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|Commander 2013 (C13)||Uncommon|
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Artifact Creature — Construct
At the beginning of each opponent's upkeep, Viseling deals X damage to that player, where X is the number of cards in his or her hand minus 4.
4 weeks ago
what an awesome deck, its really impressive. I will try to build a budget version, of it. But I have small question for my own understanding. First, isn't Wheel and Deal banned in EDH? Does Viseling really works? For me it looks a bit slow. What are your experiences with this card? And what are your experiences with cards like Forced Fruition or Seizan, Perverter of Truth ? They looking really powerful but flow as well.
Thumbs up! Great Deck and I am really interested to hear about your experiences. Semsandberg
1 month ago
Philoctetes I added the following cards because I already have them or they are cheap: Caged Sun , Ivory Tower , Thaumatic Compass Flip, Basalt Monolith , Clever Impersonator , Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur , Viseling , As Foretold , Mystical Tutor , Swan Song , Terrain Generator .
Ahh and I took this card Sunstone , because I do not have snows lands and ~27 are a little pricey for me.
4 months ago
Moving away a bit from high cost ramp, mill, and limited effect draw/discard.
6 months ago
@Clyde_Bankston additionally, I’m not a huge fan of Howling Mine or Kami of the Crescent Moon as they let my opponents take advantage of the card draw before they let me. Consecrated Sphinx I can afford, but I’m not sure what to take out for it. Viseling is cute, but a 2/2 in my meta dies quick against Hapatra
6 months ago
7 months ago
Gotta love a nice Nekusar deck!
You have Fate Unraveler in the Maybe, I would move that to the main without hesitation.
To make space I would take out anything relating to discard and life gain, they look stretched thin across the deck and seem to be diluting the synergy.
All suggestions are from my deck Drawing Your Last Breath, please feel free to look and comment!
10 months ago
Also, you can draw all you deck (and mill your opponents) with Mind Over Matter + Temple Bell .
1 year ago
Depends on what you want to do. Seizan seems more focused on the discarding of all cards your opponents draw because you get effects like Liliana's Caress and Megrim. Kami wants everyone to draw cards and is more of a group hug than slug commander.
Personally I'd go with Seizan because you get access to more powerful tutors and board wipes in addition to more punishment when letting your opponents draw. Most of the cards that help punish card draw in Kami are artifacts like Viseling or Black Vise so you're just missing out on lots of artifact tutors.
Viseling occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.0%