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G0ht on Grenzo Smash
3 days ago
Heyo. So First things first, these are just suggestions. We can talk some more EDH night if you want.
The idea of Grenzo:
Grenzo is first and foremost a flipped Dredge deck; He gets shit in your graveyard and fast. What's even better? He get's free dudes as long as they're less than his power. With a XBR Cost and a 2 power base that's pretty sweet. Dredge Loves creatures, they're easy to get back. In red and black artifacts aren't to hard either, so the dominate focus of the deck should be Facts, Good Dudes, Removal (With more dudes hopefully), and TURBO plusing Instants & Sorcs.
- Base 2 Power is a great start
- He's cheap. 2 mana and whatever you wanna pump him to
- So easy to rip bitchin' creatures
- Repeatable. Highly.
- It's quite fast
- "FUCK YEAH I RIPPED TYRANT OFF THE BOTTOM"
- Dying makes playing him SUCH a Hill to climb
- Lack of Knowledge; It's much harder to manipulate the BOTTOM of a Library
- Commander Engine; It's biggest asset is it's Commander
- Not as stable; You're gambling off the Bottom card, pretty much NEED Grenzo
Current List- Howling Mine isn't worth it. Them drawing is just to dangerous. It put's as many answers in their hand as cards to play in yours. Phyrexian Arena is what you want, 1 life is nothing if you pull victory sooner. Also consider Staff of Nin. It's mega expensive for it's effect but there's no life cost, if that becomes a problem in the build at some point and it can ping off small dudes, keep Walkers trim. On that Note I'm going to add it to An Eye For Two.
Minion Reflector's Success rate is meh. More often than not you'll probably find that the creature off the bottom isn't all that great at getting you out of the Pinch your in when you need it. So cloning it isn't all that great for a turn. Not to mention how many time you'd LIKE to get a dude from the bottom With Grenzo, you won't have enough to reflector.
I don't like mind stone. Kinda small but whatever, enough people do.
Trading Post feels unnecessary to me.
Additions- Thran Dynamo is a must. It's a really solid rock and used so much for a reason; and you Need mana for this deck, It's HUNGRY!
Rakdos Signet, Commander's Sphere and other small rocks like it are not bad, but how heavy you wanna go is up to you. I especially like Unstable Obelisk as it gives Enchantment removal....Eventually. Vessel of Endless Rest is probably a good idea.
Rings of Brighthearth is a better Illusionist's Bracers but Run both of course, It's not bad either.
Darksteel Pendant is Everything for you. Add it.
Soldevi Digger is some bomb stuff for recurring.
Hammer of Purphoros is more haste. You want haste. Ripped 3 off the bottom attacking and having them blown out still makes you feel good. Taste their fear.
Ashnod's Altar with Heartstone out means if you don't like the dude, you can just roll again and/orwind up for a winning hasted Living Death while still benefiting from ETBs.
Expedition Map helps get you Cabal Coffer's, Urborg, Valakut or a colour in a pinch. Highly recommend.
Mimic Vat Is neat and good denial from their GY.
Current List- Hamletback Goliath isn't doing anything for ya, and it's 6.
Hoarding Dragon Isn't a reliable artifact tutor. It needs to do and they can plan for what your getting to far in advance .
Kazuul isn't gonna be doing much. Granzo needs to be fast, he's not, You could use tokens for Ashnod's Altar, but he isn't reliable for that.
Kurkesh can't target mana abilities for speed, and he won't be out reliably enough to double the artifacts you want to at the same time. Not to mention, the benefit from the one's you have isn't really worth doubling; that mana is another Grenzo trigger.
Malphegor destroy's your own hand. There's better.
Siege Dragon meh powers go. A hellion of some sort would be better if it's for token removal.
Utvara Hellkite could be a better creature.
Additions- Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker is the Minion Reflector you want. It's crazy and combos out with many pieces. *
Anger is a good source for hate.
Anathemancer deals bomb amounts of damage in EDH. Tri colours decks eat it, dual colours take 5. Mono takes less than dual colours or sometimes 40 depending on what they're doing.
Erebos, God of the Dead Can be a dude, can draw you cards, get's hit by Grenzo. Yes please.
Gray Merchant of Asphodel May be an idea. Would need testing.
Junktroller is the dude underside fixing for you.
Mikaeus, the Unhallowed is the pants for you. Seriously; Undying dude attacking bonus damaging extra lifing MAN!
Nekrataal is an assassin.
Viscera Seer is a good sack outlet/ bottom of deck stacker. Let's you off and recast Grenzo for to land him with more power.
Goblin Welder Can swap artifacts like you late game mana rocks for better stuff.
Urabrask the Hidden is good haste on a creature that hates them. Beautiful.
Shriekmaw is an assassin.
Fleshbag Marauder is a dude sac assassin.
Flametongue Kavu is good. You may not like it but 4 kills a MASSIVE amount of commanders, and dudes, and it's a creature you can rip easy, it's value man.
Manic Vandal is an idea for artifact removal.
Necrotic Ooze may be something to consider. Could use Phyrexian Devourer With it for combo. It could be used to Grenzo for 4 if you let Grenzo die. Triskelion is an idea maybe as well. Combos with Mikaeus, the Unhallowed. *
Magus of the Moon and later on in this, Blood Moon are good. You're dual coloured with rockswith rocks so you're pretty fixed for lands. May hurt your stuff like Coffers but timing is everything. But it should be present as on option to Ith effects and such. Magus is just the dude version. *
Agent of Erebos is good tech for hurting they're GY.
Instants & SorcsCurrent List- Dark Ritual isn't consistent enough. Could be a dude.
Anger of the gods could be a dude, or a bored wipe hellion. Meaning rips off the bottom. Also 3 is a little to low for EDH I find; four is the magic number
Decree could be a dude that wins instead of a wipe. Or a hellion, like always
Insurrection isn't consistent. They may NOT be a creature strat.
World at war isn't worth. Hellkite Charger is a dude you could try
Profane Command is nice, but as always....dude with effects you want that comes off of grenzo and doesn't hit the GY.
Additions- Reanimate is a good thing.
Scrap Mastery Might be an idea if you get a bunch of stuff dead. Testing Pending.
Devil's Play with mana for dead? Infinite mana maybe? *
Rakdos Charm is good tech for hurting they're GY.
Current List - Ferver may be one to many sources. Probably not though. Test.- Animate Dead is a good re-animator Card, which you could use well.
Additions- Blood Moon See above.
- Opal Palace Is a good way to make up extra counters. it died once, so for an extra tap he gets two more. Then four more.
Ending Statement *
If you notice, the * means stuff that may be considered unfun. Well yes, it can be. You wanted to know what you could do to beat Azami? There's some options. When you're considering what to put in remember a few things:
Azami, Lady of Scrolls is a power deck and in our pool. It's something to have in mind, and it's not the only deck that's got some mad power going on cough Animar, Soul of Elements and all thedecks that some people keep away for competitive hateful occasions. And there are so many more EDH's that are worse and unstoppable.
You don't need to include the infinite Combos but certain pieces are good to have Like Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker.
If you do go the ham combos win route you could keep Grenzo as your threat deck for going up against other high threats .
Don't feel THAT bad about Blood Moon stuff. From a mainly Tri-coloured player's standpoint; I do plan for that stuff.
3 months ago
@wikd8ball: Good tip. I like the zero cost creatures because either the opponent won't pay for something so insignificant, making them consistent free blockers, or they will, and I paid nothing but one card to deal 3 damage. They also have infinite loops with Viscera Seer and both altars if the opponent won't pay, typically forcing them to do so.
However, I won't deny that they can be very insignificant themselves to me. Currently considering...
Still on the fence but it's worth a look at, thank you. Also, I'm not so sure I need Reliquary Tower, all the times I've played this deck I've never had issues with hand size, and it only really has a cool interaction with Necropotence which is inconsistent to pull off. Are you seeing something I am not? I'm not positive that giving up a W or B mana land for a C one that has a janky effect is particularly worthwhile.
3 months ago
Sorry for the wait, let's get down to buisness!
It's late at night, so for now I'll list cards to consider/buy under 2 dollars, then later I'll list cards that are expensive/not very good. (note: I didn't memorize your list, so if I say something that's already on there, sorry)
For cards to buy, I'd get Anathemancer, Anger, Bone Shredder Disciple of Bolas Flayer of the Hatebound Mesmeric Fiend Nekrataal Shriekmaw, Priest of Gix Priest of Urabrask Zealous Conscripts Ashnod's Altar (<-- BUY THIS) Reito Lantern Soldevi Digger Tel-Jilad Stylus Heartstone Darksteel Pendant Crystal Ball Rakdos Signet Diabolic Revelation Dreadbore Gild Terminate Rakdos Charm Falkenrath Marauders Rise from the Grave Swiftfoot Boots
Hidden in those cards gives you an infinite mana combo! Here it is: You need your commander out. Then you use Priest of Gix/Priest of Urabrask to pull off the bottom onto the battlefield. Then use Ashnod's Altar to sacrifice the priest. You now have 3 mana because of the Priest enter the battlefield, and 2 because of Ashnod's Altar. You then use Soldevi Digger or + to put it back on the bottom of your library. That costs 2, so now you have 3 left. Use 2 to activate Grenzo again. You still have one left. That puts a priest into the graveyard (because you just put it on the bottom) then back onto the battlefield. Repeat infinite times! (Ask me later for more detailed description.)
For cards to cut... try Mana Echoes, Sensei's Divining Top, Fated Return (too expensive to cast) Rune-Scarred Demon LANDS you probably want around 37-38-36 Moggcatcher Goblin Piledriver and whatever else you want to cut (maybe Goblin Chieftain?) Most of those cards are a little out of budget.
Next time I'm at the shop, I'll ask Dylan about cards he thinks would be good, and I'll try to get some for you :)
Also, I suggest clicking the little green button with the checkmark under the card to say I LIKE THIS SUGGESTION ! It helps me out and it keeps them folded away for future reference!
3 months ago
There's been a number of suggestions covered here, but to expand on ThatBlueMage's black aggro suggestion:
You can definitely make a solid black aggro deck for 2 or less mana with some older cards. Dark Ritual, Carnophage, Sarcomancy, Black Knight, Dauthi Warlord and other <=2 mana shadow creatures as a start - Even Flesh Reaver if you're feeling a bit brave. Some hand disruption with Hymn to Tourach and Thoughtseize, and cheap removal like Diabolic Edict. I'm pretty ignorant of everything that came out starting at Mercadian Masques up until Theros Block, so there's probably some alternatives in there that are as good or better.
I make no claim that this is any better or worse than the other suggestions, but at least I really enjoy this deck style, and it is very aggressive.
4 months ago
Wake the Dead would be a good inclusion in my Sidisi self-mill reanimator decklist, and I would like a combo or two - preferably with budget pieces - to recur everything in my graveyard as cheap as possible for a total blowout.
I'm thinking something along the lines of Wake the Dead with X=2, fetch Eternal Witness / Archaeomancer (to fetch Wake back) and Priest of Gix, sac both to Ashnod's Altar and cast Wake again for X = 5. Fetch the same pieces and whatever else I would like as my blockers, or nice ETB-effects. Combine with Blood Artist to kill everybody, Man-o'-War to bounce everything, Deranged Hermit for infinite squirrels, Mulldrifter to draw cards, Yavimaya Elder for ramp, Rune-Scarred Demon for tutoring, etc.
Is this a viable combo? Does it work the way I think it will? Any other suggestions for abusing Wake the Dead?
9 months ago
10 months ago
I believe it goes this way : you have Heartless Summoning and Havengul Lich in play, a Priest of Gix in your graveyard. The priest will only cost you 1 colorless to pay for the lich's ability and 1 black mana for himself thanks to heartless summoning. He comes into play gives you 3 black mana and then dies because heartless summoning gives him -1/-1. You may repeat the process as many times as you like and gain 1 black mana each time.
|Power / Toughness||2/1|
|Avg. draft pick||5.22|
|Avg. cube pick||7.21|
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|Duel Decks: Phyrexia vs. The Coalition||Uncommon|