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Dead of Winter
Sorcery
All nonsnow creatures get -X/-X until end of turn, where X is the number of snow permanents you control.
capwner on Snowbrawling ((MODERN // Competitive Sultai Snow))
2 months ago
legendofa The manabase generally feels pretty good, sometimes I am unhappy to see a tap land as it can effectively mean losing a turn, but the main concerns I've found are color fixing and maintaining snow perm count, where falling short could mean losing out on several plays or interactions. I cut a Scrying Sheets because of this, might cut Mouth of Ronom too but I like being able to toolbox with Into the North a bit. It was hard for me to add the Breeding Pool+Watery Grave because of snow count but I think it's necessary to be able to find untapped colors with Lorien. It would be nice to run 4 Lorien but the list was getting tight and I wanted to keep at least 3 ofs for some key sideboard cards. The deck does have a lot of 4 drops but 4 of those are Subtlety which is a flexible card and I think a real necessity in this meta. The deck feels like it curves pretty well, you are likely to have at least a couple 1 and 2 drops and the ability to either Blizzard Brawl or Dead of Winter or Subtlety or flash Ice-Fang Coatl to stall the board until your big 4 drops can hit. Or Force of Negation/Subtlety/Commandeer vs THOSE decks. Turn 2 Into the North feels really good, curves into 5/5 Treefolk or Coatl/Brawl with no land drop. I wish it was snow then I would run more. I think in a lot of matchups it ultimately comes down to who can out attrition the other, and the snow scry mechanic REALLY helps with that. Vs Yawgmoth I can aggro/tempo them out with Treefolk and Subtlety, vs Murktide I'm running them out of removal, clearing with Dead of Winter and when the game is stalled Avalanche Caller or a 7/7 Treefolk ends it. I haven't had a Rhinos match come up yet but the plan is to simply outmatch and outcontrol their board with Treefolk + killing/commandeering the rhinos. I'll likely update the description with some more specific matchup and card selection info over the next couple weeks! Thanks for the feed
Profet93 on The Dark Brotherhood - Rogues & Riches
4 months ago
TBF, you do have tragic slip and toxic deluge which should get around almost any indestructible creature. Mutilate and Dead of Winter (snow lands) are alternatives as well.
Given you have no way to remove artifacts or enchantments (aside from feed the swarm for enchantments), have you considered adding All is Dust? It gets around indestructible as well (not colorless ones though).
Is there a budget? Shizo, Death's Storehouse, and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth are all solid options.
Skullclamp - You need more draw. I understand your commander draws you cards but you don't always have access to it when it dies 2-3+ times.
Imp's Mischief - Redirect targeted removal, draw, extra turns and can "counter" counterspells.
While not an entirely serious suggestion Vedalken Orrery and Emergence Zone are potential considerations to allow you to flash in black market or better yet, revel in riches.
Profet93 on Devotion to Darkness - Erebos Control
4 months ago
Not an entirely serious suggestion but worth considering potentially.....
Dead of Winter - I see you're running snow swamps.
Crystal Chimes - Given 20% of your deck is enchantments, it could help you rebuild after an inevitable wipe.
Cut recommendation - Profane tutor. In the early game its great. Mid game it leaves a lot to be desired. Late game is terrible. I've never had a good experience with that card.
Potential swap - Vampiric Tutor
Suspence89 on Winter's Cold
11 months ago
Marit Lage's Slumber is fun Dead of Winter Is kinda busted for its cost and sometimes your big dudes will outsize the negative Kruphix, God of Horizons and Horizon Stone Doubling Cube to help bank your excess mana you'll be making Cultivate and Kodama's Reach because there isn't a better ramp spell Heroic Intervention Big Bois Hydra Broodmaster Neverwinter Hydra Corpsejack Menace to enable Zaxara, the Exemplary Polukranos, World Eater Primordial Hydra Altered Ego Tervigon Termagant Swarm Drawing Cards Blue Sun's Zenith Pull from Tomorrow Inspiring Call also doubles as a board protector Stroke of Genius Return of the Wildspeaker Rishkar's Expertise Soul's Majesty Momentous Fall Cut of the Profits Life's Legacy
Crow_Umbra on Board Wipes for Commander
11 months ago
They're not full wipes, but Slaughter the Strong and Promise of Loyalty for White.
A bit more niche, but Dead of Winter is basically a Toxic Deluge for Black adjacent Snow utilizing strategies.
wallisface on Jorn's Snakes and the Snakebitten Undead
1 year ago
Some thoughts:
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The big payoffs for playing all-snow are Marit Lage's Slumber and Dead of Winter. I would expect to see both of these cards here (ideally 2x Slumber, 4x DoW).
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Some of your cards are too situational to be useful. Specifically Annul and Tangletrap are just going to be dead-cards in a lot of games - i’d suggest ditching them.
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I’d also suggest ditching all your current enchants - Rime Transfusion, Winter's Rest, and Withercrown all just seem far too weak.
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you should really be playing either Mana Leak or Counterspell rather than Anticognition - which has too narrow an application.
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Rimebound Dead feels very weak, and only useful defensively. Zombie Musher also does very little for its mana cost. Better creatures include Abominable Treefolk, Priest of the Haunted Edge, and Frost Augur
multimedia on Muldrotha Snow: The Frozen Forest
1 year ago
Hey, well done with such a low budget, The Undead Forest is a cool deck name. Interesting deck idea for your first Commander deck with Muldrotha, but why snow? Weathered Runestone completely shuts down Muldrotha.
Marit Lage's Slumber, Jorn, God of Winter Flip, Priest of the Haunted Edge, Blood on the Snow, Ice-Fang Coatl these are some reasons to play snow with Muldrotha. Iceberg Cancrix can repeatable self-mill and that's a good effect with Muldrotha. Pilfering Hawk can be repeatable loot which gets cards into your graveyard. Unfortunately, this isn't many cards.
Draugr Necromancer is a good card with snow, but it doesn't have much interaction with Muldrotha. Dead of Winter is another good card with snow, but Muldrotha is not a snow creature. Narfi, Betrayer King is fine, able to reanimate itself with snow, but he's support for snow not really a reason to play snow.
Some advice to consider is to play nonsnow cards that can put snow-covered permanents (lands) onto the battlefield to meet the snow requirement for snow cards without playing lots of unnecessary snow creatures. The best way to get snow permanents is with snow-covered lands. You really don't need lots of other subpar snow creatures here.
- Frostweb Spider
- Saddled Rimestag
- Zombie Musher
- Frostpeak Yeti
- Grim Draugr
- Rimebound Dead
- Boreal Centaur
- Hailstorm Valkyrie
- Frost Raptor
- Avalanche Caller
- Boreal Outrider
- Frost Augur
All these creatures could be cut to improve your deck.
Instead of playing lots of lesser snow creatures, play just the better snow creatures here?
- Ascendant Spirit
- Iceberg Cancrix
- Ice-Fang Coatl
- Pilfering Hawk
- Priest of the Haunted Edge
- Jorn, God of Winter Flip
- Ohran Viper
- Abominable Treefolk
- Draugr Necromancer
- Icebreaker Kraken
Use other deck slots for cards that can search for and get snow-covered lands onto the battlefield?
- Sakura-Tribe Elder
- Font of Fertility
- Wayfarer's Bauble
- Diligent Farmhand
- Dawntreader Elk
- Springbloom Druid
- Binding the Old Gods
- Khalni Heart Expedition
- Evolving Wilds
- Terramorphic Expanse
Consider adding some spells that are not permanents that can search for and put snow-covered lands onto the battlefield?
- Harrow
- Into the North: can get a snow-covered dual land.
Cards that can get snow-covered lands into your hand as well as get cards into your graveyard can be helpful with Muldrotha.
Could also add some snow mana rocks and mana dorks?
Land ramp for snow-covered lands and mana from mana rocks is more ramp which also helps to cast 6 mana Muldrotha as well as having more mana to cast permanents from your graveyard when you control Muldrotha.
Example of a budget more refined creature base with snow.
- Ascendant Spirit
- Diligent Farmhand
- Dawntreader Elk
- Iceberg Cancrix
- Ice-Fang Coatl
- Lotus Cobra
- Pilfering Hawk
- Priest of the Haunted Edge
- Rime Tender
- Sakura-Tribe Elder
- Satyr Wayfinder
- Sculptor of Winter
- Jorn, God of Winter Flip
- Ohran Viper
- Springbloom Druid
- Abominable Treefolk
- Draugr Necromancer
- Icebreaker Kraken
Good luck with your deck.
wallisface on Kaldheim: Narfi and Jorn
1 year ago
Some thoughts:
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Most modern decks can’t justify running more than 3-4 cards costing 4 mana, and often run nothing above this cost. You’ve got a whopping 15 cards costing 4-or more, which is faar too much and going to lead to some very slow plays. I’d suggest reducing the curve significantly.
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there are a bunch of strong cards from MH1 that could help your deck play a LOT stronger. Namely Ice-Fang Coatl, Marit Lage's Slumber, Dead of Winter, and possibly Abominable Treefolk.
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2 mana is kindof the absolute most you want to pay for a generic killspell, so i’d advise against Poison the Cup. Fatal Push would serve you much better.
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