Creature — Dragon
Whenever Balefire Dragon deals combat damage to a player, it deals that much damage to each creature that player controls.
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|Ultimate Masters Promo (UMAP)||Mythic Rare|
|Ultimate Masters (UMA)||Mythic Rare|
|Innistrad (ISD)||Mythic Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Balefire Dragon occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.03%
Balefire Dragon Discussion
1 week ago
@X-Factor11105 my meta is... a little weird. There's a lot of big, stompy decks like Mayael, Kozilek, Zacama, and Hogaak, but everyone (rightfully) runs a lot of interaction, so boardwipes, spot removal, and artifact hate run rampant. It doesn't even have to be in the early game - even if it's turn 8, that Wrath of God is going to suck when it wrecks your myr, but it'll hurt a lot less if you've been using noncreature ramp like Rakdos Signet or Talisman of Indulgence.
As for not being as ETB-focused as other builds, this is true. It's very much a result of playtesting, where I found that focusing too much on ETB effects actually kind of gets in the way of really winning the game. I mean, I want my dragons to get those sweet, sweet Dragon Tempest/Warstorm Surge triggers, but after that I want them to actually close out the game. They get bonus points if they are capable of interacting with my opponents' boards while they do so. So I've grown to favor dragons like Tyrant's Familiar, Balefire Dragon, Drakuseth, Maw of Flames, etc. - dragons that can present a fast clock, and can also kill stuff while they're at it. I don't want my dragons to be just big dumb beaters - I want them to all be removal-on-a-stick. Since most of the best removal-based dragons trigger on attacking or dealing combat damage, that has naturally led the deck to focus more and more on the combat step, as opposed to just abusing ETBs.
1 week ago
Check out my deck FELDON EDH PRIMER: FELDON NEEDS SOME LOVE. I’ve put a ton of time into polishing this off, so hopefully there will be some good pointers for you. Feldon is my favorite.
Here are the best cards that support Feldon. You’ve already got Illusionist's Bracers. Other great cards are Thousand-Year Elixir, Magewright's Stone, Puppet Strings (I don’t run it though), Sundial of the Infinite, Mirage Mirror, and a card I really want to get my hands on: Rings of Brighthearth. All of these cards allow for multiple activations of Feldon a turn, easily putting you in a dominant position. Mirage Mirror can copy a reanimated creature, a useful enchantment, or turn into a land in response to removal. It’s great. I underestimated it at first.
Some other aces I’ve found are Balefire Dragon, Molten Primordial, Ancient Stone Idol, and any eldrazi. Not the titans that shuffle. The smaller ones. It That Betrays, Pathrazer of Ulamog, Ulamog's Crusher, Breaker of Armies and whatnot.
1 month ago
Thrill of Possibility is quite good, very modular and draw, works great with Worldgorger Dragon , Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker , Karmic Guide even a Razaketh, the Foulblooded is a great recursion target and wins the game. It's on my maybe, still evaluating what comes out for it. Hoping to get a really good evaluation of Dockside Extortionist today.
I need to get Abeyance in for sure to stop Thassa's Oracle - Protean Hulk , doesn't stop Thassa's Oracle - Demonic Consultation though sadly, so not sure. Pyroblast and Red Elemental Blast should probably go in to move toward cEDH.
I'm trying to decide if I should abandon a damage line (currently combo/synergy/combat damage), since I almost exclusively win with Buried Alive + Reanimate right now, and solid secondary in Leonin Relic-Warder line and tertiary with Worldgorger Dragon and strong synergies in Razaketh, the Foulblooded (pulls the Leonin Relic-Warder combo) and Master of Cruelties .
Some cards I'm considering cutting for Abeyance (at least) and Thrill of Possibility , Avacyn, Angel of Hope , Balefire Dragon , Gisela, Blade of Goldnight , Mother of Runes which would make Diabolic Intent and Mausoleum Secrets worse and maybe unplayable, Steelshaper's Gift although a haste/shroud Kaalia of the Vast into a Razaketh, the Foulblooded into a win is very good, Talisman of Conviction but feel pretty low in mana sources as-is, plus Mox Diamond isn't in my printed deck (saving up store credit at Card Kingdom), Yawgmoth's Will . I did put Aven Mindcensor in for Serra Ascendant , changes the type of pressure I can put on early. May decide to take him out, usually my strategy is put in more tutors/go for win and try and win first but the Fish is just too fast and too low CMC and too hard to disrupt. Not going as far as Burnout
Hushbringer shuts down so much of my deck (and combos), it's tough to get around, then I'll have to find removal for my own creature, but maybe Diabolic Intent it for Buried Alive and then Mausoleum Secrets for Reanimate off her, but the mana cost is too much.
Lot's to think about, likely needed Pyroblast and Red Elemental Blast in too, but until Jan 24th (think that's when it becomes legal to play), not in a rush. In reality all the top commanders are anyway and piggyback on similar combos.
1 month ago
Very cool! These might interest you: Burning Earth , Dingus Staff , Angel's Trumpet , Balefire Dragon , Ronin Cliffrider , Kusari-Gama , Well of Lost Dreams , Mogg Maniac , Coalhauler Swine , Polyraptor , General's Regalia , Pariah's Shield , Darksteel Plate , Hammer of Nazahn , Broken Fall , Molting Skin
1 month ago
Didn't get any games in this weekend, plus trying to make a plan for Thassa's Oracle , not going to be able to keep Red Elemental Blast or Pyroblast out anymore with Flash and Protean Hulk T1/T2 now. Not sure I'm ready for the stax of Hushbringer . Abeyance or Silence don't seem to do anything. Praetor's Grasp to high CMC for me, been happy with Thoughtseize . Angel's Grace and Ad Nauseam back in? Burnout probably has to go in, need 3 spots. I'm not even sure if an efficient instant draw spell to target the opponent would be useful, if one existed.
Necromancy works with Worldgorger Dragon and Leonin Relic-Warder , but I have Dance of the Dead in temporarily testing it. I also have Corpse Dance in testing with Dockside Extortionist . Deciding if Dockside Extortionist is good enough on own without the Infinite interaction with Corpse Dance , if the combo is viable (i don't think so, still needs sac outlet), or whether Dockside Extortionist is just a little too slow and frees up 2 slots. No room for Shallow Grave ATM, need to find the above interaction slots as well.
Need to find a way to win on T2 consistently as well, might have to keep increasing my T1 win draw probability, and T2 and sacrifice T3-T5 to try and get there faster. Changes are costing me efficiency on Diabolic Intent , will not be good if I lose that. Mox Opal cheap now, but the probabilities numbers still don't make sense to contribute to enough T1 wins vs. T1 dead draws. Wishclaw Talisman could help with good artifact count.
Angel of Despair may come out for the instant since she stops Show and Tell + Omniscience but not Thassa's Oracle . Might be her time. Balefire Dragon , Avacyn, Angel of Hope , move away from a damage line Gisela, Blade of Goldnight . Have about 12 cards on my potential cut list anyways, just have to decide how to stop the fish. Other than the efficiency of The Gitrog Monster , all the top commanders are , they need to stop printing OP cards, but let's ban CMC9 Iona, Shield of Emeria because it's no fun, but let's make win on T1 more consistently, just such strange thinking IMHO.
Will keep you posted on how things go.
1 month ago
Cool idea! You might like these: Somberwald Sage , Draining Whelk , Venser, Shaper Savant , Flametongue Kavu , Balefire Dragon , Ulvenwald Tracker , Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir , Seedborn Muse , Stunt Double , Master Biomancer , Riku of Two Reflections , Wild Beastmaster , Ogre Battledriver , Cauldron of Souls , Colfenor's Urn , Storm the Citadel
1 month ago
I see where you're coming from. It's going to be very difficult as Mardu doesn't have much options available with low CMC for filtering your deck out.
If you're abandoning the combat line and aren't really winning with combat damage then there's no need for Gisela, Blade of Goldnight . Balefire Dragon Can be viable against tokens or stax creatures. Kind of use as a backup? It's better than having to pay life with one time uses such as Fire Covenant and Hatred but maybe Avacyn, Angel of Hope might be the better route to take, especially if you're relying on your permanents to win.
Chains of Mephistopheles I can see being situational, it affects you as well. I like Stranglehold alot but I dislike the , it's too costly for what you have going on. Aven Mindcensor being slightly better but still at it's like Ehh, definitely makes Chains of Mephistopheles the better option only at You also have Spirit of the Labyrinth which is in someway a poor mans chains, only at
I agree about getting a Mox Diamond that is almost a must! Should be next on your list in regards to high ticket cards to get
1 month ago
I've been making changes, some have worked out, some not so much. Still having the same challenge getting the Avg Win Turn down to 4 or below, however, I have seen the combo win-% go up dramatically, almost never kill with combat damage anymore ( Rakdos the Defiler and Kaalia of the Vast + Master of Cruelties are the exceptions).
Giving Dockside Extortionist a fair test, so far no feeling either way, hasn't been stellar, hasn't been a disappointment. I put Corpse Dance in to give him an Infinite Combo so he has the best opportunity to impress me, we'll see. He is not my style of card, anything that relies on my opponents doing something, I generally avoid, but still evaluating what he is, recently added.
I've actually removed every (except Hall of the Bandit Lord ) non-T1 land, so Meteor Crater won't meet my criteria. Also trying to cut down on the # of non- Worldgorger Dragon effective lands where I can too (like Sacred Foundry ), that way if I T1 Worldgorger Dragon can make infinite with "most" lands.
Reflecting Pool , Dragonskull Summit (all check lands), and others have been eliminated, hate not having a on T1. I do like having Swamp and Plains , also note I've added Snow-Covered Swamp as well, to mitigate Blood Moon type effects, and utilize the Path to Exile and Assassin's Trophy (and some other ramp spells) benefits.
Forbidden Orchard is good, but doesn't work great with Master of Cruelties which I still play, mana sourcing is still quite good and consistent anyway, so no need to go the Forbidden Orchard or Tarnished Citadel routes anyway unless makes strategic sense.
Mox Opal just never going there, I ran another Mox Opal probability table this past weekend for a Kess, Dissident Mage friend, I just don't like it, I won't share the whole table, but here is some reasons why. Also, keep in mind, this probability is only the probability of drawing 3 artifacts (assuming you draw a Mox Opal whats the chance you have 2 others), if I were to do P(Drawing 3 artifacts) union P(drawing Mox Opal ) would be VERY low.
T1 with 18 artifacts is only 11%. By turn 5 (ignoring additional draw for now) is only 32%. At 24 artifacts T1 is 22% and T4 (want to win on or before this turn) 52%. 28 artifacts gets close to a good playability at T1 31% and T4 58%, but I feel if Kaalia of the Vast has 28 artifacts, just to engage a Mox Opal you should probably be playing a different commander, because their just aren't that many utility artifacts for Kaalia of the Vast .
Final Parting would allow for a Animate Dead tutor and a Worldgorger Dragon GY, but also need something to do with the infinite mana or have a damage outlet ( Dragon Tempest or Bogardan Hellkite ). So at CMC7 ( Animate Dead is CMC2), I'm better off running a Doomsday pile, which I've also decided is too high CMC.
Scheming Symmetry is tempting ( Sensei's Divining Top also works), but still don't have enough draw to make it viable. With I think could be viable, but I've also seen it removed by players with draw attached to their commanders, it's just too risky, basically gives your opponent the ability to stop you and then win themselves, likely. If Scheming Symmetry was Instant it could work with Mishra's Bauble and would be a playable/fantastic tutor, but drawing your card on their turn isn't good because our Infinite combos are sorcery speed (you can build an instant speed, but it starts degrading synergy).
Thoughtseize has been fantastic and very useful, plus it's modular ability to get Worldgorger Dragon out of my hand, it's helped me avoid walking into chaos by seeing the control players hand and either knowing or removing a catastrophic play.
Right now pretty sure I need Simian Spirit Guide , the is blah, but he gives me the for Animate Dead on T1, and gives me an Animate Dead target to stop the Worldgorger Dragon loop and play out my hand, hopefully tutors or a Razaketh, the Foulblooded in a perfect scenario. So like Swamp + Entomb + Chrome Mox / Lotus Petal + Simian Spirit Guide + Animate Dead + something to do with mana (tutor probably, don't have Cut in my build) is another T1 win outlet. Tutor Razaketh, the Foulblooded , then sac Simian Spirit Guide to get Leonin Relic-Warder into Dance of the Dead and tutor up a Goblin Bombardment and a Necromancy with infinite tutor (bound by life but it's T1 and only need 2 tutors = 4 life), and then infinite damage. Hoping it will just give me another T1 path to win, which should inevitably lower my Avg win turn at some point.
Talisman of Conviction is on the potential cutting block, it's great net rock, but no .
I'm thinking of abandoning the combat damage line, so Gisela, Blade of Goldnight would go, but not quite there yet. Most don't like Avacyn, Angel of Hope , as removal is usually exile, hand or changes it's board state, rarely destroy, but gives an option from destroy effects, so I don't know yet. I took Balefire Dragon out, think I still need him, he probably could be a Fire Covenant but I like my control on my ADD, my interaction package is a little light I know that, only because I prefer to just try and win, opposed to trying to stop others from winning, just a philosophy, don't think it costs me wins.
Running out of ideas, doing research on Discord, going to look through a bunch more decks, already did comparisons to the Primers there, I'm never going Stax Ob Nixilis, Unshackled or maybe Aven Mindcensor / Chains of Mephistopheles maybe ill win the lotto one day / Stranglehold as far as I'll go if I do go that route.