Target player discards X cards at random.
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|Modern Masters 2017 Edition (MM3)||Rare|
|Duels of the Planeswalkers (DPA)||Rare|
|2010 Core Set (M10)||Rare|
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Mind Shatter Discussion
4 months ago
5 months ago
I love seeing discard decks. I run a Nebuchadnezzar discard deck, I recommend checking it out if ya want some ideas.
You are missing some of the stronger discard sorcery spells. Mind Twist and the weaker Mind Shatter are very powerful sorcery that can force your opponents to just go top decking, plus with your commander it becomes make target opponent top deck and get X 1/1 soldiers. I run both in Nebuchadnezzar because its a nice gun to have against combo players or fragile decks that cant handle losing resources. Arterial Flow is another good sorcery disacrd spell cause it forces all your opponents to discard 2 cards, unfortunately it is there choice and not yours or random. However two cards can be a lot, in a 4 pod game you manage to get 6 1/1s and discard 6 cards for 3 mana. Hymn to Tourach is really brutal because it takes out 2 cards at RANDOM, random discard can really mess with people because it gives the chance of taking out something really powerful vs giving them a choice and they discard 2 lands. I then recommend at least one 1 mana discard spell because they let you see your opponents hand and you get to pick what gets discarded. They are small power but getting knowledge is really valuable in a discard deck because it lets you know who is a big threat and who you should be trying to get to top decking first.
For enchantments you are missing two of the most powerful discard engines, Bottomless Pit and Oppression . I do understand that both these cards hurt you however they are so powerful that the little negative of hurting you can be ignored. Making everybody discard 1 card at random at their upkeeps can be very deadly, you get a token each upkeep(except yours) and you can ideally stop people from getting combos or using powerful cards. Then oppression is really nice cause it punishes spell slinging decks or decks that try to go greedy and cast a lot of stuff. Both these enchantments make it a lot easier to get people to top deck.
For creatures, I recommend checking out some specters( I run a lot of the good ones in my nebu deck). Specter are typically 3 to 4 mana creatures that just force people to discard a card when they deal combat damage. Solid flyers and helps you get people to top deck and produce tokens.
Now for some cool synergy, I recommend Sepulchral Primordial and Reanimate . Because you are putting all of your opponents cards in their graveyard doesnt mean they have to go to waste. With primordial you get a 5/4 intimate creature for 7 mana + 3 creatures of your choice from your opponents graveyards ( I assume 4 man game). Reanimate is nice because you can either bring back one of your creatures or take that really strong creature you forced your opponent to discard early game.
I hope these suggestions help.
8 months ago
10 months ago
Some Humble Recommendations
Don't forget Cemetery Reaper , Cryptbreaker , Havengul Lich , Prized Amalgam , Risen Executioner , Wonder , Tidehollow Sculler , Zombie Master , Graveborn Muse , and, if the $$ is still right : Mikaeus, the Unhallowed , and Sidisi, Undead Vizier .
- Buried Alive (Big One)
- Coat of Arms (Also Big)
- Vanquisher's Banner
- Graf Harvest
- Necromancer's Stockpile
- Cathars' Crusade (probably)
- Unconventional Tactics (better than it looks)
- Bad Moon
- Altar of Dementia
- Stitch Together
- Mind Shatter (why the fk not)
- Patriarch's Bidding (again if you down with the $$)
- Anguished Unmaking
Stuff to Drop
11 months ago
Have you considered cards like:
- Mind Twist
- Mind Shatter
- Hymn to Tourach
- Syphon Mind
- Death Cloud
- Small Pox
- Ill-Gotten Gains
- Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip
- Liliana of the Veil
- Torment of Hailfire
- Waste Not
Hope that helps!
1 year ago
I run a black/blue discard deck, Nebuchadnezzar is the commander. I recommend cards like Oppression and Bottomless Pit. Even though they hurt you, they are too powerful to pass up in my opinion. In essence they will be top decking a lot faster with those enchantments on the field. I also run in my discard deck, Reanimate, Necromancy, and Animate Dead as a way to steal other players powerful creatures that they ended up discarding. Sepulchral Primordial is also a wonderful big guy to run in a discard deck. He is pretty powerful by himself but he steals multiple creatures for you. You also should consider the most powerful discard card in the game, Mind Twist. I also run its weaker version too, Mind Shatter. Also Liliana's Specter is pretty nice, 3 mana causes all your opponents to discard one card. I recommend checking out my Nebuchadnezzar deck for my ideas, discard and graveyard decks are my favorite stuff.
Overall, your deck looks like a lot of fun and I hope you cause mayhem in your games.
1 year ago
The cards that I would personally recommend cutting are:
Helldozer: it would attract a lot of hate, and is really pretty slow to do much.
Phylactery Lich: a card that is almost exclusively stats, and just a 5/5 (even with indestructible) isn't usually that relevant.
Fated Return: 7 mana to resurrect a creature and maybe scry 2 just isn't that great in my opinion. If you're looking for something similar, I would recommend Rise of the Dark Realms. 2 more mana for all creatures instead of just one.
Curse of Shallow Graves: if I'm reading this correctly, this is only one 2/2 even if you attack with multiple creatures. And only attacking one player. And your opponents get it too.
Marchesa's Decree: conditional card draw with maybe some life loss? Ehhhh....
Trespasser's Curse: great against token decks, but largely irrelevant otherwise.
Cellar Door: way too inefficient...3 mana for maybe a 2/2?
Lich's Tomb: I think this is too risky and could easily blow you out
Another thing I'm noticing is the severe lack of ramp and card draw. There's plenty of Zombie synergy, but you're never going to get there if you have very little mana and an empty hand. I would recommended adding some Gilded Lotuses, Thran Dynamos, Worn Powerstones, Jet Medallion, as well as Phyrexian Arena or even Sign in Blood.
1 year ago
I need some help deciding to remove some cards to make it 100 cards commander legal, it’s 105 right now.
Throw me some ideas to add or replace cards too. Feel free to criticize me, tell me if there should be changes. First time really trying to put a deck together. I think I’m having mana and creature cost issues? I’m not sure? Thanks!