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Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
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Creatures your opponents control get -2/-2.
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Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite Discussion
2 days ago
I would take out Blinding Angel, unless you have one person in the group who runs ground aggro. For the most part, the combat phase of other players is inconsequential.
I would also take out Isamaru, Hound of Konda. Just because he's legendary, doesn't mean that he's worth putting in the 99. Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite would be better, as she is on flavor with pumping up your creatures.
4 days ago
It's a good start, needs a bit of tweaking. Look up Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite on here and see what people did for it as a commander. I did that a ton for my Sliver EDH deck and it works amazing. I've been playing MTG for about a decade and a half now and the best tool you can use is others. They can give suggestions what to use and how to build decks around cards you'd like to use.
1 week ago
Welcome back to magic and the best format, modern! Esper is a great color combination, some of the best removal and some of the grindiest capabilities out there. I'm not sure how budget you are looking to go or how much you are willing to spend so I will give some suggestions in both categorizes.
Timely Reinforcements one thing that I have notice, both playing against and playing with esper decks, is that even though the color combo has some great removal some times you need higher impact cards than point removal but you also need more efficient cards than board wipes. Lingering Souls, which you already have, is a great example of this kind of card. Timely Reinforcements is another great way to combat highly aggressive decks (which are popular right now).
Azorius Signet is one of my favorite ways to accelerate mana in control decks. This is important in fast metagames though it sucks to draw late. This kind of card is really up to you if you want to include it.
Tidehollow Sculler is an interesting choice for a midrange style of this deck, in that it can attack along with disrupting their game plan.
Something you might consider, since you are in the right colors for it, is playing Thopter Foundry+Sword of the Meek combo as your way to grind. Many people have been trying to make it work with cards like Whir of Invention or Tezzeret the Seeker or Glint-Nest Cranes to find either the foundry or the sword. this might be a cool include.
Non budget suggestions:
lands! I'm sure you are aware of shock lands, since you played during innastrad, but you missed onslaught fetchlands being printed into modern. So now you have access to Flooded Strand/Polluted Delta+Hallowed Fountain/Watery Grave.
A very strong combo in esper is Gifts Ungiven+Unburial Rites+Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite/Iona, Shield of Emeria. Turn 4, end of their turn, you cast Gifts Ungiven and only get Unburial Rites and whatever you want to reanimate, they have to choose to send them both to your graveyard. When you untap you will have the mana to reanimate whatever you got.
Cryptic Command is a must
Celestial Colonnade is a must include for control decks. You mentioned that you wanted to keep it mid range. Even so, this is a fantastic way to close out games after a board wipe. Creeping Tar Pit is a very good alternative to colonnade.
I hope these suggestions were helpful. If you get tired of the esper deck, you can check out my podcast where we brew a new modern deck every episode.
1 week ago
PookandPie Hey, thanks for the suggestions! I threw Hushwing Gryff and Selvala, Explorer Returned back into the deck. I took them out trying other cards. I was going in the flexibility direction rather than the same combo over and over every game, to be ready for anything that was thrown at me. But for efficiency's sake I do agree with the changes you suggested. $ is also always an aspect as this deck is my most expensive, and I have trouble putting any more money into it to make it cost more than a months rent! Linvala, Keeper of Silence and Azusa, Lost but Seeking could be potential adds in the near future. I had ran the Nature's Revolt Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite combo before but chose to stick with the Kamahl, Fist of Krosa and the latters land zap combo, for keeping friends sake. Again, thank you for the help and I'll be sure to check out your deck(s) as well!
2 weeks ago
Obzedat, Ghost Council is good, also Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite. you could also add some big eldrazi (Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger) if you want to be super budget. Other than that I think the deck is very nice
2 weeks ago
Whip of Erebos works really well w/ Necropotence the importance of the whip is the lifelink, the reanimator part is good to bring a Noosegraf Mob and storm for the tokens or the sun titan to bring another permanent from the graveyard (usually a win con).
And the Mentor, its just more carddraw, almost all of the tokens can proc the mentor and my mana with the Phyrexian tower is not a problem at all, so its a nice card.
some games 2 or more discard permanents are in, that's the moment when necropotence is a bless, and if not its still a great draw engine, losing 2 or 3 life a round is not bad if i get the sangromancer, suture priest (soon), the whip or vault of the archangel
2 weeks ago
This was a unique one that I'd never seen. It didn't work out in my opponent's favor
I drew a card, got a 1/1, it dies to Elesh, loot with crows, deal 1 damage with crawler, repeat until gg haha
2 weeks ago
thattallguy Thank you for the suggestions. The deck used to run a Ghostly Prison and you are right taxes can slow some backlash. However my play group already has a Zur Prison deck that basically sits there and this feels like building in that "Pillow Fort" direction.
I have seriously considered War's Toll (it is an underrated card). Basandra having "All creatures you control must attack if able" is really cool. I run Mana Web in that spot right now because it still hampers mana but costs me 1 less.