Creature — Cat Soldier
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|New Phyrexia (NPH)||Common|
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Lost Leonin occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.0%
Lost Leonin Discussion
7 hours ago
I would go with Arahbo, Roar of the World and with a tactic of always having one or two cats on the field trying to hit people. Go tall. Alms Collector , Enlightened Ascetic , Kinjalli's Sunwing , Lost Leonin , Skyhunter Skirmisher , Stalking Leonin , Temur Sabertooth , Whitemane Lion , some ramp, removals, protection, a board wipe or two and some equipment. would take out Jareth, Leonine Titan because too much mana, Jazal Goldmane, Nacatl War-Pride , Qasali Slingers and Jedit Ojanen of Efrava for the same reason. Also cool are Heroic Intervention and Selesnya Charm. Stave Off has a cat on it.
3 weeks ago
Hey cPute, thanks! I'm glad you like the deck! It was one of the earlier decks I built after getting back into magic after some time away (and obviously I took a number of ques from the precon). I put it together to introduce my wife to EDH for the first time and then just sort of kept upgrading it on and off over time.
I did run both Duelist's Heritage and Lost Leonin in the deck at one point. Ended up feeling like they (among many other cards) weren't preforming as well as I wanted them too so I swapped them out for True Conviction and Grafted Exoskeleton (though I ended up cutting the exoskeleton for one of the swords, infect just didn't fit the feel/theme I am going for when building this deck and my wife wasn't enjoying playing with those effects. It does work well with Sword of Truth and Justice though...).
As for Duelist's Heritage I've gone back and forth a bit. On the one hand it comes down faster than True Conviction, you often only have one creature you care about targeting, and it can be a political tool. On the other hand True Conviction can end games in it's own with little set up other than a few random creatures, doesn't run into issues with me giving my creatures pro white or shroud and not working, it works a bit better with some of the token/tribal sub themes, and life-gain is an okay side benefit in a deck like this that can struggle in a multiplayer setting. Honestly I'm still a bit torn between the two but I'm not sure what I would cut to make room for both.
Anyway, thanks for the tips and the feedback! I appreciate it :)
3 weeks ago
I love kitties (it was my first preconstructed deck),so +1. :-)
Have you considered cards like Duelist's Heritage and Lost Leonin? I won two games on turn 3 with this "combo" (2nd turn Lost Leonin, 3rd turn Duelist's Heritage and attack with infect for 10).
4 weeks ago
Love the name
As for suggestions I feel like the deck doesn't have enough tribe members and some cards just have a better version like Crushing Vines should be Return to Nature the deck is also lacking a little bit in targeted removal.
Love the deck and the new cat alts are great
2 months ago
I do not like Pouncing Jaguar , the echo is just too annoying and plenty of 1 drop cats exist. Glittering Lynx , Charmed Stray , etc. Pendelhaven tends to be better than a forest for these cards as well.
Lost Leonin can result in earlier kills than any cat opening and dramatic boosts from Duelist's Heritage and Silverblade Paladin similarly speed up kills. Combined with Lost Leonin you can occasionally steal a turn 3 kill. You might find Rhonas the Indomitable
Life's Legacy and Hunter's Insight create a remarkable amount of advantage and Lifecrafter's Bestiary is surprisingly effective, the scry is surprisingly strong for the deck given its natural redundancy issues and the draws just build up advantage.
Krosan Vorine is nice creature removal that happens to be a cat. You seem to be avoiding creature-based spot removal, which I find surprising to the extent you aren't even running Swords to Plowshares , which I guess was an intentional meta call.
A higher-curved call like Regal Caracal seems a bit slow for cat plays, I'd prefer The Great Henge , where a 5 power cat, (original power of 2 with Arahbo boost), gets it to be a 5 drop, or even a 4 drop with 6 power from those 3 original powered cats, etc.
2 months ago
Nifty list. I don't have the cards or meta that you do, playing a more casual styled meta, and I play 1 v 1 30 life commander, so my list is very different, though in many cases I can see why we have different cards. But there are some things that I am curious about and I do have some suggestions. Hopefully you find some of them helpful.
Pouncing Jaguar has 2 power for a 1 drop cat, but 1 mana echo seems very annoying. Steppe Lynx may need landfall, but I imagine in the early turns this is achievable and you can save your mana for other things. Given your artifact hate I imagine players will trigger Leonin Elder often enough to give little life boosts. Glittering Lynx can also be randomly annoying for a 1 drop cat. Sure, they aren't 2 power starters, but at the start neither is Leonin Vanguard , which you run as an early game pressure card.
Do you love your life so much for your lifegain plan to use Spirit Loop ? I'm not sure I'd use a card with little other purpose. Given your buffs standards Battle Mastery seems ok, Silverblade Paladin should be a favorite, a creature to tutor for combos with cats, especially Lost Leonin , is good alongside its own 2/2 double strike frame. Grafted Wargear is nice, though I suppose with artifact removal the drawback stings, though it can't be much worse than a combat tricked creature removal on king of the pride. Still, grafted is faster than Heirloom Blade .
Pendelhaven is a better forest in most cases, a free 1 power boost in addition to being an untapped green source. I have enjoyed Mutavault as getting under the radar as a cat land. For ramp is burning a and to draw so good to use it over nature's lore or an artifact like Arcane Signet , even with your artifact hate out?
Skyhunter Skirmisher eats life quickly, though as a 3 drop that needs Arahbo to sink into it you might find it slow and weak to removal's tempo. Rhonas serves as such 3 drop support with a bit of added mana sink damage. As far as swarm boosts go Metallic Mimic is an early game 2 drop cat option that rewards swarming multiple cats.
7 months ago
7 months ago
Efficient creatures with Infect is a strange thing to discuss because of Infect's inherent massive difference between damaging creatures and damaging players. And I think this is the reason why Infect is such a hated mechanic by many.
You can keep playing new creatures to block Infect-sources, that's a "renewable" resource. Poison counters is not something you can interact with (in a positive way) so once it's there, you cannot really do anything about it.
Infect also has the fundamental flaw that it plays its very own sub genre of a win condition and doesn't interact well with many other mechanics in the Magic universe. It plays extremely well with pump effects, because it basically has a hard cap of 10 damage dealt to a player and we're home safe.
However most Infect creatures are either blockable or are too heavy to play around as a win condition. I guess that's why you say the only efficient Infect creatures are Glistener Elf and Blighted Agent . One can win by turn two with pump spells before the opponent can reasonably have a chance to put down a blocker or deal with it, and the other the opponent cannot block, so it doesn't have to be thrown down before the match really starts.
You could just as easily have said Blight Mamba , Flensermite , Ichorclaw Myr , Lost Leonin , Necropede , Plague Myr or Plague Stinger . All of those are 2 CMC 1 power creatures with Infect (well Lost Leonin has 2 power). They have all the same basic characteristics as Glistener Elf , except they cost 1 mana more. Is the difference between a 1 mana and 2 mana creature with the same basic characteristics with Infect really that big? Apparently so, as those creatures requires a whole turn more to get in position to whack for lethal and they don't have evasion (with exception of Plague Stinger , who is just in the wrong colors for efficient fast lethal smacks). In this time the opponent have had a fair chance to drop a blocker or kill the creature and that's just not good enough for Infect. Because Infect is all about dropping a low cost creature with Infect and win the turn after. If it cannot do that, it doesn't function all too well.
Such a huge margin is present for Infect and that's a contributing factor to why the mechanic is such a blow out for many players.
I'm a huge fan of Shadowmoor and Eventide's Wither mechanic. It was an interesting way to interact with large creatures, but as Berry notes, the mechanic kinda felt too weak to actually matter.
It was interesting as well to have spells with Wither Puncture Blast as it effectively read; deal 3 damage to a player or planeswalker or give a creature 3 -1/-1 counters.
I do hope they consider bringing Wither back, but you wont see me hold my breath for Infect's return. The mechanic is in my eyes fundamentally flawed.
According to MaRo and his Storm Scale article (https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/storm-scale-mirrodin-and-scars-mirrodin-blocks-2018-06-11) , he is more optimistic about Poison counters return than he is Infect.