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|Commander Anthology 2018 (CM2)||Mythic Rare|
|Masterpiece Series: Kaladesh Inventions (MPS)||Mythic Rare|
|Commander 2014 (C14)||Mythic Rare|
|Scars of Mirrodin (SOM)||Mythic Rare|
|Promo Set (000)||Mythic Rare|
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Artifact Creature — Wurm
When Wurmcoil Engine is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, create a 3/3 colorless Wurm artifact creature token with deathtouch and a 3/3 colorless Wurm artifact creature token with lifelink.
Wurmcoil Engine Discussion
5 days ago
C13Myth okay boi, Kozilek, Butcher of Truth , Hedron Archive , Thran Dynamo , Basalt Monolith , Lightning Greaves , Solemn Simulacrum , Darksteel Forge , Staff of Nin , Caged Sun , Whispersilk Cloak , Wurmcoil Engine , Darksteel Plate , Ashnod's Altar , Soul of New Phyrexia , Eldrazi Conscription
1 week ago
Batterskull is a good addition for the reasons you gave. comes down a turn before Wurmcoil Engine would have and can be equipped to one of my other creatures making them way tougher. and, equipping Phyrexian Obliterator is great but just having it hang back and block for lili and rack up life for me is awesome too. i also like the idea of having it as another creature with Lashwrithe . a good suggestion and not a bad way to top the curve. if you already have it, test it and see how it works for you, you may be surprised! thank you!
1 week ago
I know you said no to tron, but I happen to play a tron deck which is different than the others, and I like this one a lot. It instead plays a slower, control game with countermagic like Remand , Condescend , etc and doesn't try to rush getting the tron lands out like the others and most notably doesn't play Karn Liberated . There's a neat combo between Mindslaver and Academy Ruins (well not for your opponent at least) provided you have the mana :)
Besides Ugin, the Spirit Dragon that I already owned (from a time when it was much cheaper) I didn't have to spend too much on the deck besides the 2x Wurmcoil Engine s, the tron lands, and Academy Ruins . Go to my profile to see the decklist.
If that's still not your kind of deck that you had in mind, then what about burn? You could build this fairly cheap. With a mana base consisting of Clifftop Retreat s, Inspiring Vantage , fetches like Bloodstained Mire , Wooded Foothills , Sacred Foundry and some Mountain s. Skewer the Critics is a new burn spell you can play in it too that you should be able to acquire easily.
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2 weeks ago
I have Mortify in the decklist. Also, I don't like Attrition since it only hits non-black creatures. If someone plays say, The Scarab God , Meren of Clan Nel Toth , or another teysa deck, it's a dead card. There are only so many slots in the 99 and I also don't like a lot of the new uncommons from ravnica allegiance that have afterlife. They don't seem good enough. Pitiless Pontiff fits that category as do older cards like Doomed Traveler . The main cards are the heavy hitters which you want to have die over and over again, mainly Wurmcoil Engine , Hangarback Walker , Seraph of the Scales , Kokusho, the Evening Star , Ashen Rider , and Elenda, the Dusk Rose . I'm running Dictate of Erebos so given the limited slots available, it doesn't seem necessary to also run gravepact and Butcher of Malakir . (although i certaintly do run all three in my Prossh deck)
2 weeks ago
Agent of Erebos fair enough, build to your meta.
You may find that other cards like Deadeye Tracker give you a bit more utility though. card draw and giving itself counters are nice upsides.
My main concern with the Cephalid Constable is that you don't really have any ways to give him evasion, so actually dealing combat damage to get the trigger seems somewhat difficult.
Patron of the Vein If you need the grave hate then I suppose, but CMC6 is fairly high up there for this. You might be better served with a lower CMC method of dealing with this issue, especially where creature removal is fairly easy to come by with cards like Plaguecrafter Fleshbag Marauder Grave Pact and hundreds of black removal spells. Withered Wretch might be a better option in some ways, and Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet is definitely a better bang for your buck.
instead of Dross Harvester you may want something you have a bit more control over such as Wurmcoil Engine or Basilisk Collar that way you can directly manage your life total rather than letting it change by happenstance. not to mention that wurmcoil is extremely good when you can repeatedly sacrifice it.
2 weeks ago
dragonforce60 I appreciate the suggestions but most of these cards aren’t powerful enough to be playable.
I’ll try to go through each cards and give a decent reason
Explosive Vegetation - considered running this however you are better off adding a farhaven elf, this will allow you to ramp earlier and have something to sac/ trigger to a like birthing pod or Mikaeus.
[ukabi drake - really just a dead draw 90% of the time, similiar to ball of ligtning
Scourge of Skola Vale - interesting effect however I don’t see the point of transferring ++ counters from one creature to another, this would to better in a deck with lots of walls for ex
Become Immense - most of our creatures are already large enough, you are better giving them something like trample or hexprokf, if you want something that goes good on big creatures I recommend Mage Slayer
Life's Legacy - interesting card that I heavily considered, ultimately you want to keep your large creatures around as that’s how you win games, fling is the exception as it’s at instant speed
Ultimately kresh is greater at getting big, and he goes greater with mass removal that you should already be playing, this deck really goes to try to solve the problem of kresh not having any self protection(like hexproof) or evasion. I like what you did with the fast attacking creatures that die instantly however these cards aren’t good when kresh isn’t around, so you are better of
2 weeks ago
I am probably not the best person to answer this question as I am a casual EDH player and haven’t really delved into the cEDH world, but of those three Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain looks like best value with the card draw, I know a lot of people build that deck to run a ton of 0 cost artifacts. I have had some matches against Daretti, Scrap Savant that weren’t super tuned up decks that I got wrecked by a Meteor Golem and a Wurmcoil Engine rotating back and forth.
2 weeks ago
Took a look over your deck, I like what your doing! However just as what hecubus333 mentioned, the CMC curve on the deck seems on the higher side. On a personal take, this was what my Teneb deck looked similar to before I tuned it for more of a competitive meta.
I also agree on your perspective on using unorthodox commanders for fun and tuning them competitively or as far as you can push them! For my thoughts on the matter, feel free to take it with a grain of salt!
These are good if you have multiple ways of abusing them or cheating them out but Ashen Rider and Angel of Despair cost way too much for these effects, I would consider only adding in one of these effects. Butcher of Malakir is another card that has way too high of a CMC when you are already running both Grave Pact and Dictate of Erebos , it should be considered being cut. Wurmcoil Engine while being fun, is a win more card and also can be swapped for something that gives you advantage. While I love redundancy effects, Falkenrath Noble is also too high for the effects that are similar to the Blood Artist as well as Zulaport Cutthroat . Burnished Hart while a fan favorite just only ramps you when going competitive you have access to faster mana rocks which does it much better. For the last thought I have on creatures like what hecubus333 as for 6 CMC is does not much and there are alternative ways to get better card draw.
In your artifact section, I am not a fan of 3 CMC rocks unless they provide an extra ability like say for example, Chromatic Lantern or Commander's Sphere . The former provides color fixing and the latter card draw that doesn't require you to tap to activate. With that being said, I would take out the Orzhov Cluestone , Darksteel Ingot , as well as Strionic Resonator . In replacement mana rocks like Mana Vault , Mana Crypt , Chrome Mox , Mox Diamond , Grim Monolith can be used. Or if going for more on the budget friendly route, Thought Vessel , Everflowing Chalice , Sensei's Divining Top , and Scroll Rack are other cards to consider.
Unburial Rites as well as Victimize are decent but Necromancy and Dance of the Dead provide cheaper cost as well as more efficiency, in addition they can target your opponents creatures in their grave as well. Sorin, Grim Nemesis is good in a casual format, but as said before 6 CMC for card draw is really rough. Albeit I do like that on the resolution you do get CA right away so that's a plus.
Now for cards I would consider adding, here is a list you can consider:
- Tymna the Weaver
- Dark Confidant / Mindblade Render
- Viscera Seer / Carrion Feeder
- Toxic Deluge
- Vampiric Tutor
- Demonic Tutor
- Diabolic Intent
- Enlightened Tutor
- Dark Ritual
- Culling the Weak
- Leonin Relic-Warder
- Smothering Tithe
Those are just some off the top of my head I can think of. For Orzhov colors you want to try obtain as much Card Advantage (CA) as possible as that is what we are weak on as well as mana acceleration.
Hope that gives you some insight! Feel free to ask for any advice, help, or perspective! Down to help tuning decks!
Wurmcoil Engine occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.06%
All decks: 0.12%
All decks: 0.06%