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Hand of the Praetors
Creature — Zombie
Infect (This creature deals damage to creatures in the form of -1/-1 counters and to players in the form of poison counters.)
Other creatures you control with infect get +1/+1.
Whenever you cast a creature spell with infect, target player gets a poison counter.
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Hand of the Praetors Discussion
6 days ago
While a mill deck in commander is hard to create, as most of the usable/good mill cards target, it is a lot of fun to play. Discard is a little easier, but not by much. Also, the best colour combination for this type of deck is U/B and Atraxa has two extra colours that don't really help as well as her ability not synergising very well with mill or discard. Anyway, you asked and I shall try to deliver.
First the milling essentials: Glimpse the Unthinkable is the best mill spell bar none and is required. Secondly Increasing Confusion is quite good for commander, as mana totals will get quite large. Thirdly, Mind Funeral is great, as is Mind Grind. Fourthly, Mind Sculpt and Tome Scour mill for 7 and 5 respectfully, which is not too great, so only run them if you feel like that small amount of mill is extremely useful. Fifth, Hedron Crab is a great one drop due to the mill 3 per land you drop. Also, speaking of one drops, Jace's Phantasm is a good creature that soon becomes great with mill and discard. Sixth, Nemesis of Reason is stupidly good as it mills 10 per attack! It doesn't even need to cause damage! Startled Awake Flip is a nice mill spell and recurs too. Another great creature, and my recommended commander, is Szadek, Lord of Secrets. His milling will get massive really fast. All you need to do is get him in unblocked. Use Rogue's Passage or Whispersilk Cloak. Some good beaters are Consuming Aberration and Sewer Nemesis. If you don't care about price, then Jace, the Mind Sculptor is awesome, but if budget is a thing Jace Beleren is a nice cheap replacement. Now onto the milling combos! Traumatize and Fraying Sanity completely destroy an opponent, as does Keening Stone and Fraying Sanity. Archive Trap and Ghost Quarter are great together, as is Maralen of the Mornsong and Archive Trap. Also, Ghost Quarter helps get rid of land for Mind Funeral and Mind Grind. Lastly, Jace's Erasure and any card draw is quite nice. Thats about it for mill, now onto discard!
First off you need Waste Not. It is beautiful. The Rack works when you have made them discard down to 2 or less, which is one of your goals. Quest for the Nihil Stone and Shrieking Affliction are like The Rack - dealing small damage when opponents don't have hands. Liliana's Caress and Megrim do small amounts of damage per discarded card, which is nice. Bottomless Pit helps keep opponents hands empty, as does Necrogen Mists. Oppression is awesome, as is Painful Quandary, and both together is god-tier. Underworld Dreams is nice little 'screw you' after they loose their hands. Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur murders everyone but you late game. Nath of the Gilt-Leaf is goddamn beautiful and breaks even more when you have Sadistic Hypnotist, Nezumi Bone-Reader and/or Mind Slash out. Another awesome combo is Mindcrank plus Bloodchief Ascension with three counters and any discard to an opponent means you kill them. With Dark Deal or similar you win. While these two things are great and all, you need some utility and a way to keep you alive when you suddenly become the target.
To stay alive, you need some pillowforts like Propaganda and Ghostly Prison. Cards like Frozen AEther and Kismet will help keep the opponent's board from becoming too overwhelming and Standstill will prevent spells for a small while. Psychic Spiral is another great spell that gets back all of your mill spells and it also mills an opponent for a little too. Talrand, Sky Summoner is fun with all the spells you are slinging, and he provides an alternate win condition. Another alternate win is through infection. Cards like Flesh-Eater Imp, Hand of the Praetors, Phyrexian Crusader, Phyrexian Juggernaut, Necropede, Putrefax, Plague Stinger and Corpse Cur all win you the game when they deal 10 damage to an opponent. Also, Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon is a good option but is quite expensive. Cards like Giant Growth make you win harder. Infect is where Atraxa shines due to the added poison counters to each opponent every time you finish your turn. Adding Contagion Engine might even make your opponents scoop.
Good God, that is a big slab of writing. Here is a deck list I made for you: Atraxa makes you loose your mind!. Tell me what you think!
2 months ago
Wanna help me advertise the Infect guide, and make the cuts for the competitive version? I'm thinking playable at FNM at the least, or a card that doesn't see play but could be useful. This way, slightly higher CMC cards like Hand of the Praetors can be on the list. I've currently made quite a few cuts.
2 months ago
3 months ago
Sorry about the rather late reply, but here it goes!
@lukas96 I just want to point out that the Midnight Banshee + Kulrath Knight lock out combo is one of the win cons in this deck; assuming you're facing non-black decks. Also this deck is meant to be a foundation to build off of, you make the changes you believe are required for your playgroup; even if that means messing with the mana base!
@DemonicExecuter This question is always hard, and tends to be heavily affected by your playgroup. If your playgroup doesn't abuse flying creatures, you could probably get away with replacing 2-4x Plague Stinger for 2-4x Ichorclaw Myr; otherwise I wouldn't bother with Ichorclaw Myr. On the other side, replacing the 4x Septic Rats for 4x Phyrexian Crusader should be a safe bet in all situations (same CMC, same stats, better effects). Finding the proper card to replace with Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon is kind of tricky, but I'd say 1x Kulrath Knight. I honestly would say as awesome as it sounds, a 2BB Black Sun's Zenith would eliminate 14 out of the 22 creatures in this deck (if un-buffed by Hand of the Praetors); not to say it couldn't work, but you'd have to build with it in mind.
@ShadowFire1 this question really boils down to Contagion Engine vs Contagion Clasp - I'd say the clasp wins out simply because it's faster and doesn't have the potential of clogging your hand as much in the early stages; its a 2 mana Scar that will later be used to proliferate. The 4 extra mana on the engine changes the targeted -1/-1 to apply to all of a target player's creatures, which just feels more clunky than helpful imo.
3 months ago
You will want Hand of the Praetors
5 months ago
Any creature that doesn't do -1counters is probably worth cutting. Anathemancer, Hand of the Praetors, Mogis, God of Slaughter, Murderous Redcap, Ogre Slumlord, Ob Nixilis Reignited, Wrecking Ball, Veinfire Borderpost are all worth cutting. 4 of them should become land (totals to 37 lands). Others can stay maybe especially the better creatures like mogis or Ob potentially. I say cut Hand of the Praetors because most creatures don't have infect. Wither definitely is better for this deck.
Here is a link to my deck that I play from the Scorpion God. It might give you some good ideas, maybe not.
5 months ago
Fist off Phyrexian Crusader cant be pathed cant be bolted, first strike, why not. Glistening Oil can help with your curve.Plague Myr can help with mana a little, heck Plague Stinger can even get the poison rolling if you want to proliferate. Viridian Corrupter can help with pesky artifacts and still has infect. Suspend Festering March perhaps? If you were to add some more infect creatures lord them with Hand of the Praetors. Low mana curve wither Juvenile Gloomwidow.