Welcoming Vampire

Creature — Vampire

Flying

Whenever one or more other creatures with power 2 or less enter the battlefield under your control, draw a card. This ability triggers only once each turn.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Alchemy	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Historic Brawl	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pioneer	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Pre-release	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Standard	Legal
Standard Brawl	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (46)

Wesinator69 on Kudo,King Among Bears EDH

2 weeks ago

I don't think the +1/+1 counter stuff is as good in hatebear theme. Maybe run some more anthems instead of Abzan Falconer and Hardened Scales. Here are some cards to consider.

Patchwork Banner, Welcoming Vampire, King Darien XLVIII, Trostani Discordant, Reverence, Rally the Ranks

Predator_90 on Mardu Vampires

3 weeks ago

Cemetery Gatekeeper, Welcoming Vampire, Vicious Conquistador, Bloodtithe Harvester, Phyrexian Metamorph

usaDiabetic on Zensunni Wanderers | Hazezon Tamar

3 weeks ago

Tocasia's Welcome and Welcoming Vampire could be good to get on the board before your commander triggers. They could also just help while you're setting up.

Tribute to the World Tree could also help you on a two axis'

Deck looks super fun as is though! Awesome list!

Crow_Umbra on ....But it happens twice.

1 month ago

Oh nice! You're in for a fun time, Isshin is a lot of fun to pilot. Is there a general budget you have in mind once you do start buying cards? Because of his ability, there's certainly different archetypes that you can emphasize in your build, or mix and match them to best suit your play group's vibe, or your preferred play style.

Since you haven't really play-tested the deck much yet, I'll keep my feedback more general. Once you start getting a feel for it, you'll have a better idea of potential changes you might want to make. A few things I can think of:

• Angelic Exaltation is kinda off-theme, although it has an attack trigger. The emphasis on a single attacker doesn't mesh as well with the various token makers in your creature base. You have a lot of strong pieces to build a wide board and overrun your opponents. I think this is a safe swap out.

• I think you can swap a couple of board wipes for some board protection effects like Scapegoat, Fanatical Devotion, or Unbreakable Formation. The first two give you means of repurposing your creature tokens to save more important stuff. Alternatively, Plumb the Forbidden can be a devious response to a board wipe, & kill your board to draw some cards. I think you can swap out Plague Wind, since it's the most expensive card, mana-wise.

• Avacyn can probably be swapped for some lower on the curve protection options like Reconnaissance or Dolmen Gate, which is less budget. Reconnaissance was recently reprinted in the Assassin's Creed set with updated reminder text. This EDHREC article details how it can be utilized as a pseudo-Vigilance anthem. Avacyn is a powerful card, but she's very heavy on {W} for a 3 color deck.

• To compliment your creature token production, I think you can maybe swap Arni for Welcoming Vampire, Tocasia's Welcome, or Chivalric Alliance as a means of keeping your hand stocked.

I think retooling a bit on how you protect your board and draw cards could be some decent spots to focus on first. Isshin is very board dependent, he thrives from keeping it protected to maintain that aggro momentum.

Hopefully those are some helpful starting points. Best of luck with your games tomorrow, I hope you stomp your friends lol

doodkyle on How does the ever changing …

3 months ago

Let's say I have The Ever-Changing 'Dane and Welcoming Vampire on the battle field at the same time. 1. I use dane's ability to sac and copy the vampire. 2. I reanimate the vampire. 3. Dane (as a copy of the vampire) triggers, then I draw a card 4. I use dane to sac and copy the vampire. 5. I reanimate the vampire.

After the second reanimation, does dane trigger again since he is technically a copy of a different welcoming vampire, or not since he already triggered once?

Aexislord on Emmara, Soul of the Tapped (EDH - Optimized)

3 months ago

Hackbrett I am SO sorry that it took me this long to respond! Thank you so much for your kind words words, and I am very happy to learn that someone else built the deck and is seeing success with it.

I am definitely noticing that multiple people are seeing success with Boromir, Warden of the Tower. I think I need to playtest this card more to see if the effect comes into play enough to offset the higher mana cost compared to Selfless Spirit.

Thousand Moons Smithy  ^Flip is a card that got my attention a while back, although my initial impression was that it felt a bit too "win-more"-ish. Regardless, I am in the process of playtesting it, along with Delney, Streetwise Lookout, Wylie Duke, Atiin Hero and a couple of other cards. I think that Delney, Streetwise Lookout will almost certainly make the list because it is both a tapping outlet AND a token doubler for this deck (although it is a shame that it cannot double Welcoming Vampire and similar cards). However, I still don't know what it will replace. One thing I will say is that long-time "staples" of the deck, such as Paradise Mantle and Springleaf Drum have started to feel less and less essential now that we have so many toys to play with.

I will keep everyone updated in the coming months. Hopefully MH3 gives us some more goodies!

rckclimber777 on Build a Deck with Me …

4 months ago

First a quick introduction. I've been playing magic off and on for years. When this site first started out, I was super active and then I stopped playing. I recently got back into it and plunged deep into the Commander format. I love building decks around interesting concepts and often trying to break cards.

My slightly ambitious goal is to create a series of threads that show my thought process as I build a commander deck. I figure it will serve two purposes: First, it will aid newer players who have some precon decks and perhaps are looking to upgrade them or they see a commander and want to build it, but aren't sure how. The second is purely self-motivated in that more experienced players can fine tune my own logic and make suggestions for my own improvement.

So with that, the first commander deck I'm going to build here is Ghired, Mirror of the Wilds. This is a card that begs to be broken and creates for interesting and powerful decks. There are also several different lines you can choose to go with. You can make it go infinite if you like degeneracy or don't like the people in your playgroup, or you can decide to go the way of building lots of tokens quickly and then turning them sideways and swinging. (Spoiler alert we are going infinite)

So first things first, we need to think about what the commander actually does and what it is going to need to do that effectively. First, it allows all nontoken creatures to tap and create tokens that I control that entered the battlefield this turn. So a couple things to point out: First is that it is tokens not creature tokens specifically, so treasures, clues, food, etc. are fair game. Secondly, it doesn't have to be my turn that the tokens came in, you can activate the ability at instant speed if you create a token on your opponent's turn. Now Ghired also is only 3 mana in Naya colors with Haste which means he's going to come down early in the game, so we'll want some other creatures out there when he comes down to start building up tokens right away.

With his abilities in mind, there are a couple things that we want to think about: Cards that create tokens, cards that double tokens, cards that untap things, and cards that do interesting things when they're tapped, example Wylie Duke, Atiin Hero, who comes down early as well, and when she is tapped I gain life and draw a card. We will obviously need to consider interaction, ramp, and card draw, but those are secondary in my thoughts. Every deck needs those, but what items you add often depends on what your deck is trying to do. In this case, we want to make tokens, tap creatures, make more tokens.

Token Generators

So a couple really good token generators here to start would be things that keep making them rather than one offs. In my playtesting Oltec Matterweaver is hard to beat. It comes in early (turn 2 if you can get a sol ring). When you cast a creature spell you can copy a target artifact or bring out a 1/1 gnome. Turn 1 you play a plains and a sol ring. Turn 2 you bring this out, turn 3 you bring out Ghired, creating a copy of sol ring, tap your Oltec Matterweaver and create another sol ring. You now have 3 sol rings on the field on turn 3... You are now the archenemy, congrats? EDIT: So as it was pointed out in the comments Oltec only creates copies of TOKEN artifacts. We could use Molten Duplication to create a copy of an artifact, but still Oltec still does great at producing consistent tokens.

Some other standouts are Emmara, Soul of the Accord who when tapped creates a 1/1 soldier with lifelink. So tapping will actually create two tokens. Also if you need a token for Sunstrike Legionnaire to go infinite you can tap her down (she's only 2 mana) create your 1/1 soldier, untap sunstrike, with Ghired on the field, tap Sunstrike to create infinite lifelink 1/1 soldiers. (actually happened in playtesting)

Generous Plunderer deserves a mention as you really need consistent tokens every turn and this does that. It gives you treasure tokens which is great and is likely to stick around since your opponents like the possibility of getting a treasure token as well. Dockside Extortionist can take the deck to new levels of degeneracy depending on when you play it/number of times you copy it with things like kiki jiki and jaxis.

Selvala, Eager Trailblazer is also great as you get 1/1 creatures every time you cast a creature spell. Her ramp also goes surprisingly well in the deck. I highly recommend it.

Thousand Moons Smithy  ^Flip is another beast of a card. It comes down turn 4, Ghired is already out along with any other low cost creatures. Let's say you have a Birds of Paradise and Ghired when this comes down and maybe a mana rock. You create a 5/5 Gnome (2 creatures, 2 artifacts, and the gnome itself). Now you tap the bird and Ghired and create two more Gnomes. You now have 3 7/7s, on turn 4...

Honorable mentions here are things like Smothering Tithe who will create treasures each opponent's turn, tap a creature and create another. Rain of Riches, create some treasures, copy them, cast something, and get cascade.

Also, populate is a thing, I like Growing Ranks and Nesting Dovehawk for that.

Doublers

Ok, so doublers is a pretty easy topic, there are quite a few out there, they are expensive and honestly for this deck you don't need much. I chose a couple that I particularly like for this and by like I mean I own them and didn't have to go out and spend $50-60. Examples are Ojer Taq, Deepest Foundation  ^Flip, Mondrak, Glory Dominus, Primal Vigor (careful as this one applies to everyone not just you).

I ended up starting out with 3 of these and then cut it down to just the two creatures mondrak and ojer taq. Both are still great and can quickly overwhelm the opponent. I found myself holding onto the enchantments in preference to playing token creators and creatures.

Untapping Abilities

Untapping abilites can make it even worse as time goes on. If you have a Seedborn Muse you untap each upkeep so they draw a card, Smothering Tithe creates a treasure, during their end step you tap your creatures creating more treasures. Untap on the next opponent's untap step, rinse and repeat.

This is also where infinite combos begin to happen. Sunstrike Legionnaire untaps everytime a creature enters the battlefield. Make a creature token, tap sunstrike legionnaire, create another creature token, sunstrike legionnaire untaps, rinse and repeat, gg. Midnight Guard works too for one more mana. Other options include making copies of your own creatures that untap creatures when they enter the battlefield like Hyrax Tower Scout, Zealous Conscripts, Sparring Mummy. Mix that with notable salty cards like Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker, Molten Duplication, Splinter Twin, Jaxis, the Troublemaker and you're off to infinite again. (Jaxis uses his ability targeting sparring mummy, sparring mummy comes in untaps him, now Jaxis just taps to make a copy of the sparring mummy token (from Ghired) which has haste, it comes in untaps Jaxis, rinse and repeat, swing with a legion of sparring mummies)

Don't got too heavy on these or you won't have enough tokens to copy.

Cards that do cool things when tapped aren't super plentiful, but the two I've mentioned already are great for this deck. (Wylie and Emmara).

Interaction, ramp, card draw

Now for the ramp, interaction, and card draw. Ramp is fairly straightforward, since we have the Oltec Matterweaver, I opted to put in some signets, but left some other stones out. Normally when I'm in green I go heavy on green ramp. I opted for cheap ramp spells like Rampant Growth, Farseek, Three Visits and Birds of Paradise (could maybe use more mana dorks since having a body later will help in producing larger tokens).

Interaction is super important in this one. Board wipes are coming, targeted removal is coming, so need to prepare, but we also need to be flexible in taking out our opponents. So to save us from board wipes, we have Heroic Intervention, the ubiquitous and hopefully soon to be reprinted (one can dream) Teferi's Protection, Boros Charm, and Smuggler's Surprise (which is heroic intervention in disguise).

Getting rid of threats is crucial, so Path to Exile, Swords to Plowshares are useful, but not as useful as Beast Within, Generous Gift, and Stroke of Midnight. These obviously target more than just creatures, but also produce tokens. There are situations where a well-timed beast within on your own treasure token to create a 3/3 beast that you can copy a bunch of times is the right play. That make it not just removal, but also a token generator.

Finally, we come to card draw. Since we are producing tokens (hopefully most turns) we can include things like Bennie Bracks, Zoologist and Idol of Oblivion. I also like Welcoming Vampire for this deck. It is creature heavy so Guardian Project is great, so is Beast Whisperer and Garruk's Uprising. Esper Sentinel is always good. We already have Wylie from earlier. Getting card draw is vital to the survival of any deck and particularly this one as we need to be producing tokens regularly and you need cards to produce them. I chose to run about 11 card draw engines in the deck to ensure I'm drawing regularly.

Lands... I mean... make sure you have dual lands in the deck and triomes if you can. One noteworthy utility land is Grove of the Guardian which can have a nice payoff when you create an 8/8 with a few creatures out along with Ghired.

I'll post the deck that I built from this thought process on my page in case you want to see the final product. And if you made it this far thanks for joining me on this, I hope it was helpful. Feel free to comment on how you would do it differently or cards that should have been mentioned. Also feel free to mention commanders you want to see built. I have a couple in mind to start but want to see suggestions as well.

Here is the final decklist: Ghired the infinite outlaw

seshiro_of_the_orochi on

7 months ago

This looks pretty cool! I'm still pondering if I should build Mama Bear, especially because I already have Goreclaw. But then again, Duskana is basically the antithesis to her. We'll see.

Some cards I'd consider for this deck are these:

Welcoming Vampire. It's not a 2/2 itself, but draws additional cards. Seems good enough.

Wild Pair. It weirdly doesn't work here if you have anthem effects, but it's insane with a deck full of 2/2s.

Faldorn, Dread Wolf Herald. Draws cards and makes quite a lot of 2/2s.

Hornet Queen. It's a 2/2, but it brings 6 flying, deathtouching power. Great for defense. And just imagine casting literally anything with a Wild Pair out to get this thing in addition.

Bane of Progress. 'Nuff said ;)

Thanks to Duskana caring about base P/T, Goreclaw, Terror of Qal Sisma actually works quite well here. If you properly stack her trigger and Duskana's, your 2/2s will become 6/6 trampling forces of nature.

Dusk / Dawn is perfect for the deck. Boardwipe? Check. Big splashy value spell? Check!

Ayula's Influence would need quite a lot of land recursion to play it here, so that's a clear maybe.