Ichor Rats

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vintage Legal

Ichor Rats

Creature — Phyrexian Rat

Infect (This creature deals damage to creature in the form of -1/-1 counters and to players in the form of poison counters.)

When Ichor Rats enters the battlefield, each player gets a poison counter.

_Delta_ on Welcome to Phyrexia

3 weeks ago

Looks good so far, my only immediate suggestions would be to consider Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon, Ichor Rats, Blighted Agent and a few other infect things perhaps. Some of the sword cycle could be fun also like Sword of Truth and Justice.

Mortlocke on Death's Kiss

1 month ago

I'm curious, what's your impression of Ajani, Sleeper Agent? It does what your deck wants to do - puts +1/+1 counters on creatures, with the added spice of turning every creature you cast into a pseudo Ichor Rats.

KongMing on Antivax Dragon

2 months ago

How about cutting Ichor Rats for Torpor Orb and Corpse Cur for Leyline of the Void?

Kazierts on Pushing Poison

6 months ago

After reading your comment taking another look at your deck, I realized it has 70 cards. While, as I said, I don't intend to change your deckbuilding style, you should basically never go above 60 cards, unless your deck runs Yorion, Sky Nomad or Battle of Wits.

Your deckbuilding guidelines are quite interesting. Here's a few things I'd like to mention regarding them:

  • First, a compliment so it doesn't like I'm just criticizing everything. What you mentioned about legendary creatures is basically the correct way to play with them, in most cases. Too many can brick you and too few makes them hard to draw.

  • While, in some cases, it's good a backup windocondition, that does not apply to every archetype, Infect included. Because of the Infect keyword, the literally doesn't care about the opponent's life total. So, when you suddenly try to change to hit their life total with one or two creatures that don't have Infect, you're basically starting everything from scratch in the middle of a game. This goes into my next point which is your fear of hate cards.

  • I completely understand some cards that can shut your deck down are scary, but I feel like you're letting your fear get in the way of your deck. I'll use my deck as example. My manabase is almost completely made of nonbasic lands, yet Blood Moon doesn't scare me. Why? I have Thoughtseize and Inquisition of Kozilek. If that's not enough, then I also have Ratchet Bomb in my sideboard. Melira, Sylvok Outcast? Fatal Push, Damn, Collective Brutality and Liliana of the Veil all deal with it. My point is there multiple ways to deal with threats that don't force you into an extremely narrow path. Also, if you're playing Modern, no one will use Back to Basics because it's not legal. This also goes into my next point, which is the mana effiency.

  • Despite you saying you like to be mana effienct, a lot of cards here aren't. As I mentioned, some of them basically do nothing. Some actually do, but are overcoste, even in you examples. Sage's Row Denizen is very inefficient because mill decks like to turbo mill (which is something I personally don't like). This means the best mill creatures are Ruin Crab and Hedron Crab. When we come fo poisoning opponents, that's why Hand of the Praetors sees basically zero play outside of commander. Usually people just cast a Glistener Elf turn 1 and a Scale Up turn 2. Also, you're looking at the ratio, but not the usefulness of the creature. Sure, Cystbearer costs the same, manawise, as a Rot Wolf, but is incredibly worse.

If you want to follow this path of winning bast cast infect creatures with the hand on the field, then:

I understand if the above mentioned are a bit above your budget. A lot of these Infect cards haven't had a reprint yet.

I love when people go for nonstandard builds of decks. I hope you cam improve this without sacrificing too much of your own style.

raefgall on Infect & Proliferate

1 year ago

This looks like it could definitely be scary once it gets going. Very dedicated to its theme.

From a general construction sense, it could probably use a few less lands, a bit more ramp and card draw, and a few less cards on the top end (the mana curve leans high).

Some good mana staples that would help and fit the theme: Sol Ring, Arcane Signet, Commander's Sphere, Fellwar Stone, Everflowing Chalice, Astral Cornucopia, Solemn Simulacrum, Fertilid, Gyre Sage, Rishkar, Peema Renegade, Incubation Druid, Rampant Growth

Since your goal is to get poison counters on ASAP (so that proliferate matters), stuff like Ichor Rats and Plague Stinger would be good additions. Grafted Exoskeleton and Phyresis can make it so some of your other creatures can contribute to the poison damage count. Viridian Corrupter and Relic Putrescence both give you a way to give poison counters while also serving as artifact removal of a sort.

For cards to potentially remove, there are a few that fit the theme, but may be harder to get the benefit from. Melira, Sylvok Outcast and Second Chance don't do too much for you. Door of Destinies doesn't really have a good tribe to name.

There is a sort of sacrifice sub-theme going on that doesn't feel like it fully pans out. The Arcbound creatures are on the expensive side and you don't have a ton of artifact creatures to move the counters onto. Plus, if they hit for regular damage, they're not going to contribute to your infect plan. Throne of Geth and Plaguemaw Beast give repeatable proliferate, but you don't have a ton of things that you want to sacrifice, or ways to get things back from the graveyard to recur them. Martyr for the Cause and Roalesk, Apex Hybrid are only really good if you get exactly Plaguemaw Beast.

Mortlocke on Atraxa Proliferation of Humans

1 year ago

Greetings Odric_Magnusson,

In response to your question of What Creatures would you put in? (that have infect) - based upon your current decklist and design the infect creatures I would recommend need to compliment your deck's +1/+1 counters matter subtheme and should be relatively threatening on their own. Therefore, I suggest:

  • Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon : This one is a bit of a no-brainer next to Hand of the Praetors . It has evasion, built in protection and haste. Skittles is a longtime favorite of mine, and is truly an infect staple in my opinion. This one is at the top of the list, without a doubt.

  • Viral Drake : This creature ties in with your deck's +1/+1 counters matter subtheme by serving as an excellent mana dump for proliferation triggers. On top of having infect, it also has evasion. A great pick in my opinion.

  • Ichor Rats : This creature serves as a means of getting poison counters on players when they have a Pillow Fort strategy online before you could get infect combat damage in. Additionally, it's a great recursion target if you can get multiple triggers of it's ETB effect.

  • Inkmoth Nexus : This is an honorable mention, but this land has served me well over many games. It has built in protection due to being a land and +1/+1 counters do not fall off of it when it stops being a creature. The icing on the cake is that it also has evasion.

That's it for my suggestions. Your list is pretty good, and definitely will make any opponent weary of you during any point in a game. +1 again! lol

Mortlocke on New hubs to be added

1 year ago

Hello legendofa,

I propose a new hub to be added: Phyrexian. During Modern Horizons 2, 225 creatures were retconned into having the Phyrexian creature subtype to join Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider . Additionally, there were a smattering of Enchantments, Artifacts and etc that ether have the Phyrexian subtype or create creature tokens that do. Thanks to this retcon I now have a deck that has a Phyrexian tribal theme. For your reference, below is a full list of spells that were affected by WotC's Phyrexian errata.

Source: https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Phyrexian

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