Vector Asp

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Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Casual Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Pauper Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Scars of Mirrodin (SOM) Common

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Vector Asp

Artifact Creature — Snake

{{B}}: Vector Asp gains infect until end of turn. (It deals damage to creatures in the form of -1/-1 counters and to players in the form of poison counters.)

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Vector Asp Discussion

DiverDown on Commanders by Power Level [EDH Tier List]

6 days ago

Warlock1258 Before I get into an analysis of Lazav's placement, I would like to rebuttal you and ask what your dream sequence is to not only turn 3 somebody, but to do so consistently. Yes, turn 3 wins are in fact possible, but to turn 3 consistently and reliably is an entirely different question. Lazav is in great tutor and draw colors, but his combo packages require a lot of set up and pieces to pull off, and if any one of those pieces are interrupted by getting exiled for example, you have to move on to another pile most of the time. My list is nowhere near being considered an optimal cEDH list, because I never intended it to play in a cEDH environment. However, I can confidently say that my game plan isn't far off from that of a fully optimized list, and what little improvements I would make if I were to optimize the list would not make the list noticeably more consistent. Tier 3 is appropriate in my book, I wanted him to be placed in tier 2 when he came out, but he gets stopped dead in his tracks by Rest in Peace, Silent Gravestone, Cursed Totem, and many others. Again, this is a short answer, but keep in mind that I have piloted the deck for many months now, and as much as I'd love to see him move up, I realistically don't see it as comparable to other tier 2 and above decks. It is very simply, the glassiest glass cannon around. Buried Alive decks are a dying breed I'm afraid due to higher relevance of graveyard hate in the meta, and backups to a failed Necrotic Ooze combo with another package consisting of Invisible Stalker/Vector Asp/Phyrexian Dreadnought are a little too mana intensive and janky for competitive play because that sort of backup requires multiple combat phases which translates to multiple turns to kill the table which is not ideal by any means.

I hope that clarifies some things for you, feel free to ask me if some things still aren't clear to you. I would love to provide a more in depth explanation for why I feel from experience that Lazav isn't quite tier 2, but I hope what I have shared here is enough of a concise answer to your question. Tier 3 is still good and viable against competitive decks, so don't let that confuse you. It's just that his combo packages isn't quite as condensed or as direct as other combo-centric decks in higher tiers, and are often highly interruptible as a result.

BMHKain on Lazav, Conceptually Unknown

3 weeks ago

@multimedia: Alright; temporarily updated the description for this deck, but I have several things to note:

  1. How is Jace, Vryn's Prodigy  Flip useful here as several individual things (Including as a Walker.)?

  2. I'm trying to find an Intuition combo w either Phage the Untouchable & 2 other cards, or Vector Asp/Blighted Agent + Phyrexian Dreadnought & one other card. What would you suggest for either? This is actually for a quick wincon, but Myriad effects (Banshee of the Dread Choir for instance.) are considered "Useless" even though I initially thought The Legend Rule allowed multiple Perms of the same name (Creatures & others.), & Planeswalkers with the same Types. What changed as of Pre-Ravnica Allegence?

  3. Don't fret. I'll update the descriptions later. I just have to finish an Okaun, Eye of Chaos + Zndrsplt, Eye of Wisdom Chaos Deck, & update a Melek, Izzet Paragon Storm/Instant & Sorcery Copy Deck. I'll update the descriptions from there; given Ravnica Allegiance has Superfriends Support, Creatureless or not.

BMHKain on Lazav, Conceptually Unknown

3 weeks ago

Alright... I have 25 cards over. Some of these are incredible combos such as Crackdown Construct + Ornithopter for Infinite Power, Palladium Myr + Pili-Pala for Infinite Mana, Vector Asp/Blighted Agent + Phyrexian Dreadnought for Alt Wincon. Training Grounds & Heartstone for low costed Lazav Activations. Entomb, Buried Alive, & even Intuition for yard filling. What I need now is a way (2? 3?) to protect my yard. Meaning I need Hexproof. Only two cards in use this; & are clunkers. I'll have to ditch me having Hexproof. Any alternatives would be great; Leyline of the Void, & Planar Void shut this deck down; maybe more spot removal? I'd like some ideas for adds/cuts based on this comment; and some opinions of yours even...

I'd like some opinions...

ShaharRyu on Lazav, Conceptually Unknown

3 weeks ago

Blighted Agent Infect wouldn't really work. Vector Asp on the other hand would give the Infect to Lazav. The Myriad effect, either of the Banshee or Blade of Selves would trigger the Legendary Rule which would in turn kill all but 1 of the Lazav's.

Vector Asp with Phyrexian Dreadnought would certainly be a 1 hit KO. Add some evasion to it just to make sure.

BMHKain on Lazav, Conceptually Unknown

3 weeks ago

@griffstick: Went back to Lazav, the Multifarious... I'm currently trying to find ways for stuff like Leveler, Eater of Hope, & others in there. But I have to ask; is their downside part of the effects? & after switching names but keeping effects, how long does this last? Is it Indefinite, or after the end of turn? This was never addressed in the Rulings for this card...

I'll see if I can find anything I could use as a base from here.

@ShaharRyu & ZendikariWol: I'll start w/ the former. Since I've returned to this Lazav for good, what else would you suggest for this? I'll be list looking from there. For the Latter, I Apologize for switching Etrata, but this is far superior anyway; I just am finding some stuff that might somehow fit; though I wonder if Banshee of the Dread Choir would insta-kill a whole field when using Vector Asp, Blighted Agent, & Phyrexian Dreadnought?

That said, I'm now inspiration-searching from here...

multimedia on How exactly do I make ...

3 weeks ago

Lazav does more than that, he keeps named abilities of creatures he becomes. When you become a copy of a creature with Lazav, abilities of the creature that first use the creature's name are replaced with Lazav's name. This lets you stack named abilities of many copied creatures.

That's why Vector Asp and Blighted Agent are such a popular cards in decks with Lazav because you can stack their abilities when they are copied.

  1. Become Asp (Vector Asp gains infect until EOT, this is replaced with Lazav gains infect EOT) give Lazav infect.
  2. Become Agent (Blighted Agent is unblockable, this is replaced with Lazav is unblockable) give Lazav unblockable.
  3. Last become Phyrexian Dreadnought.

When you last change Lazav into Dreadnought you'll have a 12/12 Lazav with trample, infect and unblockable. He still has infect because of Asp's ability, he still has unblockable because of Agent's ability and he's 12/12 with trample because Dreadnought was the last creature you copied. You have replaced the name of Vector Asp and the name of Blighted Agent on the copies of them with Lazav's name, that's why these abilities stay with Lazav when you copy other creatures.

multimedia on The Multifarious mastermind

1 month ago

Hey, saw your forum topic asking for help.

Cards to consider adding:

Dreadnought in your graveyard is a 12/12 with trample for one mana with Lazav. Dreadnought and Asp in your graveyard is a combo. Become Dreadnought with Lazav attack and in combat become Asp, make Asp have infect for and kill an opponent with trampling 12/12 infect. Soulgorger is a 8/8 for three mana, also good. Buried/Windfall/Frantic/Careful are all potential early game plays to get creatures into your graveyard. Windfall/Frantic/Careful can also draw which is helpful. Buried is pretty important because it can tutor for and put up to three creatures into your graveyard at one time for three mana. It alone can set up the Dreadnought/Asp combo. Jace/Wharf/Looter can be early game creatures who can be repeatable ways to draw while also putting a creature into your graveyard.

Cards to consider cutting:

  • Deadly Visit
  • Mephitic Vapors
  • Never Happened
  • Severed Strands
  • Stolen Identity
  • Vicious Rumors
  • Cancel
  • Dimir Charm
  • Necrotic Wound
  • Barrier of Bones
  • Dimir Spybug
  • Watcher in the Mist
  • Whisper Agent
  • Jace Beleren

Lands to consider adding:

Good luck with your deck.


Funkydiscogod on Degenerate Targets for GPG

2 months ago

I thought about something like this earlier, and I had a few ideas:

Bomat Courier: A friend of God-Pharaoh's Gift from old standard seems like it would still be ok in modern.

Insolent Neonate: Not only stocks the graveyard in the early game, but comes back as a 4/4 Menace.

Stinkweed Imp: Stocks the graveyard with Dredge, then reanimates as a 4/4 Flying, Deathtouch.

Vector Asp: the option to give it infect for the alternate win is worth consideration. The threat of 4 poison counters can be serious. Otherwise, it can beat down like normal.

Plaxcaster Frogling: comes back as a 7/7 you can pay 2 to shroud itself or other critters.

Sekki, Seasons' Guide: Due to the wording on his ability, preventing damage and making tokens isn't dependent on there being any +1/+1 counters on him. So, he comes back as a 12/12 that shrinks down to an indestructible 4/4 that creates tokens instead of taking damage.

Clockwork Beetle: Can slow down aggressive decks in the early game by sitting on the battlefield as a blocker, then come back as a 6/6, if you don't have any better targets to Eternalize.

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