Sage's Row Denizen
Creature — Vedalken Wizard
Whenever another blue creature enters the battlefield under your control, target player puts the top two cards of their library into their graveyard.
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|Core Set 2020 (M20)||Common|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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Sage's Row Denizen Discussion
1 month ago
Hi, I just recently brewed up a Tatyova list that is aiming to be competitive and I wanted to ask about a few of your choices. I acknowledge that you have likely tested and played this deck more often but I am mostly curious about some of your card choices and the direction that you took this list. You can find my deck here: ~PDH~ When Lands Came to Value Town (Tatyova)
Why do you include so much card draw? I actually run zero spells or otherwise that draw me cards other than lands through Tatyova. When I first was putting the list together I had a bunch in the form of Ponder, Gush, and so on but ended up cutting them for other cards.
Some of your Land fetchings spells just seem bad. I don't mean to offend but cards like Nature's Lore, Search for Tomorrow, Shoreline Ranger, Spoils of Victory, Farseek, Kodama's Reach and Rampant Growth just don't seem worth it to me. Instead of some of these fetch spells, I run 40 lands. I was also surprised that you are not running Dreamscape Artist (Springbloom Druid just seems like a worse version). It's like a repeatable Harrow and gets you two Tatyova triggers. I would argue that that card is one of the most powerful cards in my deck behind Tatyova ofc and Mystic Sanctuary.
I decided to include more utility lands such as Bojuka Bog, Khalni Garden, and Sejiri Steppe. This decision on my part to include these was in spite of some of them not being in Green Blue but I though their value outweighs that downside. Bojuka Bog for example is better than Relic of Progenitus in this deck because you can flash it in with a creature like Walking Atlas and exile a target players bin and draw a card like relic. The thing is though that Bog is repeatable through your creatures that bounce your lands. Sejiri Steppe is similar in the way that its repeatable protection for Tatyova or another important creature.
I noticed you only ran 1 land bouncing creature. In my deck, these guys power much of the value. With them and Halimar Depths I can basically ponder each turn at least once, it allows me to repeat the ETB effects that I mentioned above, and It also allows me to get a land drop in if I missed one for some reason. Floodbringer, Oboro Breezecaller, Soratami Rainshaper are the ones I run in addition.
Now a few suggestions I have: Whispersilk Cloak, Power Sink, Universal Solvent, Vines of Vastwood, Scaretiller, Explorer's Scope (This works well in conjunction with Adventuring Gear and Aqueous Form), Seat of the Synod and Tree of Tales can be tutored with Trinket Mage, Library of Leng, Stone-Seeder Hierophant/Krosan Restorer, Spidersilk Armor (So the majority of your board doesn't die to Shrivel, Electrickery or something like that and harder for Pestilence and Crypt Rats.) Also Snap can ramp you is you have a land that taps for two and same with Frantic Search if you do want to play cantrips. Another win-con that will win you the game as soon as you combo off is Sage's Row Denizen that is assuming that you are not using Mystic Sanctuary.
Thank you for hearing me out. I am sure that there is a good reason for many of the cards I just questioned and I am excited to hear them to understand your deck better. If you have questions about my choices and reasoning I would be more than happy to explain further. I am trying to make the best Tatyova deck that I can and just wanted to know why a list with a similar end goal is running certain cards that I cut out.
Lastly, I just wanted to say that after looking through your list I am considering running: Lull and Moment's Peace because sometimes this deck has a problem stabilizing early because my playgroup sees my deck as a very large threat. Merchant Scroll, I don't know why I was not running it. Mystic Remora and Rhystic Study are just too good to pass up and I probably should have been running them. I have just one problem and that would be cutting cards. I would apreciate it if you could take a look at my list and tell me what you think.
4 months ago
I'l try to help more later. Good Luck!
11 months ago
adding Sage's Row Denizen can also help get one more combo outlet with pester and kiki
1 year ago
I think the deck is split into Milling the opponent AND having some big creatures as a result of drawing. I think it'd be better to either go down the path of full mill or creatures + drawing cards (with Jace, Wielder of Mysteries as a win con). But right now I would personally remove Sage's Row Denizen , as you want to be playing cards that draw you cards/mill the opponent directly, Chasm Skulker again doesn't help you mill, Wall of Lost Thoughts , while this does mill, its a one off with no extra value which Hedron Crab can bring and Faerie Miscreant also doesn't help much, I think it'd be better to have other cards like Chemister's Insight to accelerate your draws for Drowned Secrets / Psychic Corrosion .
1 year ago
Lonelyyoshi1 The reason Mill decks work is because you strip your opponent's resources away from them before they can ever draw them. Basically, making someone mill is control. You want to be milling cards from your opponent every turn and right now you have two strategies in your deck. Creature and draw. the two strategies cross over with Psychic Corrosion , Hedron Crab , because both of those say "do something you're gonna do every turn and mill your opponent" Now the Creature strategy would be a focus on Sage's Row Denizen . Fewer spells and add value creatures. Merfolk Trickster , Cloudkin Seer , Frost Lynx , Fblthp, the Lost . I'm sure the great minds of this forum can list much better versions then i can but those are the few i know right now without google. The whole goal of this version would be to get Sage's Row Denizen out and play a "draw go" style unless you need to play a value creature. I would even run creature copying effects to really abuse the sage like Quasiduplicate , Mirror Image , Spark Double , Rite of Replication . you would have to drop most of your planeswalkers and maybe only keep Kasmina, Enigmatic Mentor and run other effects like Blink of an Eye , Callous Dismissal to out value your opponent until you can go nuclear with your sages. at least thats how i would do a creature version. The draw version focuses more on Psychic Corrosion and control. You would run instant speed draw spells like Opt , Radical Idea , Chemister's Insight so you can keep mana open to counter your opponent with Negate , Cancel , Wizard's Retort , Counterspell . You would be 100% draw go. Your turns would more or less be draw, play a land, trigger Hedron Crab , pass. then you counter your opponents spells. if they don't play anything scary you use all your mana at the end of their turn to use your draw spells and make them mill with Psychic Corrosion . you would want to play a bounce spell, recommend Unsummon and your Jace package to get free draws for the mill. Again, I've already shown i don't know the meta for modern so listen to the other guys commenting. The reason i don't like Jace, Arcane Strategist is because he's 6 cmc and doesn't really move you towards your game plan as fast as the other Jaces do. That is also giving your opponent a free turn with 6-7 mana where they don't have to worry about a counter spell. You could run Force of Negation but you are really taking a risk relying on 1 card to protect you so you can play a Jace that has 30% synergy with your deck. I'd rather play my second Psychic Corrosion and have mana up for Thought Collapse or Opt and Radical Idea . Ultimately it is your deck so have fun with it but these are my thoughts. If you would like i could probably use your card list to build two version of your deck and you can try both out.
1 year ago
Lonelyyoshi1 Looks better! I'm not high on Jace, Arcane Strategist , I feel like he doesn't work towards your milling game plan. I personally wasn't aware of Sphinx's Tutelage or Fraying Sanity that Kjartan suggested. Those would be awesome and keep you on curve. I also forgot about Ashiok, Dream Render . 3cmc planeswalker that mills four when he comes into play, he exiles your opponents graveyard, and stops opponent from searching is library. Now, i don't play a lot of modern but last i checked Arclight Phoenix was a popular deck. I remember seeing a recursion deck and i believe fetch lands are common. Lets just shut all of that down! Not sure how competitive you want to be but Ashiok, Dream Render would be a monster in this deck.
There are some other blue planeswalkers from war of the spark that could also be helpful. Narset, Parter of Veils Kasmina, Enigmatic Mentor Narset will stop card draw by your opponent and allow you to dig for mill pieces. Kasmina will help protect your creatures by taxing your opponent and she has synergy with Sage's Row Denizen and Psychic Corrosion . Not really suggesting but it's something to look at. Sorry for the wall of text....
1 year ago
Love the deck, any reason why we aren't playing Recruiter of the Guard ? Just as a good card by itself and part of the Aluren combo. Also, are Quirion Ranger and Scryb Ranger there to untap the dorks or is there also a combo that I'm missing?