Ogre Menial

Ogre Menial

Creature — Ogre

Infect (This creature deals damage to creatures in the form of -1/-1 counters and to players in the form of poison counters.)

{{R}}: Ogre Menial gets +1/+0 until end of turn.

Browse Alters View at Gatherer

Printings View all

Set Rarity
New Phyrexia (NPH) Common

Combos Browse all

Legality

Format Legality
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Vintage Legal
Limited Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Modern Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Leviathan Legal
Block Constructed Legal
2019-10-04 Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Legacy Legal
Pauper Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Highlander Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal

Latest Decks as Commander

Ogre Menial Discussion

TheVectornaut on Searing Infection

1 week ago

Most of my experience with infect comes from playing simic, but I have played the mechanic in all 5 colors. In terms of power, green is the most effective color to play by a very VERY large margin. You get access to the best infect creature in Glistener Elf (along with the slower and safer option of Blight Mamba), you get trample sources to push through damage with Ichorclaw Myr such as Rancor, Predator's Strike, and Larger Than Life, you get protection bundled with buffs in the form of Vines of Vastwood, Ranger's Guile, and Blossoming Defense, and you get the largest pool of very strong power boosts in the form of Mutagenic Growth, Invigorate, Scale Up, Might of Old Krosa, Berserk, Become Immense, Groundswell, Phytoburst, Noble Hierarch, and Pendelhaven. Since infect is an all-or-nothing sort of archetype, even when running the less aggressive versions, the most important characteristics that you need are speed, protection, and evasion. Green offers two of those things in spades but can struggle with evasion. This is why blue is generally considered the next best color to run. You get the insane threat of Blighted Agent, unblockable buffs with Distortion Strike and Aqueous Form, and protection from spells via Spell Pierce, Dispel, Turn Aside, and the odd Spellskite. Black is the next best. Plague Stinger's flying isn't as good as the unblockable on a Blighted Agent but it's still very powerful evasion as illustrated by the ubiquity of Inkmoth Nexus in every non-budget infect list ever made. Black also nets useful control tools like Thoughtseize, Inquisition of Kozilek, Fatal Push, Dismember, and Assassin's Trophy. White was considered the worst infect color for a very long time since its best option (Apostle's Blessing) can be used in any deck, but the recent introduction of Giver of Runes has breathed some life back into the color. Additionally, I've seen a lot of equipment lists popping up that use Colossus Hammer, Kor Duelist, Sigarda's Aid, and Kor Outfitter to see some success. Unfortunately, that leaves red as the current worst color to run in infect. It has some decent buffs but they pale in comparison to green's offerings. The result is that most red infect decks rely on gimmicks like using Razor Swine's first strike to wither enemy creatures, generating infinite mana to pump into an unblocked Ogre Menial, or putting Phyresis on something like a Spikeshot Elder to bypass combat altogether. Your instant tricks definitely fall in this category. That's not necessarily a bad thing though. If your meta is casual enough, red should still work and it will be much more interesting to play with / fun to play against than a more traditional deck. How competitive you want to be is always up to you.

To answer your specific questions, I would probably start by cutting a few creatures. Most lists run about 12 infect sources (and that's including a playset of Inkmoth Nexus). With Hand of the Praetors on your top end, running 16-20 isn't that unreasonable, at least as long as all of them are good. Infect creatures usually become "bad" when they cost more than 2. That's why I wouldn't usually recommend running Ichor Rats or Septic Rats. Both Necropede and Plague Myr are perfectly acceptable inclusions with very similar power levels. They'll rarely be better than Plague Stinger or Ichorclaw Myr but that's okay if you just want more guys to play. As for Vector Asp, it's honestly a pretty bad choice in most circumstances. While you usually won't need to activate it more than 2 or 3 times to win the game, that mana would be better spent elsewhere, and it doesn't even trigger the Hand. However, given the choice of it and a 3-drop, I'd probably take the snake, especially since it would be your only proactive play on turn 1 (barring the inclusion of Glistener Elf or Inkmoths). Better though would just be to run neither and invest in more buff spells to assist in combat and trigger Livewire Lash. I do like the idea of those spells having cycling in theory, but in practice, the mana needed to cycle can short you of the resources needed to close out the game. Plus, cycling spells tend to cost more to account for the added ability. Cycling lands on the other hand should be fine as long as they come in untapped, although it looks like that only describes Ash Barrens and Blasted Landscape. Just like with creatures, I wouldn't run any spells that cost more than 2 unless they can win you the game like Soul's Fire can. This will also allow you to run 20 lands or fewer, opening up even more slots for gas. I apologize if I'm repeating myself about the low-cost-high-speed thing but that is basically the reason the infect mechanic exists. If you prefer a slow and more controlling style, Rakdos wither built around Necroskitter is a fun option that has some overlap with infect.

triproberts12 on Suggestions for Rakdos?

5 months ago

Oh, in that case, if you aren't super set on Rakdos, but are just trying to play RBx, I'd suggest going for a Snapdax, Apex of the Hunt infect deck. Mutating up an Ichorclaw Myr, Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon Flesh-Eater Imp, Ogre Menial, Phyrexian Crusader, etc. seems awesome with double strike. Or you can just hardcast Snappy and put a Grafted Exoskeleton or Phyresis on it.

austintayshus on

1 year ago

If you want to make this an infect deck, you will certainly need more infect. Sadly, some of the best infect cards are in and .

In , you have access to: Blightsteel Colossus Blighted Agent Ichorclaw Myr Viral Drake Inkmoth Nexus Phyrexian Juggernaut Ogre Menial Plague Myr

Hope this helps!

UberNinja2016 on R/B Infect

1 year ago

@GreenFire317

Monastery Swiftspear is there as a solid turn one creature option, since the bulk of the creatures in this deck are cost two mana. If you would like to replace them with an infect creature, I would recommend Necropede over your other suggestions, as it is another 2-drop (and colorless, so you don't need to worry about colors at all). The thought process behind not using Ogre Menial or Fallen Ferromancer is that they are way too expensive for their effects, at least for this deck.

From a pump spell stance, Ferromancer is no better than any other 1/1, and pinging someone for one poison is kind of slow for the deck.

The ogre is a little better, as at least it doesn't die to Lightning Bolt , but still, 4 mana is too slow.

I considered Razor Swine while I was getting the list together, but first strike isn't enough to save it from a large chunk of 3-drop blockers and for 3 mana that makes it kind of under powered.

GreenFire317 on R/B Infect

1 year ago

Not seeing the reason for Monastery Swiftspear . How about Razor Swine Ogre Menial or Fallen Ferromancer for red infect.

mal099 on Weird U/W Pauper Combo

1 year ago

Looking at the decks, I feel like the combo you do where you can tap a creature to do one damage does not work very well with infect. Still takes 10 rounds to win, and any lonely 2/1 unblockable creature can do the same, and cheaper, if we ignore the possibility of lifegain. It's nice to be able to put -1/-1 counters on creatures I suppose, but that means you take even longer to win. I'd probably just forget about that combo and just go for speed.

I feel like white is not really doing much for you - there's some creature removal, which other colors, including blue, can do as well, and there's some more creatures with infect, which again, other colors have too. But white is bad at making creatures stronger, a weakness it shares with blue. Comparing the other colors:

Red: Bad with infect, Ogre Menial really is too expensive, Razor Swine seems decent. But very good at doing damage! Start with a mere 1/1 with infect, pump it up with Fists of the Anvil (or Blood Lust / Blood Frenzy , then double the damage with Assault Strobe , Double Cleave or Temur Battle Rage , and BAM! 10 damage with infect, all you need is some enchantment to make it unblockable, which blue can easily provide. Also provides creature removal through direct damage.

Green: Lots of ways to make your creatures stronger too. No Double Strike, but more creatures with infect. Very little creature removal.

Black: Also quite a few good creatures with infect, also good at making creatures stronger. Lots of good creature removal. Can make the opponent discard cards, so it's good at control.

Load more