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, Sacrifice Phyrexian Plaguelord: Target creature gets -4/-4 until end of turn.
Sacrifice a creature: Target creature gets -1/-1 until end of turn.
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Phyrexian Plaguelord Discussion
4 weeks ago
I agree about running Ashnod's Altar. Its just a good card all-around, and the number of sac outlets you have is concerning, at least to me. You mentioned earlier that you have "too many sac outlets," but that really isn't the case; you have four: Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord, Viscera Seer, and the Nantuko Husk and Phyrexian Ghoul that you added. The rest of the cards you list in your "Sacrifice" list aren't sac outlets, per se; they are cards that offer edict effects, which are good, but aren't sac outlets in and of themselves. There is a difference. That doesn't mean they aren't good, useful cards, because they are. But they aren't a sac outlet.
They say the best things in life are free, and free sac outlets are the best kind. The altars, Ashnod's Altar and Phyrexian Altar are the best, hands down, for Meren. They provide early ramp, allowing you to get Meren out ahead of time, and once she hits the board, its easy to stack up two or three counters per turn with them. That is, if you have enough early drop creatures to sac to them. Free-sac-on-a-stick is the next best thing, cards like the Ghoul and Husk that you added, and cards like Carrion Feeder, Phyrexian Plaguelord (which doubles as removal), and Yahenni, Undying Partisan offer great options as well. You could even consider running Altar of Dementia as another option, which you can use to mill yourself or your opponents, which is probably better than Deadbridge Chant, but running both would be ok. Jarad is a nice sac outlet, too, but he's better in the mid to late game, as he isn't a free sac outlet. Having a good package of sac outlets allows you to make sure you have consistency in the early game.
In my Meren deck, I run 15 one-drops, 12 two-drops, and 16 three-drops, and mainly finishes through combo. That mana curve allows the deck to take off fast, and stay consistent. I'm sure I've got some changes I need to make to it, but by and large, the deck runs well, and is easily my best, most consistent deck, because of the low mana curve. Early on, I think a lot of people played Commander thinking the mana curve didn't really matter. As time has gone on, that has proven to not be the case.
At any rate, I don't want it to sound like I'm just trying to cut down your deck; I'm not. I like Meren builds, and there are always fun and different ways of doing things. You just want to be sure that if you take you deck out into the wild, it will hold its own in an environment you've never played in before.
1 month ago
Right off the bat there's some automatic includes I like to run in Golgari colors - those cards usually include some powerful effects that can effect the whole board with very little cost to you.
One of the biggest strengths black has is the ability to use what are referred to as Edict effects, which is a reference to a card called Diabolic Edict that forces your opponents to sacrifice creatures. This is powerful because no matter what you will trade a creature of yours for a creature of EACH opponent's - that's a one-for-three trade which gives you a sizable card advantage. Also sacrificing gets through pesky strategies like Indestructible or Hexproof from your opponents' commanders (chances are your opponents are going to try to protect their commanders very well).
For creatures that can do this easily, ordered from most favorite to least, Plaguecrafter, Merciless Executioner/Fleshbag Marauder (they are identical), lastly Slum Reaper. Slum Reaper is a bit more expensive but it's useful if you need more consistency of killing enemy creatures. If you REALLY want to push your opponents' creatures Butcher of Malakir can make sure no creature stays on the battlefield for very long as long as you constantly have creatures to throw into the graveyard.
You also have options in enchantments that can do this effect as well. Grave Pact and Dictate of Erebos are solid options, but should only be seriously considered if you're focusing on a sacrifice theme.
Secondly, I like adding sacrifice outlets. They are powerful additions that give you an out whenever you're dealing with targeted or mass creature removal. Ideally you want your sacrifice outlets to be free, so cards like Ashnod's Altar, Altar of Dementia, Carrion Feeder, and Viscera Seer will make sure you never get nothing from a creature dying on your side of the battlefield. Other options that can play well with Vhati il-Dal are Phyrexian Plaguelord who can turn your creatures into a -1/-1 for a creature that you weaken with Vhati's activated ability. If you're going with a creature-focused combat damage strategy Evolutionary Leap and Mycoloth are good options to trade your weaker creatures for more powerful options.
I'll list some overall good cards to add for Golgari colors, as well. Ramp (Named for Rampant Growth. These are cards that generate more mana for a small investment.)
- Sakura-Tribe Elder
- Kodama's Reach
- Explosive Vegetation
- Wood Elves
- Skyshroud Claim
- Solemn Simulacrum
- Golgari Signet
- Darksteel Ingot
- Cultivator's Caravan
- Sol Ring
- Eternal Witness
- Golgari Findbroker
- Journey to Eternity Flip
- Dread Return
- Find / Finality
- Living Death
- Hero's Downfall
- Malicious Affliction
- Unravel the Aether
- Acidic Slime
- Reclamation Sage
- Krosan Grip
- Beast Within
These are all just some ideas I hope they help you tone the deck into the direction you want it to go into.
1 month ago
Phyrexian Plaguelord can give you that effect.
1 month ago
bushido_man96 Thanks for the suggestions. Ashnods alter and Phyrexian Altar were both cards I considered putting into the deck, but discarded them because I wanted to run more creature that synergized with Meren's recursion ability. When playing this deck though I have noticed that I want more permanent Sac outlets like Viscera Seer. I ran Fleshbag Marauder and Merciless Executioner because I could sacrifice them with their ETB effect and force opponents to sacrifice a creature but it is a one time deal until I can recur them. I do like Phyrexian Plaguelord and the fact he can help with removal but I don't think he will fit in as well because of the higher CMC. I will try to work out ways to include Nantuko Husk and Phyrexian Ghoul though because at 3 CMC being able to recur them is easier if I need to and can help me start sacrificing creatures sooner. Thanks again for comment!
1 month ago
I love recursion builds, and I am especially fond of Meren.
I think you might need some more sac outlets to really make sure things run smoothly. Ashnod's Altar is nearly a staple in a Meren deck, and you'll have no shortage of fodder for it. Tapping a Llanowar Elves and then sacrificing it for 2 more mana has its advantages, and then you get the Elf back at the end of the turn with Meren out. Phyrexian Altar is also great, if you can afford to get one. Other good sac outlets include Nantuko Husk and Phyrexian Ghoul. Phyrexian Plaguelord can turn into a removal nightmare. The more free sac outlets you can have to use with Meren, the smoother and more consistent your deck will run.
1 month ago
First things first: Spore Frog is an all star in this deck.
This deck looks like it wants to make tokens and sac them off. Carrion Feeder and Viscera Seer are great budget sac outlets. I’d also recommend Phyrexian Plaguelord since you can convert tokens into -X/-X to remove stuff. This is noteworthy because -X/-X effects will kill indestructible creatures where normal damage and effects that use the word “destroy” will not. Also note that if you are trying to destroy a God such as Erebos, he needs to become a creature before you are able to get rid of him. Since you have Zulaport Cutthroat, you should also use Blood Artist.
Now, you need tokens to sac off. Avenger of Zendikar is your best option. Hornet Queen creates a small army of deathtouch fliers. Mycoloth wants to eat all nonessential creatures so he can generate an army at the start of each of your turns. Mitotic Slime is als great with Meren since it lets you build experience counters and generate tokens to sac off. Army of the Damned is an army in a can and can be abused by tossing Eterbal Witness in and out of the graveyard. Ghoulcaller Gisa is a very good choice if you’re looking to sac off Avenger of Zendikar repeatedly.
Ramp is a cornerstone of every deck with green in it. Sakura Tribe Elder is good, but you want Rampant Growth, Cultivate, Kodama's Reach, and Explosive Vegetation. You cannot really abuse these with Meren unless you sac and reanimate Eternal Witness, but they are essential for making sure you get the correct colors you need when you need them. If you want to be cheeky, you can run Abundance as well to guarantee land drops when you need them or skip lands when you don’t need them.
Card draw is necessary here. Regal Force is a great follow up once you’ve made an army of creatures. Skeletal Scrying, Read the Bones, Night's Whisper. Don’t wince at the cost in life, 2 life here and there does not matter when you have 40 life.
Board wipes will level the playing field if you fall behind. Necromantic Selection, Decree of Pain, and Black Sun's Zenith are viable options here. You can wipe and rebuild faster than your opponents more likely than not, so pull the trigger if you feel like you are losing or falling behind.
1 month ago
I know that it is a little pricier but i would highly suggest a Doubling Season in this deck. Some other really good sack outlet's i would give a try would be Viscera Seer, Vish Kal, Blood Arbiter, Blasting Station and Phyrexian Plaguelord. Some other removal that you could use would be Puppeteer Clique, Luminate Primordial and Martial Coup
1 month ago
Don't know much about artifact sac outlets but as far as creature sac outlets go there's Viscera Seer, Carrion Feeder, Yahenni, Undying Partisan, Blood Bairn, Nantuko Husk, Spawning Pit, Bloodthrone Vampire, Vampiric Rites, Disciple of Griselbrand, Altar's Reap, and Bone Splinters, Hell's Caretaker, Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim, Phyrexian Plaguelord, and Whisper, Blood Liturgist off the top of my head. There's also Phyrexian Altar but it's not cheap. You can probably find more of these effects as well as artifact sac effects on gatherer.