Ichor Rats

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Ichor Rats

Creature — Phyrexian Rat

Infect (This creature deals damage to creature in the form of -1/-1 counters and to players in the form of poison counters.)

When Ichor Rats enters the battlefield, each player gets a poison counter.

UltimateRoxas40 on The Song of Phyresis

5 months ago

Glad you liked it. Glory to Phyrexia!

I still need to get a copy myself. I'll be swapping it in for Brimaz, Blight of Oreskos. I originally liked the extra proliferate, but it never did enough when I played it, and the incubate tokens are pretty underwhelming. I also originally thought his ability triggered on all artifact spells, not just artifact creatures. Reading the card explains the card I guess haha.

Have you thought about Roaming Throne? I know your deck doesn't have an abundance of creatures, but since everything is Phyrexian, you could double up on the triggers on creatures like Bloated Contaminator, Ichor Rats, and even Atraxa, Praetors' Voice. Cut the turn count in half if everyone is infected.

HydraVulgaris on Yawgmoth - mk_II (New Phyrexia)

9 months ago

Man..... (or Woman). With Myself being a fellow Yawgers pilot since The Father of Machines released 4Years ago, I Also have two Yawgmoth decks!!! However, I OnNLY own two EDH decks in total, both VERY Competitive. (not a Flex, giving background) Playing with Yawg for the last 4 years, while playing Exclusively in Mono Black for the last 9 years, One Gathers a lot A LOT of information in lore, in rule changes, in how Yawgmoth interacts with other creatures and abilities, etc. My Heart filled with Ichor an Love just gotta correct a few things................ Phyrexia (new or old in reference) was originally an unnamed plane created by an ancient evil planeswalker. Little is known of him, aside from the fact that he was a humanoid that preferred to assume the form of a dragon: he died just a month before Yawgmoth was transported to Phyrexia. That’s just from the wiki but is true if you’ve read the Books, secondly Purely from Experience, cramming more infect creatures in there isn’t redundant and really REALLY hurts the mana-curve of said build. the Current state of Personal List Only Runs 1.... Ichor Rats being that One creature innately with infect in the build, I'm Never use it to attack unless absolutely opportune. The Strength of Ichor rats is in its ETB, giving everyone a Poison counter! That Power in its ETB is that with NO NONE NADA Combat damage the funky rats essentially speeds your board Progression and Line(s) of play by THREE FREAKIN’ TURNS!!! Aside from the Rats being an “Infector” strictly run Infectious Inquiry Phyresis Outbreak Tainted Strike and Vraska's Fall. at the core of the card Yawgmoth Is the Best Mono-{B} Aristocrat commander they ever designed! Highly recommend Playing into Yawgs natural way of play including an ESPECIALLY abuse Our Fathers printed abilities... Even the first line of text,Makes an incredible blocker against the certain noted types. Late Game Proliferation sounds mediocre when you can proliferate for the Win in a single turn EARLY! don’t NOT use or abuse what the Ineffable One, that’s just asking for mid to late game where Yawg-Diddly really can’t hang.. hope this didn’t come off sometime of way, Id love to share more

legendofa on infinite rats

1 year ago

Pulling from my own Rat tribal deck (Modern-ish casual, not EDH):

Karumonix, the Rat King gives you an out against lifegain-heavy decks. I don't recommend going deeper than that with poison (i.e. don't add Ichor Rats or Septic Rats), but Karumonix adds a layer to your attacks and keeps rats coming.

I haven't gotten Ashcoat of the Shadow Swarm yet, but I want to. It looks amazing. If your budget can handle it, I'm recommending it just in theoretical grounds.

I personally am not impressed with Swarm of Rats (Rat Colony is pretty much all-around better) and Pestilence Rats, but they might work better in EDH, where you always have access to a fear-granting effect. How have they worked for you?

Ratcatcher is a free tutor for a rat every turn. Highly recommended.

Memoricide is a little odd, since it can only hit one card that isn't in play. Is this a meta choice? Do you have a specific target for it that you know you'll see?

Unless you see a bunch of Voltron, Battlecruiser, or other decks with one big creature, I would diversify the removal a little bit. You have a lot of single-target creature removal. I'm a big fan of discard, so I'm recommending based on what I like at this point. Cabal Therapist, Mind Slash, and Sadistic Hypnotist turn your rats into hand removal. Feed the Swarm offers enchantment removal with a very evocative name for this deck. Try some of these in place of Cast Down or Ultimate Price or something. Also, Despise isn't great if you're just fishing. If you want a T1 discard effect, Thoughtseize is best, Inquisition of Kozilek and Blackmail are solid, and Dread Fugue is pretty good.

Following up on that, I see a good set of mass removal and graveyard recursion, and Marrow-Gnawer lets you rebuild quickly. This part looks solid.

AlexValravn on Atraxa, Great Toxic Proliferator

1 year ago

Thanks for your comment Ferrahk, maybe I should edit the description because now I am reading it maybe it is confusing. Far Traveler is in the deck to blink Vishgraz, the Doomhive or Ichor Rats, to protect another creature after attack thanks to the ability of Saryth, the Viper's Fang, and because it is an enchantment so you would have more options to draw when Atraxa ETB. I tried to have almost 10 cards of each type to help with the draw trigger but maybe is one of the easy cuts for one of the Maybeboard. Thanks for the question though.

Mortlocke on The Song of Phyresis

1 year ago

Vlasiax,

Thanks for posting! ONE is definitely going to shake this deck up considerably in that I absolutely plan to incorporate some of the spells that give opponents Poison counters - without targeting them, no less. I have a number of changes already planned and would love to hear your thoughts as I'm honestly having a bit of a tough time speculating on what to cut to make room. So far, here are my planned changes

  • Ixhel, Descendent of Atraxa for Hand of the Praetors: Given that Infect will be less dominant of a mechanic among creatures in this deck cutting Hand of the Praetors seems logical. Besides, with the host of cards that allow me to place poison counters directly on opponents, Hand of the Praetors seems even less relevant.

  • Skrelv, Defector Mite for Viridian Corrupter: Skrlev provides so many benefits being a psudo Mother of Runes that also grants Toxic and evasion. Viridian Corrupter's ETB effect is far too narrow for my liking, and only amounts to just a 2/2 with Infect. Toxic creatures such as Skrlev boast so many "goodstuff" effects that it's a no brainer why Corrupter has to be cut.

  • Myr Convert for Grateful Apparition: Apparition has long been on the replacement list as it's a non-phyrexian. Myr Convert is a perfect replacement as it's another mana dork that can put poison counters on players. Losing a proliferation source is a loss, but given the horde of new Toxic creatures that proliferate off of one trigger or another, this overall is a net gain.

  • Bloated Contaminator for Priests of Norn: Bloated Contaminator is actually my dream creature for the set. Evasion, Poison and Proliferate on a great body is just a dream come true. My only hope is that there is another creature just like it in March of the Machines. Priests of Norn is an okay creature for the most part but doesn't amount to much beyond just being a 1/4 infect creature.

  • White Sun's Twilight for Winds of Abandon: I've always been somewhat disappointed with Winds of Abandon as it more likely than not can ramp my opponent far beyond my ability to stop them. Sure, a horde of tokens can be wiped out - but at what cost? White Sun's Twilight isn't exactly a one sided boardwipe, but it can get me a bunch of 1/1 creatures that put Poison counters on players on top of slowing them down.

  • Vraska, Betrayal's Sting for Sheoldred, Whispering One: Obviously i'm happy to see Phyrexian themed planeswalkers and I'm overjoyed to see another Planeswalker with a focus on Poison counters. Swapping Vraska in for Sheoldred is both a mechanics and a flavor win - Sheoldred turned her back on Elesh Norn to pursue her own misguided and selfish desires along with the heretic Urbrask.

  • Tyrranax Rex for Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger: I've enjoyed the Soft lock VoH places on the board just by virtue of being there alone, but I've felt that his control never really synchronized with the rest of the deck. Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider compliments the deck directly and is a huge flavor win. Tyrranax Rex just seems like the perfect upgrade as it is CMC cheaper, has almost as many keywords as Questing Beast and places multiple Poison counters on an opponent when it hits. Rex in my eyes is a "backup" Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon in terms of power level and "feel".

  • Phyresis Outbreak for Toxic Deluge: Phyresis Outbreak is the mass removal I've always wished for and is a direct upgrade to Deluge - within the context of this deck that is. This card is absolutely a must include.

  • The Seedcore for Swamp: The Seedcore gives me Sliver Hive vibes, but having a card that fixes my mana in a 4 color deck and is a flavor win just seems like a no-brainer.

  • Venerated Rotpriest for Glistener Elf: Venerated Rotpriest is just a deterrent as this deck has very few spells that I would consider worthwhile for targeting my own creatures. Glistener Elf is an okay card but within the context of EDH it's "meh". Late game it hardly makes an impact without a horde of +1/+1 counters and some form of evasion.

  • Contaminant Grafter for Blight Mamba: Containment Grafter feels like a great card that can help reinforce a boardstate and put additional pressure on opponents mid to late game. Early game it would essentially help me run away with the game through conditional ramp and card advantage. Blight Mamba has honestly never done much for me and generally is as impactful as Glistener Elf.

Now comes the list of cards I think are at least worth considering (that I may or may not include) but don't exactly know what to cut to make room for:

  • Staff of Compleation: This is a big flashy card that caught my attention given the myriad of things it can do. However without the right combo piece this card could end up doing me more harm than good.

  • Glistening Sphere: There are very few drop mana rocks that are worthwhile, but this one definitely caught my eye. I'm not sure if it's any better than Astral Cornucopia though, as i've been ramped into the stratosphere with just a few proliferation triggers. Not to mention it only gets better just by having Atraxa on the field. I really want to like this card, but it doesn't seem to make the cut. If only it were

  • Infectious Inquiry: this seems like an absolute must have and am honestly considering cutting Phyrexian Arena for it. Arena does nothing the turn it ETBs and if I draw it late game it'll literally do nothing. Infectious Inquiry on the otherhand is always relevant, replaces itself and draws me a card. I just can't help but feel like i'm missing something by cutting Phyrexian Arena. I want to go ahead with this decision but I can't help but feel apprehensive and would really like your thoughts on this one.

  • Infectious Bite: I want to love this card but unfortunately besides the commander there are relatively few creatures whose bite would make any meaningful impact on the game. I think I might pass on this one.

  • Prologue to Phyresis: Everything you said about this card is spot on, and it is relevant at any point of the game. The question is - what to cut for it? I think cutting Contagion Clasp might be the move on this one, but i'm not entirely sure. Clasp is very conditional removal but what's important is that it's a repeatable proliferation source. But, maybe the new inclusions will help offset the loss of a proliferation source? I think this is the right move but I would like to hear your thoughts.

"What's your experience with Blightsteel Colossus and Contagion Engine? Do they ever come out to the battlefield or just happen to be on-theme inclusions?" To answer your question both hit the battlefield on a regular basis. Blightsteel Colossus is surprisingly easy to cast with a proliferated Astral Cornucopia or Everflowing Chalice. One of my best plays was countering a Villainous Wealth with being equal to 8 with Mana Drain and funneling that mana into a turn 5 Blightsteel. Contagion Engine is great for mass removal as well as a proliferation engine. If I tutor for it it's usually alongside Tangle Wire after Ichor Rats hit the field. It essentially grinds the game down to a snail's pace - or a halt under the right conditions.

End rant, sorry to write you a book but I had a lot on my mind. Please let me know what you think of all the upcoming changes!

_Delta_ on Welcome to Phyrexia

1 year ago

Looks good so far, my only immediate suggestions would be to consider Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon, Ichor Rats, Blighted Agent and a few other infect things perhaps. Some of the sword cycle could be fun also like Sword of Truth and Justice.

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