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Creature — Specter
Whenever Hypnotic Specter deals damage to an opponent, that player discards a card at random.
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Hypnotic Specter Discussion
4 weeks ago
Hey, very nice budget Commander deck.
Consider a few other creatures who can make your opponent discard a card? Using creatures who do this puts more pressure on your opponents.
Cards to consider cutting:
- Gift of Paradise
- Deadbridge Shaman
- Greenwheel Liberator
- Llanowar Mentor
For the manabase consider:
Good luck with your deck.
1 month ago
Hypnotic Specter is an oldie but a goodie. I'd also recommend cutting the Elixir of Immortalitys. The only time games ever go late enough to be concerned about naturally running out of cards is hard control vs hard control, and even then the game usually closes out before someone runs out of cards. You're playing an aggressive deck with no card draw - there's little to no reason to play them unless there's a bunch of mill players in your group.
1 month ago
If your meta has too much card draw try Black Vise. Its hilarious if you get if on turn one.
2 months ago
Yeah Dreamstealer is kind of bad.
I mean, Hypnotic Specter is even iffy but it serves its purpose.
Nyxathid is better than Dreamstealer.
2 months ago
You could try Hypnotic Specter over Liliana's Specter for the random discard effect. Funeral Charm is also decent since it can make your opponent discard on their draw step and kill mana dorks and Delver and Bob. Have uou tried using Quest for the Nihil Stone instead of Liliana's Caress?
2 months ago
np, glad to help :) Since you did decide to go with that route, I strongly suggest adding Wrench Mind (probably in place of Brain Pry) and a couple Raven's Crime to your deck. Wrench Mind is often a two-for-one and is likely the best way to get the opponent's hand empty quickly in modern (plus it puts 2 counters on the Quest in one go), and Raven's Crime is a great way to turn dead lands in the late game into more discard or use your lands if you flood out. Also, you might want to consider playing Hypnotic Specter over Shimian Specter for the random discard effect, which is REALLY strong. It costs less and triggers the Quest too.
2 months ago
Couple of notes up front (might just be due to ongoing edits):
- You have 2 copies of Victory Chimes in the list
- You only have 96 cards in the list (including the duplicate above) instead of 100
Want to suggest a couple of deck strategies to consider focusing in on (they are all fairly synergistic but it might help to pick one to focus on to help the deck feel like it has a clearer win condition):
With your current list of mill-value and beats, the missing pieces only seem to be ways to close the game.
- Keening Stone to close out a player with mill
- Necrotic Ooze to take advantage of any opponents' powerful abilities
- Consuming Aberration and Lord of Extinction seem quite good
- Psychosis Crawler takes advantage of the multiple windfall effects you are running but otherwise isn't too synergistic
- Splinterfright is a cheaper Lhurgoyf with better keywording and a synergistic 'tax' that works in your favor. Terravore might be worth considering too.
Discard Group Slug
I think this is a really interesting avenue for Muldrotha: running cards like Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur, Waste Not, Oppression, Mindslicer and Myojin of Night's Reach to clear out your own and opponents' hands while benefiting from Muldrotha and other graveyard recursion effects to allow yourself to keep making plays. It would be a deck unlike any other at our table so far.
Other solid cards that support this archetype:
- Scythe Specter, Hypnotic Specter, Liliana's Specter
- Cabal Conditioning
- Words of Waste
- Necrogen Mists
- Bloodhusk Ritualist
- Bottomless Pit
- Sword of Feast and Famine (yeah, expensive though)
- Painful Quandary
- Archfiend of Ifnir
Graveyard Theft or Pure Recursion
This concept would run recursion spells like Boneyard Parley to steal the best things from opponents graveyards. In this case, Muldrotha allows us to consistently run targeted recursion from our graveyard, and we can focus our deck construction on the grave-robbing package. Because of Muldrotha's ability, we want to focus primarily on "theft on sticks" which we can repeatedly cast as needed, likely leaning heavily into Black.
Theft on Sticks examples
- Chainer, Dementia Master
- Dance of the Dead
- Scion of Darkness
- Chancellor of the Spires can both jump-start your mill value and borrow a winner from someone's yard. Sam has one.
3 months ago
Mass bounce isn't really something I'm interested in.
I feel Grave Betrayal is on about the same level as Prince of Thralls. While they can get it back it comes at a cost, one that they can't pay forever. Although, Grave Betrayal isn't as weak to removal. Thrilling Encore is good, it's in another of the decks I've built. Totally forgot about it when it came to this deck though.
You underestimate Dragon Tempest, I don't need more dragons/fliers. The way the wording works makes it so Nicol Bolas does the ETB damage, making someone discard their hand. Bolas then also has the benefits of haste.
Thanks for the suggestions.