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multimedia on The Best Urza
3 months ago
Hey, well done work in progress for your first Commander deck on a budget. Good card sense upgrading the precon.
For the manabase consider upgrades of the Pain lands?
The Pain lands have been reprinted in the last two Standard sets, making them the least expensive right now. Now is the best time to get them since they will only increase in price as time goes on. Tyrite Sanctum is a nice budget utility land especially with The Flesh is Weak.
I'm playing Urza on a low budget and these are some cards, most less than $2, that I've found to be helpful.
- Ornithopter of Paradise: artifact creature for ramp.
- The Flesh is Weak: make Urza and all other creatures you control at the time an artifact. -1/-1 can wreck opponent's nonThopter token strategies who can be blockers against Constructs. Tyrite Sanctum makes it so you don't have to control nonartifact legendary creatures including Urza when you play Weak since it can put a +1/+1 counter on any legendary creature you control turns after to make it an artifact.
- Liquimetal Torque: mana rock for ramp or make Urza or any other nonland permanent an artifact. Pair with Master Transmuter to bounce any nonland permanent.
- Soundwave, Sonic Spy Flip: new Transformers card that's good in multiplayer Commander, no mana cost to cast your choice of opponent's instant or sorcery. Constructs make it consistent to trigger with a high mana value and Soundwave, Superior Captain can be a repeatable source of artifacts.
- Sculpting Steel: good in multiplayer Commander because it can be any artifact on the battlefield and it can change with Master Transmuter bounce.
- Armix, Filigree Thrasher: because of menace it can be repeatable opponent creature removal, Losheel, Clockwork Scholar helps a lot too.
Being able to make Urza an artifact can make Urza a threat with menace to do Commander damage especially with Cranial Plating. Urza surviving nonartifact creature board wipes can give you a huge advantage. Making other nonartifact creatures an artifact is good too especially Padeem, Consul of Innovation for much more protection.
Some cards to consider cutting:
- Orzhov Basilica, Dimir Aqueduct, Azorius Chancery, Skycloud Expanse
- Filigree Attendant, Darksteel Juggernaut, Etched Champion
- Gingerbrute, Burnished Hart
- Chief of the Foundry
Filigree Attendant, Darksteel Juggernaut, Etched Champion are just beaters, they don't do anything else. You don't really need them since you'll have plenty of better beaters, Constructs, who don't cost mana. Burnished Hart is slow for ramp. Chief of the Foundry is subpar for an anthem effect, it's a lesser Master of Etherium.
Good luck with your deck.
multimedia on Breya, "Brothers war? I Barely Know Her"
4 months ago
Hey, you left out highlighting or explaining the best infinite combo with Urza you have here. Urza + Myr Battlesphere + Ashnod's Altar = infinite Myrs, infinite colorless mana, infinite copies of all artifacts you control and infinite damage to each player with Breya.
Nice version so far on a semi budget, but build around the Urza + Battlesphere + Altar combo with more protection? Consider more combo protection? Urza + Battlesphere + Altar combo can be activated at instant speed at any time as long as you control all three permanents and have 6 colorless mana available. You're going to want more than 6 colorless mana if you intend to activate the combo though because you'll also want instant protection.
- Spellskite --> Armillary Sphere
- Counterspell --> Burnished Hart
- Boros Charm --> Indomitable Creativity
- Stubborn Denial --> Fateful Handoff
Darksteel Forge and Padeem, Consul of Innovation can protect Altar + Battlesphere, but they can't protect Urza without additional effect to make Urza an artifact. In the combo Urza is also not leaving the battlefield making him much easier to protect.
Assembling combos in Breya is made much easier with Wishclaw Talisman and because it's an artifact it has insane interaction with Breya. You can sac Wishclaw before opponent gains control of it, but still tutor for your card. When you activate Wishclaw it puts the entire effect as one trigger onto the stack. In response sac Wishclaw, putting it into your graveyard, then when you resolve Wishclaw trigger you tutor for your card, but opponent doesn't gain control of Wishclaw because it's no longer on the battlefield. Pair Wishclaw with Goblin Welder, Emry, Lurker of the Loch, Goblin Engineer or any other artifact recursion/reanimation source for a repeatable tutor.
- Wishclaw Talisman --> Cityscape Leveler
- Emry, Lurker of the Loch --> Tezzeret the Schemer
- Goblin Engineer --> Urza, Powerstone Prodigy
Master Transmuter is powerful with high CMC artifacts especially when she can help assemble combos Darksteel Forge and Myr Battlesphere. It's also nice with Breya as a source to create more Thopters for 1 mana or to abuse any other artifact that has an ETB ability.
- Master Transmuter --> Slagstone Refinery
Consider more Pain lands and Artifact lands? They could replace some basic lands to improve color fixing/Breya interaction which can help gameplay. 23 basic lands is a lot in a four color deck.
- Spire of Industry --> 1x Swamp
- Shivan Reef --> 1x Mountain
- Adarkar Wastes --> 1x Plains
- Caves of Koilos --> 1x Swamp
- Battlefield Forge --> 1x Plains
- Sulfurous Springs --> 1x Mountain
- Ancient Den --> 1x Plains
- Vault of Whispers --> 1x Swamp
Good luck with your deck.
multimedia on Breya Budget EDH
4 months ago
Hey, well done version on a budget.
If you like Thopters and want to make your deck more competitive then consider adding the budget Sword + Foundry combo? Sword of the Meek + Thopter Foundry creates Thopters equal to the amount of mana you have available. Foundry sacs Sword, moving Sword to graveyard, Foundry creates a 1/1 Thopter which then returns Sword to the battlefield attached to the Thopter and repeat. Even without Foundry, Sword is a good artifact with Breya for sac fodder because it can return to the battlefield.
- Sword of the Meek --> Jor Kadeen, the Prevailer
- Thopter Foundry --> Master Trinketeer
If you add Ashnod's Altar to Sword of the Meek + Thopter Foundry then it's a combo to create infinite Thopters. Create infinite Thopters on an opponent's turn and then attack with them on your next turn to win or attack with them you're same turn with Thopter Engineer. Each time you sac a Thopter with Altar you make enough mana to activate Foundry twice. One Thopter is saced to make colorless mana and the other isn't, results in creating infinite Thopters and infinite colorless mana. Altar was just reprinted in the latest set Brothers War (BRO), Retro Artifacts version (BRR), it's down to $5.
Breya and her Thopters can be a wincon with Ashnod's Altar + Nim Deathmantle combo. Because Breya can sac herself to do 3 damage to a player then this can enable Deathmantle to repeatedly return her to the battlefield resulting in doing infinite damage to each opponent, 3 damage at a time. Altar sacs a Thopter + Breya which makes 4 mana and when Breya dies it triggers Deathmantle. Pay the 4 to return Breya to the battlefield and repeat. It's great for synergy that all these combo pieces are artifacts making it much easier to assemble them.
- Ashnod's Altar --> Master of Etherium
- Nim Deathmantle --> Tezzeret the Schemer
Wishclaw Talisman is busted with Breya because it's an artifact, she can sac it along with any other artifact before an opponent gains control of it. When you activate Wishclaw that puts the entire effect on the stack. In response to this, activate Breya and sac Wishclaw. When you resolve the Wishclaw trigger you search for your card, put it into your hand and since Wishclaw is no longer on the battlefield then an opponent doesn't gain control of it, it instead is in your graveyard to be recurred. Wishclaw is great with Emry, Lurker of the Loch and Goblin Welder for a repeatable tutor.
- Wishclaw Talisman --> Treasure Keeper
I see Unwinding Clock here which is good with Master Transmuter because it's an artifact and it taps for it's ability. Transmuter has a unique powerful effect because of the way it's worded, it doesn't target, you can return the same artifact you bounce to your hand right back to the battlefield. With Clock + Breya you can create two Thopters on each player's turn equal to the number of players. Transmuter is also great to cheat high CMC artifacts onto the battlefield by bouncing any artifact you control. Especially high CMC artifacts if they have an ETB ability such as Myr Battlesphere to keep creating Myrs, Spine of Ish Sah to keep destroying opponent permanents, Thought Monitor for repeatable draw, etc.
- Master Transmuter --> Alela, Artful Provocateur
- Thought Monitor --> Sphinx Summoner
Making some land changes within your budget can make your deck more competitive by cutting some lands that always ETB tapped for lands that don't. The Pain lands and other lands like them are excellent budget lands especially when your Commander can gain life. They ETB untapped to make colorless mana or you take 1 damage to make a colored mana. The Pains have been reprinted in the last two Standard sets making them the least expensive right now. You can also start to find some Pain lands in new Commander precons which is a welcomed manabase upgrade.
- Spire of Industry --> Evolving Wilds
- Underground River --> Dimir Aqueduct
- Shivan Reef --> Terramorphic Expanse
- Adarkar Wastes --> Azorius Chancery
- Caves of Koilos --> Temple of Deceit
- Battlefield Forge --> Boros Garrison
- Sulfurous Springs --> Rakdos Carnarium
Good luck with your deck.
wallisface on Yorions gone - what cards …
5 months ago
So, this is my current thinking for this list - basically moving Thalia to the sideboard, and trimming some cards i’d rather not see multiples of. Also ditching Ephemerate:
3x Marsh Flats
4x Aether Vial
DaringApprentice on Are You Sure You Want to Do That? V2
5 months ago
I'm well, hope you are, too! I don't have quite enough time as I thought I might to go through an in-depth suggestion process, but I've put the highlights below:
Fixing Lands: Path of Ancestry, Exotic Orchard, Caves of Koilos, Vivid Meadow, Vivid Marsh, Vivid Crag, Thriving Heath, Thriving Moor, Thriving Bluff, Citadel Gate, Black Dragon Gate
Utility Lands: Bojuka Bog, Hagra Mauling Flip, Sanctum of Eternity
Card Draw: Morbid Opportunist, Smothering Abomination, Necrologia
Targeted Removal: Wild Magic Surge, Chaos Warp, Oblation, Mortify, Vindicate, Mangara of Corondor, Transmogrifying Wand, Nahiri, the Harbinger, Curtains' Call
Board Wipes: Out of Time, Kaya's Wrath, Depopulate, Shatter the Sky, Nevinyrral's Disk, Sublime Exhalation
Selective Board Wipes: Slaughter the Strong, Divine Reckoning, Cataclysmic Gearhulk, Sculpted Sunburst, Single Combat
Synergy Cards: Braids, Arisen Nightmare, Magus of the Abyss, Anowon, the Ruin Sage, Ruthless Winnower, Ogre Slumlord
Vicarian on Raffine Metaschemer
6 months ago
It looks like you might have a lot of trouble coming up with a blue source, when nearly half of your mana symbols are blue. Land bases are unfortunately expensive, but it looks like some of your dual-colored lands weren't that necessary. I copied your deck and experimented a bit: 1x Adarkar Wastes 4x Deserted Beach 3x Evolving Wilds 7x Island 3x Plains 4x Raffine's Tower 3x Tranquil Cove
You're needing 1x Adarkar Wastes and 3x Deserted Beach over what you've already got, which shouldn't be too rough on the wallet. Could potentially trade the Caves of Koilos 1:1 for the Wastes.
As far as counterspells go, as a cruel control player, I'll let most critters hit the field, then remove them at instant speed. I keep my counterspells for more dangerous things, like walkers or annoying creatures that have powerful ETB effects, or huge Enchantments.
DemonDragonJ on 100 Shades of Gray
6 months ago
I have replaced Scoured Barrens with Caves of Koilos, since having a dual land enter the battlefield untapped is more important than is gaining life, and the entire theme of this deck is gaining life, so the life loss from that land should not be a problem.
DemonDragonJ on Scoured Barrens or Tainted Field?
6 months ago
multimedia, you actually have a very good point, and Caves of Koilos was just reprinted, so its price should be low, although, if WotC ever prints enemy-colored versions of the "battle lands" (i.e., Canopy Vista, Cinder Glade, and so forth), I will unquestionably put the black/white land in this deck.
FartSeize, I need swamps to synergize with Castle Locthwain and plains to synergize with Emeria, The Sky Ruin.
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