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Mind Shatter Discussion
1 week ago
3 weeks ago
Far out Mandalorian! Thank you so much! This is a huge help, I was struggling but with this i should be able to get this deck flowing magnificently. I was kind of just expecting a sentence or two of advice and a few card recommendations but you really put in to help me get this deck running. Cheers!
Some of the cards you mentioned I already have (such as Mutilate, Grey Merchant of Asphodel, Duress, and Nightmares pouring out of my ears) but I dis-included them here just because I was using this list to decide what cards to buy.
Some others like Liliana's Caress, Hymn to Tourach, and Shrieking Affliction (I do have one of these but wanted more), I kept out either because the seller didn't have them or I left out to cut costs a bit. (Liliana's Caress is $8 ea! Why I went for Raiders' Wake instead, though it's CMC is higher)
And then there's those cards like Zombie Infestation, The Rack, Waste Not (far out that card is good) and Faith of the Devoted that I somehow never found when researching discard cards and now I feel I must hunt down these cards right away.
I also now totally see what you mean with Brain in a Jar, Tempt with Immortality, and Blood Tribute. Especially Tempt with Immortality I never even realised I was giving their discards back facepalm. Though I've already ordered those cards they'll fit fine in other decks I own so no issue being rid of them.
I was also wondering what's your opinion on adding some cards I already own such as Consume the Meek, Pestilence Demon (Mono-black can work wonders with him, tho it can also obviously be a detriment), Liliana's Reaver, Jar of Eyeballs, Wight of Precinct Six, and Crypt Incursion. Although Crypt Incursion could result in lofty amount of life, it also kind of ruins the synergy of cards like Guiltfeeder but in the other hand denies possibilities of opponent's getting their cards back and could even make Tempt with Immortality more viable.
Another thing I was worried about was that besides Creeping Dread I don't have much consistent opponent discard sources. I did originally consider Cao Cao, Lord of Wei but my seller didn't have it and I do prefer to avoid spending $5 on one card (there are exceptions of course). Other than that I just thought of adding more discard spells like more Mind Shatters, and now, adding a few Unnerves. I do own heaps of Mind Rots but they down seem very CMC efficient. Also adding some of these cards (which I plan to do) will return my issue of deck size. What do you think I could replace? What's worth keeping? What doesn't contribute enough to warrant keeping?
Sorry I feel like I almost just wrote an essay question for you to answer, but I feel as though you probably enjoy this stuff ;P
Again, thanks soo much for your assistance, this is the first deck I've made that I'm trying to make perfect so I really appreciate the help in getting it there. Cheers!!
1 month ago
You could definitely use some more efficient discard spells, look up an 8rack deck to get a few cards you could use. Also your commander choice for this deck is rather strange, she's not a good commander and seeing as how most of your creatures are not gorgon shes terrible. Seeing as how this seems to be on a tight budget Id recommend:
Commander You Should Go With In my Opinion:Greel, Mind Raker
Good Discard Spells and Synergy:
The Rack, Liliana's Caress, Dreamstealer, Gray Merchant of Asphodel, Larceny, Rackling, Cao Cao, Lord of Wei, Dark Ritual, Mind Twist, Mind Sludge, Mind Shatter, Read the Bones, Raven's Crime, Mind Slash, Scepter of Fugue, Malicious Affliction, Go for the Throat, Walk the Plank, Shrine of Limitless Power, Necrogen Mists, Black Market, Underworld Connections, Greed, and Archfiend of Ifnir
Thats a lot I know but this deck seems to be just what you had lying around (not a bad thing thats how my decks start) so I thought Id try to help a bit, good luck!
2 months ago
2 months ago
2 months ago
Permafrost Orb of Dreams is a huge play maker in this deck with Amulet of Vigor effectively slowing the game to where i gain massive advantages. Sidisi was originally in my list of cards to add to this deck and may still get into the deck. I may remove Thoughtseize as it has done its job in the prototype of this deck, and can now be removed. Amulet/Orb is something that helps me out with the placing of a Golgari Rot Farm in the deck (to be announced). This weekend I'll be implementing a new card or two into the deck, mainly from my sideboard into mainboard. The Abyss and Nether Void make there way into the deck now. Along with this, I'm throwing in Torment of Hailfire as a win condition. Hymn to Tourach is extremely beneficial when playing the political game (like my LGS does) but I definitely see where it can come out. Especially if I want to play cards like Mind Twist some time in the future. Mind Shatter will be hitting this decks mainboard tonight as well to cripple big threat decks.Garruk Wildspeaker or Nissa, Worldwaker? I think Nissa wins a place in this deck over Garruk as she can fetch the basics (If i dont already have all my basics in play) I find that I should be adding an effect like Seedborn Muse into the deck as well to gain advantage over the board in stacking.I did consider Epic Struggle for this deck, however felt it would be too slow. With the mana acceleration, I also considered Omnath, Locus of Mana as a hard beater but determined that he was more of a situational card that does nothing for the mana that he hordes. It's been determined that this kind of deck does not like to leave mana open during players turns.
Arbor Elf why remove Arbor? It untaps a forest that may be needed to get pieces. It actually helped me win a game last night. lol (I was land screwed)
4 months ago
Hi, At first i think you don't need that many lands, about 35-38 should be enough. Also the strategy (Discard right?) isn't well constructed. I would recommend also discarding cards from your Hand and creating some Synergies with your graveyard (Reanimator stuff etc...). Here are some Cards which are relativ cheap, but could work quite well.
Other good Stuff:Yawgmoth's Bargain, Mutilate, Languish, Bloodgift Demon, Profane Command, Swiftfoot Boots, Skullclamp, Avatar of Woe, Desecration Demon, Harvester of Souls, Phyrexian Reclamation, Nekrataal, Shriekmaw, Polluted Mire
I think that most of the cards are affordable and could improve this deck a lot. Adding more removal is also important. There are plenty of more cards, but this list should be enough for some new toughts :)