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Lost Leonin Discussion
21 hours ago
I would take Vampires because Markov provides the most value from the command zone and usually you can completely forget any fancy win options directly out of the box. They haven't even put Lost Leonin or any cheap double striker in the cat deck, so I wouldn't use that precon for a tournament, although I like what can be done with Arahbo if you build your own deck.
5 days ago
Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor thanks for your suggestions! I don't play just any goodstuff equipment, I can only really use what maximizes dmg output in the early game here. The deck isn't voltron or equipment based but only focuses on getting the most value out of free +3/+3 every turn, which is best achieved with double strike and cheap, powerful pump spells
I absolutely don't want to get into a long grinding late game, so my few cards with higher casting cost are there to end the game if it hasn't happened already. I'm not sure if I come possibly squeeze in Balan or Jazal in this plan. They both cost 4 mana and without two equipments Balan is just a 3/3. The instant equip ability is great though, might be worth a try...he could even get swords with pro white or green attached after getting the boost from Arahbo.
Beastmaster Ascension...tested in mono g, unfortunately always too slow. If it doesn't activate with one or two attacks at most, it's a wasted card. It competes with stuff like Lost Leonin and Phytoburst here, which is the fastest way to kill in this deck (turn 2 with any 0 mana artifact). I really don't want to attack multiple times before getting a bonus out of a spell.
Sigarda's Aid is great, equipment attached for free is exactly what I want! Stonehewer Giant is a bit expensive with 3WW but the ability might be worth it. I hope the whole commander set is soon available on Xmage so I can test online until the real cards arrive.
1 week ago
@ Tots - I can definitely understand some of the options you mentioned.
Leonin Skyhunter - meant to be a source of fast damage with Arahbo's free pump effect. Cats don't typically fly either, so while not ideal, it can serve as a blocker in a pinch. You are absolutely right in that it's returns diminish as time goes on.
Skyhunter Skirmisher - same deal as above, Double strike being an added bonus. A better option than Skyhunter as the double strike will always be relevant, but also fades as time goes on.
Enlightened Ascetic - meant to be removal on a stick that doubles as a body, but when compared to other options, I can see this getting the boot.
Noble Panther - Aside from the art being really sweet, it is one of the only multi color cats in the deck. I'd like to keep it, but I'm aware of it's flaws and it's among the cards that are likely to be cut.
Leonin Relic-Warder - Unlike Enlightened Ascetic, it can hit artifacts or enchantments. Even if the removal is temporary, it also serves as bait for removal if they want their stuff back. I don't see this one being cut when all is said and done.
Lost Leonin - I completely understand, and I actually kind of hate myself (slightly) for it's inclusion. It's a way to burst poison someone out of the game with Arahbo's free pump and his 3 mana second ability. It's an anti lifegain card that benefits from all other bonuses for the tribe... I'd like to keep it, but I see it as a potential cut and not a definite one.
Phantom Nishoba - A lifelink, trample 7/7 for 7 that effectively has 7 lives is appealing, especially with Arahbo on board. It's a late game threat that, if worst comes to worse, it's a blocker that gains me life and prevents a bunch of commander damage. The deck list is already light on higher cmc cards, would like to keep a few.
Sabertooth Nishoba - Kind of along the same line as Phantom Nishoba, it's a beefy tribal card that has pro-2 colors. It'll work great with Arahbo and serves as a solid blocker or way to get in. The deck list is already light on higher cmc cards, would like to keep a few.
1 week ago
I'd cut Lost Leonin, Leonin Skyhunter, Skyhunter Skirmisher, Enlightened Ascetic, Noble Panther, Phantom Nishoba, Sabertooth Nishoba, and Leonin Relic-Warder. Most of these are good for early game but all fall off incredibly hard incredibly fast. What's a turn 5 Leonin Skyhunter going to do but slow you down. That will put you at 100.
1 week ago
1 week ago
So, looks like a great deck beginning -- you say it yourself that it's the "cat tribal voltron" bit that needs fixing, because as it is, this deck is a little unfocused (totally understandable when a sweet new set is spoiled!).
You currently have 123 cards, so first order of business is to find about 23 cards to cut, which depends on which direction you want to lean.
"Cat tribal" and "Voltron" aren't necessarily compatible, so I'd suggest finding a harmony between those. Voltron in the true sense uses your commander to deal 21 damage, and Arahbo is terrible in that role (he says "another Cat"). Nazahn is much better for Voltron, since he is automatically indestructible on ETB with his Hammer. If you lean into Voltron, I'd cut a lot of the superfluous Cats like Lost Leonin/Skyhunter Skirmisher/Regal Caracal and the go-wide stuff like Door of Destinies that don't do a lot in an alpha-strike strategy.
For "cat tribal", on the other hand, begin by cutting all the terrible Cats (Lost Leonin) and all the non-cats. As cool as Dromoka/Stoneforge/etc are, for pure tribal they're flavor fails. I would also cut the MLD like Armageddon that is only good in pure Voltron where you don't want anything to be cast after you stick Nazahn.
Hope all that makes sense. I only suggested cuts, not adds, because you've got a good core here -- it just has a bit of schizophrenia and wants to be 2 decks at once (: best of luck, and mention me if I can be of help!
1 week ago
I think I have said it on multiple occasions but the most important cats for this commander will be Lost Leonin, Adorned Pouncer and Skyhunter Skirmisher. They don't cost anything but enable the fastest kills with the free boost from the command zone.
2 weeks ago
I actually like Lost Leonin in the deck, especially when you add Blade of Selves XD