 3 copies is a bit better as you want it later in the game but you'll still be happy getting it when you need it. Instead, Ruin Crab or Hedron Crab is a much better idea as you can trigger it multiple times through fetchlands, such as Bad River, Evolving Wilds, Fabled Passage, or Polluted Delta if you got the money.

Glimpse the Unthinkable. 10 cards for 2 mana is a great deal. You can't get that kind of value anywhere else.

Maddening Cacophony adds flexibility. Add Fraying Sanity to increase effectiveness, though if games are going a bit faster than you think, Traumatize.

Next, some cards that fit your description found on gatherer. For a full comprehensive list, here's a large link: gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?action=advanced&text=|[%22mill%20one%20or%20more%20cards%22]|[%22card%20is%20put%20into%20an%20opponent%27s%20graveyard%20from%20anywhere%22] But here are my (budget) recommendations:

Duskmantle Guildmage is good in a mill deck as it helps your opponent lose life more and more easily as an alternate win condition.

Profane Memento is worth sideboarding if you absolutely eat it in the 4rth turn because your opponent was playing burn.

Finally, the best non-budget recommendation that pulls everything together would be a great addition to the deck (the deck is 15 bucks, you can relatively keep this deck at like 30, 40 bucks by adding 1 or 2 of this card)

Bloodchief Ascension. This can be your win con. This deck isn't getting anywhere however unless you'll drop 80 bucks on this card. But the number of cards that are unblockable pull this card together, this entire deck together, yeah you'll stall for 2 or 3 turns, and the deck will only work if this is your first card, but if you are going to break the restrictions and make your budget go wack, this is the card that pulls everything together. All you have to do is drop Swimmer in Nightmares and a Sol Ring since you have no Ashiok, and Sol Ring is restricted in every format it isn't banned in.

Sorry, but you're going to have to drop the Sol Ring.

Next, some useless cards in the deck are:

Boot Nipper, it doesn't do anything except being defensive. You aren't going to need it. You have Murder if the opponent has a really big and intimidating creature well, you can just kill it.

Departed Deckhand, Farbog Revenant it does nothing in this deck. You're attacking your opponent's deck, not their life, so focusing on that contributes nothing and wastes resources for precious deck space for better cards.

Filigree Familiar. Honestly, Divination is better. ANYTHING is better. Visions of Beyond is also a suggestion for mill decks.

Kjeldoran Dead. This does nothing. You'll pass someone's attacks anyway because the average game plays out for 6.5 turns. You'll have enough time to play out your strategy. No one is getting out Emrakul, the Promised End. In fact, not many will actually win by getting out some really big creature. Some will create a value engine, others will spam tokens, or just put pressure on you, in which they've already won once they got their win-con out. A chump blocker isn't going to do anything in this format, but it can do something in commander. This isn't commander.

Lurking Deadeye. How are you going to deal damage in the first place? 2 murders are more mana efficient.

Wall of Frost. A better option for this is Wall of Lost Thoughts.

Swimmer in Nightmares, you need an Ashiok Planeswalker. You have more than enough space for Ashiok, Dream Render as some decks focus on resurrecting the dead. However, this might conflict with what you're going for, but it's a recommendation. (Cling to Dust can do it as well if you come across Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath, which hasn't eaten a ban in ANY eternal formats. Not even in Brawl).

tl;dr Again, a lot of cards in here either do nothing or almost do nothing, and without Bloodchief Ascension this deck isn't going to be good. It's a mill deck, but a mill deck isn't good without mill cards. And when only a sixth of the deck is mill cards, that isn't good.

If you're ever confused about deck building, Here's a tip: 25 lands, 20 synergistic (cards that count towards winning) cards, 15 cards that let you do things, draw more cards, destroy inconvenient creatures, or counter Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath. Or Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre, and/or the rest of the Eldrazi titans that haven't eaten a ban.

And also ditch one of your Sol Rings, again they are restricted in vintage and banned in every format that isn't commander.

keksoe666 on Mill Modern V2

1 month ago

This is an interesting list although I personally would suggest a few changes: Since you're running a playset of Hedron Crab I would suggest playing fetches, even cheap fetches such as Evolving Wilds andTerramorphic Expanse would be additions your deck could greatly benefit from due to the double Landfall-triggers and the way you'd thin out your deck (also, since your running the crabs I would suggest playing more lands in general, about 24 or so) Keening Stone and Traumatize are two other cards I would suggest replacing, if possible with Fraying Sanity and Archive Trap. Both would be cheaper, faster and over-all more efficient, I think. I'm also not too sure about the Nemesis of Reason... I think it might be too expensive and too easily removed I'm quite conflicted about Mind Sculpt and Tome Scour... I don't really think they work as well as they might seem in Modern, compare it to burn: if you're playing mill you have an enemy reserve of 60 to deal with, rather than 20 and while taking 5 cards out of a deck for 1 Mana might seem a lot, I don't think it really does much since you only hit once and that's that, once once scour has been used it's empty. I would suggest replacing them with permanents such as Curse of the Bloody Tome, Sphinx's Tutelage or, heck Jace's Erasure. That way you would only pay once and still mill every round.

Queen_Lulu on Trouble at the Old Mill!

1 month ago

Nice mill build! It looks very effective, and the only thing I think might make this deck better is Hedron Crab. Replace Merfolk Secretkeeper with it, and run more fetch lands to trigger it as well as the Ruin Crab you're already running, and I think you'll get a lot more mileage. But once again, very nice mill build!

Orange+ on Patron [Budget semi-cEDH Primer]

2 months ago

So just to clarify, the wincondition in this deck is mill, right?

From what I can understand, you want to tutor for Altar of the Brood or Hedron Crab, and then try to go infinite / near infinite on land drops by returning them to your hand and replaying them. Is this assesment correct?

Could be interesting to have some information about synergies and wincons in the description, and assuming this is a cEDH combo deck, how fast and how reliable the combo is.

And what happens if both Altar of the Brood and Hedron Crab goes to the graveyard? Do you then have to rely on getting infinite / near infinite mana and winning with Blue Sun's Zenith and instant card recursion?

Anyways, cool deck, upvote from me :)

HalbrechtHalbrecht on bruvac

2 months ago

Have you considered Helm of the Host? A little slow starting, but sure turns into a crazy snowball effect!

Also, I know you're focusing on the Petitioners, but I personally feel Hedron Crab and his buddy Ruin Crab belong in all mill decks. :)

Perhaps Ipnu Rivulet for just that little extra mill and something to do if you get flooded?

Love mill +1

HalbrechtHalbrecht on Mill the Universe EDH

2 months ago

Some suggestions: Spark Double, Helm of the Host, Hedron Crab and his pal Ruin Crab

Love mill! +1

HalbrechtHalbrecht on Petitioners

2 months ago

Have you considered Helm of the Host? A little slower than Spark Double, but harder to deal with once you get a couple copies out there. They then have to remove all copies of Bruvac at once, or you can just re-equip and keep generating!

Also, I know you're focusing on the Petitioners as your main creature and mill strategy, but I personally believe Hedron Crab and now Ruin Crab belong in every mill deck!

Love the deck! +1