Grenzo, Havoc Raiser

Legendary Creature — Goblin Rogue

Whenever a creature you control deals combat damage to a player, choose one —

• Goad target creature that player controls. (Until your next turn, those creatures attack each combat if able and attack a player other than you if able.)
• Exile the top card of that player's library. Until the end of turn, you may cast that card and you may spend mana as though it were mana of any colour to cast it.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Freeform	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Historic Brawl	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (51)

Worrad75 on Pia-tiful Impulse Control

5 months ago

The deck has been through quite a few iterations. Here are the changes at a macro level:

Interaction

Get Lost: flexible, cheap removal. Maps aren't so bad to gve because we're going FAST.

Case of the Gateway Express: getting a free anthem stapled to a Doom Blade is great. Sorcery speed is a downside but well worth it

Requisition Raid: Same as the Case above, but for artifacts + enchantments. Super nice that there's only 1 pip in the cost (Commander Liara Portyr can let us cast this from exile with all 3 modes for a single white mana!)

Damage

Delney, Streetwise Lookout, Mondrak, Glory Dominus, Stridehangar Automaton: Double tokens = good. Delney has overlapping synergy with a few notable cards (Professional Face-Breaker and Grenzo, Havoc Raiser chief amoung them) and is essentially exactly what we wanted from Cursed Mirror in the initial build but WAY better. The new build has a greater diversity of tokens as well, so Mondrak isnt just here to 2x Pia. Automaton doubling Pia AND triggering off of other artifact tokens is incredible (more on that below).

Illustrious Wanderglyph, Charismatic Conqueror, Dollmaker's Shop / Porcelain Gallery: token diversity is important to this deck; it helps take heat off of our commander (who previously was the only thing producing a meaningful boardstate), and offers us another way to make tokens if our exile plan isn't fully getting off the ground. Wanderglyph buffs our thopters and the Shop tokens (both have incredible synergy with Stridehangar Automaton), Conqueror's tokens give us a bit of much needed lifegain (and synergize with the newly added Case of the Gateway Express), but the biggest add here is the Shop: measly 2 mana investment up front for some free chump blockers/Impact Tremors triggers, and a MASSIVE threat whenever you have 6 mana for the Gallery. Its comically easy to attack with a handful of thopters and have EACH of them hit for 10+ damage, especially because on attack the 3 tokens you get essentially give +3/+3. thats a free Skyhunter Strike Force every turn!

Unstable Amulet, Warleader's Call: Impact Tremors is already a fantastic card that we run. Amulet is essentially a Tremors that also draws us a card and gives us a body thanks to Pia. Warleader's Call is a Tremors stapled to a Glorious Anthem. The passive burn damage with continue until morale improves!

Cards

Connecting the Dots: This seemingly innocuous card is an example of 'layering' at its finest. This deck's ability to build a boardstate is impressive, but it isn't the best at protecting it (using impulse draw as your primary advantage engine makes cards like the now-removed Boros Charm worse than they normally are, as you usually can't use them at the perfect time, and your opponents will see it coming). On top of that, you are usually "spending" the cards in your hand to exile cards from your deck; its not uncommon for this deck to impulse draw 3+ cards a turn while also only having <=3 cards actually in hand. Similar to Skullclamp, CtD allows you to convert your boardstate back into card advantage, but this time its 'delayed' and doesn't require continuous mana investment or for you to get rid of your creatures. Its not uncommon to swing out after playing this, get board-wiped on someone else's turn, only to crack this right before you untap and essentially draw 10+ cards to rebuild with. Low initial mana investment for a huge upside swing that refills the only resource we often get low on; cards in our actual hand.

CK500 on Never mind doing extra turns

6 months ago

Remove:

• Academic Dispute
• Dockside Extortionist (it's banned)
• Prosperous Bandit
• Commander's Sphere
• Cloud Key
• You've Been Caught Stealing
• Wily Goblin
• Devilish Valet

Add:

• Cursed Mirror
• Grenzo, Havoc Raiser
• Molten Gatekeeper
• Witty Roastmaster

NV_1980 on Kardur's Fight Club

9 months ago

Hi m8. If your strategy involves "Flood the board and have it all wreak havoc", would it make sense to include Grenzo, Havoc Raiser? Aside from literally abiding to your quote, he really is a force to be reckoned with if you can manage to damage your opposition. He either creates confusion in the opposing ranks (through goad) OR he grants you with some more casting options. Also wondering what your thoughts on Disrupt Decorum are, because it seems so attuned to Kardur's modus operandi.

NV_1980 on my krenko (+shinys)

10 months ago

Would recommend Umbral Mantle; excellent on Krenko, but even better when also combined with Ashnod's Altar or Mana Echoes for an infinite combo. Something similar can be said about Staff of Domination. Adding Aggravated Assault would also work very well if you can sacrifice your gobbos for coloured mana. Grenzo, Havoc Raiser is an often overlooked card in Krenko decks, and for the life of me I don't understand why because he has absolutely spectacular potential as a disruptor of opponents' carefully laid out plans AND card-advantage (through theft). Lastly, I highly recommend you mainboard Idol of Oblivion because red has few enough good card-advantage resources as it is and it's too good combined with Krenko's ability not to include it.

emask on Edward Kenway - Pirate Master

1 year ago

Dig it. City on Fire? Grenzo, Havoc Raiser?

NV_1980 on Thantis Masters of Combat

1 year ago

This looks really good! Have you considered Grenzo, Havoc Raiser? It would really work well in here I think, especially the second benefit of his ability (the first is more or less already covered by Thantis). Another that strikes me as potentially really interesting in your deck, is Champion of Lambholt. Your deck features a lot of creatures, so many will enter to make her stronger while simultaneously making most of your creatures unblockable. Seedborn Muse could be very useful in here as well. If Thantis forces opposing creatures to attack, you want your creatures to be ready for them (untapped). Or maybe find some way to grant all your own creatures vigilance. Anyways, have fun with this build and happy holidays as well!

Crow_Umbra on Battle Buddies

1 year ago

Hi there, I saw your comment on the feed and thought I'd offer some suggestions on potential cuts. Some thoughts from looking over your deck:

• First off, I think it's great that you have something like Insurrection as a top end finisher. Having played against some goad decks in my play groups ( mostly Kardur, Doomscourge), they can have trouble closing out games.

• Your 4 drop slot seems pretty crowded and I think where you could focus some of your cuts. I think some of the cuts can eventually get turned into a couple more 2cmc rocks to help you ramp. If anything, you could probably swap 2-3 of your land slots for a couple more rocks like Talisman of Conviction, Boros Signet, Mind Stone, and maybe Cursed Mirror to copy a valuable creature.

• Speaking of lands, I think if you stay heavy on the Enchantments, it'd be worth it to run Hall of Heliod's Generosity and maybe a few other utility lands like War Room, Minas Tirith, Scavenger Grounds, and Volatile Fault. Land destruction beyond Generous Gift/Beast Within isn't super common in most play groups. You could probably swap a few of your basics for some of these.

• Goblin Diplomats might be more trouble than its worth, since your opponents can still attack you. This could maybe get swapped with Grenzo, Havoc Raiser

• I think Fumiko can be a potential cut, mostly because she forces your opponents to attack, but not necessarily to attack each other like Goad might.

• Firemane Commando as a removal option seems kinda clunky. You could maybe swap her for something like Soul Partition, which can be a protective effect or removal.

• Mangara might be a potential cut, but I think this is more of a meta dependent call. I played him in a really early iteration of my Isshin deck, and oftentimes my opponents would remove him or play around his abilities by sending their 1 biggest and/or most evasive creature at me.

• You can maybe swap Agitator Ant with Nils, Discipline Enforcer, since you have control over the counter distribution, and he also punishes the utilization of any counters on your opponents' creatures.

• Assemble the Legion could be a potential cut, as it seems kinda slow for the payoff.

If you're interested, I theory-crafted a Nelly Borca deck that is trying to do what you want to do with this deck. I doubt I'll ever put it together, but it could be helpful to compare notes with. We definitely have some core similarities, but I think I lean a bit more into aggro elements for the deck to fall back to as a finisher, or if the Goad options aren't online. Check out The Slander Commander if you'd like.

Crow_Umbra on

2 years ago

I started brewing Boros and Mardu versions of the War Doctor, and it made me realize I hope we get a Mardu "exile matters" commander at some point in the future haha. Here's some stuff in Red/White that I think could work with your deck:

• I'd recommend Soul Partition as something that can pull double duty as either removal or single target protection. Either way, it'll help the War Doctor get some more counters.

• Grenzo, Havoc Raiser could also be a fairly low-end option to reward any aggro swings, and also help War Doc.

• Tectonic Giant is another aggro option with impulse draw as one of its modal options.

• Since the War Doctor cares about cards being exiled from anywhere, Calamity's Wake could be a quick way to get a ton of counters on him via graveyard hate, and also put an end to any combos that turn.

• Volcanic Torrent could be a removal option that's on theme with Cascade.

• It's an older card, but Parallax Wave can exile multiple creatures.

• Lastly, Hofri Ghostforge can be like a recursion piece for this deck and still be on theme for exile matters shenanigans.