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Creature — Specter
Whenever Hypnotic Specter deals damage to an opponent, that player discards a card at random.
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Hypnotic Specter Discussion
1 week ago
Couple of notes up front (might just be due to ongoing edits):
- You have 2 copies of Victory Chimes in the list
- You only have 96 cards in the list (including the duplicate above) instead of 100
Want to suggest a couple of deck strategies to consider focusing in on (they are all fairly synergistic but it might help to pick one to focus on to help the deck feel like it has a clearer win condition):
With your current list of mill-value and beats, the missing pieces only seem to be ways to close the game.
- Keening Stone to close out a player with mill
- Necrotic Ooze to take advantage of any opponents' powerful abilities
- Consuming Aberration and Lord of Extinction seem quite good
- Psychosis Crawler takes advantage of the multiple windfall effects you are running but otherwise isn't too synergistic
- Splinterfright is a cheaper Lhurgoyf with better keywording and a synergistic 'tax' that works in your favor. Terravore might be worth considering too.
Discard Group Slug
I think this is a really interesting avenue for Muldrotha: running cards like Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur, Waste Not, Oppression, Mindslicer and Myojin of Night's Reach to clear out your own and opponents' hands while benefiting from Muldrotha and other graveyard recursion effects to allow yourself to keep making plays. It would be a deck unlike any other at our table so far.
Other solid cards that support this archetype:
- Scythe Specter, Hypnotic Specter, Liliana's Specter
- Cabal Conditioning
- Words of Waste
- Necrogen Mists
- Bloodhusk Ritualist
- Bottomless Pit
- Sword of Feast and Famine (yeah, expensive though)
- Painful Quandary
- Archfiend of Ifnir
Graveyard Theft or Pure Recursion
This concept would run recursion spells like Boneyard Parley to steal the best things from opponents graveyards. In this case, Muldrotha allows us to consistently run targeted recursion from our graveyard, and we can focus our deck construction on the grave-robbing package. Because of Muldrotha's ability, we want to focus primarily on "theft on sticks" which we can repeatedly cast as needed, likely leaning heavily into Black.
Theft on Sticks examples
- Chainer, Dementia Master
- Dance of the Dead
- Scion of Darkness
- Chancellor of the Spires can both jump-start your mill value and borrow a winner from someone's yard. Sam has one.
3 weeks ago
Mass bounce isn't really something I'm interested in.
I feel Grave Betrayal is on about the same level as Prince of Thralls. While they can get it back it comes at a cost, one that they can't pay forever. Although, Grave Betrayal isn't as weak to removal. Thrilling Encore is good, it's in another of the decks I've built. Totally forgot about it when it came to this deck though.
You underestimate Dragon Tempest, I don't need more dragons/fliers. The way the wording works makes it so Nicol Bolas does the ETB damage, making someone discard their hand. Bolas then also has the benefits of haste.
Thanks for the suggestions.
3 weeks ago
Have you considered Nicol Bolas, the Ravager Flip as the commander? You could probably cast him multiple times in a game compared to the original Bolas, which means multiple discards for each opponent. Reforge the Soul could be another good wheel spell for that purpose.
Phyrexian Arena could be good for more card draw.
Don't think you have enough fliers or Dragons to benefit from Dragon Tempest.
1 month ago
alright so here goes, so the cards to the left can be swapped with the ones to the right, it has the same or very similair effect but for a reduced mana cost etc.
the next ones are cards i think you should strip, i will list them and then explain why:
Ruin Rat : you already have a few of these, and this isnt even a zombie. there are just better cards out there that arent expensive at all, (i'll give some suggestions further down the post)
Shambling Attendants : Just strictly bad, you dont want to play a 3/5 dude for 8 mana ever.
Cruel Feeding : its just pretty bad, the strive cost is very expensive just to +1/0 lifelink. dont use this unless you had something specific in mind that i didnt catch up on reading the list.
Duress and Divest : these never really do much, yes you get to pick away 1 card and see 1 hand but you will almost never hit anything especially good, only run this if you are planning to do a lot of 1v1 EDH.
Here are some suggestions of cards that are very cheap and are pretty good:
1 month ago
Haha, I actually meant to mention Oloro to you as he seemed like something I thought you would like, I just forgot to. This will be a super slow, grindy deck. Many people will not enjoy playing against it. I'd love it, but it will be difficult to make friends as a newer player. :p
Cards like Caress and Megrim really require you to have ways to refill your opponents hand. Cards like, but not limited to Font of Mythos and Dictate of Kruphix will be your friend here. Also, look for as many recurring discard effects as you can. Look for creatures, enchantments, artifacts, and planeswalkers if at all possible. I recommend some of these:
Ramp is also important look for mana rocks such as Mana Vault or Thran Dynamo. Ramp on creatures can also be awesome. Talking about Nirkana Revenant and Crypt Ghast. Both of which combo exceedingly well with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth.
1 month ago
is it just a preference thing with having Raven's Crime over Inquisition of Kozilek in the deck? you already have non-targeted discard in the form of Necrogen Mists and Hypnotic Specter. wouldn't iok be a little more helpful? also, are the Drown in Sorrow for the scry ability? personally Flaying Tendrils just seems better. takes care of Bloodghast, Kitchen Finks and the like but, definitely screws your Geralf's Messenger. so i can see why sorrow over tendrils in that case. anyhow, thanks for commenting on my deck. hope you're doing well and having good games. take care.
1 month ago
Played with this deck against my friend's aggro burn deck. I had to side board in the Drown in Sorrow and sub out the Necrogen Mists. Needed the speed and to take care of the early attackers. he was fast enough to get his early spells out before i was able to empty his hand with Raven's Crime and Thoughtseize. Before I had the Thoughtseize i was able to cast Waste Not. Which gave me card advantage to pull lands, 2 Hypnotic Specter, Nezumi Shortfang for damage and hand control. I won with 10 life to spare. So in the end he top decked badly and I walked away without having to use the Drown in Sorrows.
1 month ago
More changes! More colorless creatures to windmill slam for free. Also, more direct damage to keep Rakdos leading the team to victory!
- Viashino Heretic -> Scuttling Doom Engine
- Hypnotic Specter -> Sandstone Oracle
- Thoughtseize -> Fanatical Firebrand
The loss of disruption against control players sucks a bit. These changes (and other recent changes) make the deck more consistent. I'll revisit anti-control tactics after I see how these changes turn out.