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Equipped creature gets +1/+1 for each color among permanents you control.
As long as Conqueror's Flail is attached to a creature, your opponents can't cast spells during your turn.
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Conqueror's Flail Discussion
1 day ago
Grand Abolisher or Conqueror's Flail could also really help with your counter spell situation, or War's Toll can restrict opponent's available mana for counterspells. Reverberate or Wild Ricochet can counter their counters
1 week ago
Upvoted! Us Esper artifact players should stick together :P
For suggestions, I feel that you can incorporate a Stoneforge Mystic package to find equipment to protect the Triplets during grindy games. You can even throw in a Conqueror's Flail and Helm of the Host (I think the helm is a better way to enhance your board state as compared to the Tempered Steel).
1 month ago
Hey man, here are my thoughts
First, although I know your manabase isn't finished, I'd recommend running at 37 lands total.
Second, it's important to consider which equipment are powerful with this strategy, especially with Mirri. You'll likely need ways to keep her from dying. Since she has first strike, giving her deathtouch in addition will make it such that she will always kill the opposing creature before it deals damage, making her almost invincible in combat. You've already mentioned Quietus Spike, but other must-includes for this deck (imo) are Gorgon's Head, Gorgon Flail, and Basilisk Collar. You may also want to have ways to keep Mirri from dying to board wipes and removal. Darksteel Plate and Shield of Kaldra are both about 5 bucks, but they're pretty good. Cards that prevent targeting can be good, but hexproof is preferable to shroud. However, some shroud giving cards, such as Lightning Greaves and General's Kabuto. Mask of Avacyn gives Hexproof, but it's not a Great equipment.
Third, let's consider the equipment you're including. You want most of them to be strong enough to make a single creature into a threat on its own. You've already included cards like Argentum Armor, but frankly you don't really have enough equipment. I'm gonna list a bunch of equipment in various categories here that are worth considering (Sorry if some of this is already in your deck).
Fourth, let's look at your creatures. In commander, lower-impact things tend to be outclassed quickly. As such, you generally want your creatures to either be significant threats or utility. Some creatures that I feel are worth cutting are:
Jareth, Leonine Titan (Not a particularly good card. He's only got a good size when blocking)
Leonin Relic-Warder (He's likely to die over the course of the game. Long-lasting removal is better)
Oreskos Explorer (You're in green, so your ramp spells are likely to be land-focused)
Phantom Nishoba (You'll probably want something stronger for you 7 mana. It's basically a 7-mana 7/7 with lifelink/trample and a downside.)
Qasali Ambusher (This creature just isn't impactful on its own)
Sunspear Shikari (This one is also low impact. I wouldn't play a 2-mana 2/2 with both of those abilities natively in commander, and this card is worse than that.)
Don't get too attached to the cat theme. Have it be something you can take advantage of, but don't put in a bad card just because it's a cat. Additionally, don't be averse to putting in noff-type creatures when doing so improves your deck.
Let's look at some creatures that might improve your deck.
Eight-and-a-Half-Tails (Can help get your other creatures through for damage or protect them from removal. A tricky one to play with, but with high upside)
Sram, Senior Edificer (Card draw is A1 in commander, and this guy gets it for you while also carrying equipment)
Odric, Lunarch Marshal (Makes one threat into a whole team of them)
Leonin Warleader (Makes more vessels for the equipment, which have lifelink and benefit from tribal synergies)
Taj-Nar Swordsmith (Gets you what you need when you need it. Make sure you know what you're looking for though!)
Grand Abolisher (Gives you a lot more control over combat on your turn)
Leonin Abunas (Protects your equipment. May be unecessary, but worth considering)
Indomitable Archangel (As above, but it also has flying, which makes it even better.)
Brass Squire (Sneakily fantastic. Avoids the equip cost while also letting you move an equipment at instant speed)
Auriok Windwalker (As above, but it also has flying, which...huh, deja vu)
Mother of Runes (Good for defending from removal or getting a creature through combat)
Armory Automaton (Note: this can take your opponents' equipment as well. They can re-equip it, but not until they get back to their own turn.)
Alms Collector (This is a good cat. Worth including on its own merits. Takes stuff away from the blue player.)
Stone Haven Outfitter (Insurance for a board wipe. Your deck is weak to them, so keep an eye out for ways to protect your team.)
Mentor of the Meek (More card draw since most of your creatures are cheap)
Adorned Pouncer (Not sure about this one, but it has double strike and can come back from the dead, so that's something)
Mirran Crusader (This guy sees modern and legacy play for a reason. He hits hard and doesn't die easy)
Silverblade Paladin (The ability to give another creature double strike is fantastic.)
Steelshaper Apprentice (Weird card, but lets you get what you need.)
Emeria Shepherd (Another way to rebuild after a wipe. Consider holding this in hand w/ a few lands rather than playing it out.)
Jhoira's Familiar (Makes equipment and legendary creatures cheaper and has flying.)
1 month ago
I have a fond place in my heart for Saskia though my deck is long retired. I have a few suggestions of cards that I used to run which can ramp up your deck's explosiveness:
I'd replace Putrefy with Anguished Unmaking and then run Sunforger as it likely would be the best card in your deck. You could also run Crackling Doom, Path to Exile, and Aura Mutation (all tutorable by Sunforger).
Martial Coup might be a solid board wipe to include here and there are a bunch of token doublers in green and white you could consider.
Lastly (I know this is a lot of suggestions, sorry) I think your deck could use more card draw. 6 total cards that provide card draw seems a little low to me (I usually never go below 10 in my decks). Mentor of the Meek, Shamanic Revelation, and Skullclamp are all really powerful in this type of build. There are also other card draw staples in these colors like Sylvan Library, Read the Bones, Night's Whisper, etc. which you could consider.
I hope some of these comments help and happy deck building!
1 month ago
Hey AlistarFiend! This deck looks great, I can see why you've created such a popular source with your take on Edgar Markov. Lately I've been playing a Hyper Markov deck that takes eminence to the extreme with 50 vampire creatures. What is the main drawback that keeps you from adding more vampire creatures to your deck? Regarding specific cards, Conqueror's Flail seems like a good card, how has it worked out for you? I'm also curious how Raging River works and how you use it. Thank you AlistarFiend!
1 month ago
I like Tainted Pact because i can use it to dig for anything I might need which, includes interaction.
As for you best bet with those other cards... you have:
You could try running the creature replacements for the other 2 spells and then running Sacrifice and Burnt Offering. You could also try running Bog Witch although, unless you can play it T1 or T2 it won't be able to give you the needed BBB for a turn 3 win. Another card you could run that could eat a slot but, with purpose, would be Mossfire Egg. For more ramp you can always run Seething Song. You can use the red to pay colorless or convert it to black with replacement effects like the Stars/Egg/Signet, Bog Witch or Priest of Gix. It would also give you one hell of an awesome Shattering Spree if you want to slow down other players (blow up mana rocks/tops) or Stax pieces.
If you are a turn or 2 slower because you don't have fast mana, you could also always play more creature kill/artifact destruction or something like Conqueror's Flail.
Keep in mind that running higher cost cards will make Ad Nauseam more painful so you'll draw fewer cards when you use it.
2 months ago
Delta-117, your post is nothing but impressive. 75 minutes is alot of time to dedicate to a single post. Thank you.
Back in 2016, I wanted to acquire an Atraxa deck for myself, but unfortunately she was completely sold out everywhere. I had to settle for Breya, Etherium Shaper and Yidris, Maelstrom Weilder. Fast forward to 2018, and at a new LGS I spotted an Atraxa precon just sitting in the window. I asked if she was for sale, and ended up trading a Engineered Explosives and paying roughly 20ish bucks I think. I was lucky, because I wasn't the only person interested. I really wanted to build a deck surrounding the Praetors, because well...they're just really cool cards. I picked up a few at another LGS...but for this deck? I had plans.
Also, yes playing this deck is alot like archenemy. I am quickly voted Persona non grata, and the whole table quickly swoops in to destroy and dismantle all of my tools...while other less "scary" decks establish better boardstates, and eventually dominate the table into submission. Every game needs a villain, and I happily fill that role. And at the very least I have fun with it. I can't help but joke when I infect the whole table.
LANDS: The bond lands are cool and all, I just feel hesitant to include non-typed duals. Also the drawback is that those lands are duds if I ever play a 1v1 game. Admittedly it'd be rare when that happens, but it is definitely a possibility. Also,they can't be tutored. I'll admit the manabase is far from perfect, but i'll do some thinking (using your suggestions of course) and revise the list. What's funny is that I have a physical copy of Inkmoth Nexus in the deck already, but it's not on the digital list lol. Thanks for pointing that out.
Steady Progress is there primarily to keep tempo and increase poison counters on players, and drawing an extra card before the beginning of a turn is always a win. Now, Reliquary Tower is pretty niche. My deck doesn't get me a lot of draw unfortunately (something i'm working on), and the rare chance that Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur stays on the board long enough to really make Tower relevant...would be a surprise to me. I have a 2019 Reliquary Tower promo of it in my trade binder, I think i'll hold onto it and maybe do some experimenting.
Gavony Township seems like a really cool include. Given that most infect creatures need an increase in power and toughness placing +1/+1 counters on all of them in one fell swoop could be just the solution i'm looking for. I'll find a way to include it in the list.
CREATURES: I have a Phyrexian Swarmlord, just been trying to figure out how to work it into the deck. Corpse Cur has definitely been something of a dud where there have been just so few valid targets to bring back from the grave. My only qualm is that the deck needs some form of recursion, but Phyrexian Swarmlord is the bomb that this deck definitely needs to have a strong board state in the late game. I'll go ahead with your suggestion of swapping out the Putrefy, and see what happens. As for Champion of Lambholt, given that +1/+1 counters will never take center stage i'm hesitant to include her despite the benefits of the evasion she provides. Blightsteel Colossus is cool. Really, really cool. On theme, and intimidating- however the high CMC (even for this deck) just makes it unappealing to me.
Your other suggestion of Conqueror's Flail offers good protection (at least on my turn) and can potentially pump my creature up to +4/+4. If I see one, i'll pick it up and experiment with it. Also, I took a look at both lists and both Become Immense, Vines of Vastwood, and Mutagenic Growth (the flavor!) all caught my eye. All cards are instant speed, and can definitely make a player who begrudgingly accepts 1 poison counter to get far more than they bargained for. I want to figure out what to cut in order to include these beauties. Now, for Spellskite I like it. Full of flavor, and would be potentially a great albeit temporary defense. I just don't know what to cut for it. But the suggestion of Hatred really gave me pause. That's cool. It's applicable both early and late game...and can potentially end a player immediately for a fee of 9 to 17 life. Nobody would see it coming and it would be brutal. I'll definitely see if I can pick one of those up.
So on the topic of planeswalkers...I briefly considered including a Karn of some sort...but they deviate too far from theme. Honestly, I'm not really much of a fan of the mechanic. I have a few decks that have some Planeswalkers in them...but i feel really meh towards them. Just meh. Doubling Season would be great if this were a superfriends deck, but that is definitely something I want to stay away from. I'm just not a fan of those builds. As to your question about that Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite, the answer is yes. I have an actual copy of that card. Long story short I was at my LGS playing EDH with a friend and I mentioned that I wanted a copy of that card, but it was 1 - very difficult to find, and 2 - very expensive. Then he just casually mentions that he had one - for trade no less. For a moment I was dumbfounded, but then he reminded me that he was a judge. Funny I didn't pay attention to that. So, with not a moment to spare I whipped out my trade binder and said "do your worst". The follow list below is what he picked up (it's a long one):
- Dragonmaster Outcast
- Siege-Gang Commander
- Tomorrow, Azami's Familiar
- Wheel and Deal
- Voice of the Woods
- Nut Collector
- Pathbreaker Ibex
- Growing Rites of Itlimoc Flip
- Mayael's Aria
- Wild Pair
- Enchantress's Presence
- Huatli, Radiant Champion
- Rashmi, Eternities Crafter
- Ghirapur Orrery
- Sharuum the Hegemon
- Phyrexian Altar
- Sword of the Paruns
- Teferi's Puzzle Box
- Scroll Rack
- Graveborn Muse
- Endless Ranks of the Dead
- Army of the Damned
- Mad Auntie
- And last, but certainly not least - $80 cash
2 months ago
Ah it's good to see that you have built an Atraxa, Praetors' Voice decklist, and one that is more unique than most (even mine admittedly). I use to include all the praetors in mine for the flavor as well as a bit of infect, but my Atraxa deck paints a big enough target on me at my lgs without those kind of cards as people have seen what it is capable of. I have games turn into essentially archenemy at times. I'm still undecided on the direction of the deck ultimately but it's already my most expensive edh deck. But enough talk of my list, here are some suggestions to consider:
(LANDS) Sea of Clouds in place of an Island, Morphic Pool in place of a Swamp, then cut maybe Manifold Insights for another land like Bountiful Promenade as I think your land count is a bit low. Other changes I would make would be to add an Inkmoth Nexus, and a Reliquary Tower. Inkmoth Nexus has evasion and if your goal is to win with infect you will want as much early game cards as you can to get early poison counters in. I would take out Saltcrusted Steppe for Inkmoth Nexus, and then cut Steady Progress (You already have better ways to proliferate, a number of which are repeatable unlike this one, maybe i'm wrong on this one but I think there's better cards you could have over it here) for Reliquary Tower (while this may not be relevant that often, look at how many cards Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur nets you if he sticks around and you will notice you have no way to have an unlimited hand size). And since you happen to have quite a few sources of proliferate, it might not be a bad idea to put Gavony Township in here to help your creatures out since so many on their own are quite weak.
(CREATURES) I would swap Corpse Cur for Phyrexian Swarmlord, as I don't really see many good targets for infect creatures to bring back outside of course Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon. Viridian Corrupter might be another infect creature you might want to consider using, I have to say spots are looking tight for me to suggest cuts for some cards but I think for this one I would swap Putrefy for this additional infect creature.
Additionally, while I see that you aren't concerned really with +1/+1 counters I still think Champion of Lambholt might be worth consideration for helping to get infect creatures through for even as much as an outright kill. For other aggressive options, you could go the route of Blightsteel Colossus which can simply kill players (It's kind of pricey, but i'm not sure if that's a concern for you). If you were to use this card however, you would want to make sure it's protected from the likes of your Swords to Plowshares etc with Lightning Greaves, Asceticism, Whispersilk Cloak or even additionally with Conqueror's Flail which I talk about more later. Putrefax is kind of similar if even not as strong, and perhaps this kind of strategy can pay off well with the use of equipment and maybe even some pump spells if we were to take inspiration from modern/legacy infect lists?
They rely on taking usually 1-2 infect creatures and pumping them up with cards like Berserk, Become Immense, Vines of Vastwood, Invigorate, Groundswell, Blossoming Defense etc to go for a kill, and while some of these might not seem as effective here in commander, I still think a couple like Berserk and Become Immense are worth using because I already see you have Rancor here and these can help get around the fact that many infect creatures are quite weak on their own. And on that topic of infect creatures being generally frail, a few cards that you could consider using here to solve that would be Teferi's Protection, Spellskite(great for taking removal off your more important creatures), and or Heroic Intervention. A few other cards that modern infect lists make use of from time to time are Distortion Strike, Apostle's Blessing, and then of course the staple Noble Hierarch and Pendelhaven. As I said before the general gameplan with such decks is to attack with generally 1 or so infect creatures and back them up with pump spells like those and more mentioned above, and that's where Noble Hierarch and Pendelhaven (pairs well with Glistener Elf, Blighted Agent, Plague Stinger, Inkmoth Nexus and the like) give the attacker a boost to kill outright in as early as turns 2-4. A few cards that might help with this route would be Duelist's Heritage, the previously mentioned Champion of Lambholt, Spinebiter, Apostle's Blessing (can be used for offense or defense), and Slip Through Space. And I see you have a couple counterspells here, and so maybe this is foolish enough to work, but I think you should consider using Hatred here. It can be put either obviously on an infect creature that is not being blocked/can't be blocked (many good targets would be Blighted Agent, Inkmoth Nexus, Putrefax provided you added it of course) or any other evasive creature or what may not at first be obvious to be used on your commander, because ask yourself how many players early on/mid game are going to stop you from attacking them say maybe 1-2 times with Atraxa, Praetors' Voice who is a 4/4 deathtouch/flying/vigilance creature? What you can do with this is pay all of that life to simply kill someone with Atraxa and then gain all that life back :)
While maybe I fear a bit redundant similarly to Grafted Exoskeleton, Triumph of the Hordes is a card that maybe you have overlooked here. The trample can be very useful for getting damage through and I would probably want to play a card like this over Praetor's Grasp, Wargate, or Viridian Longbow possibly? I have to say that I agree with FiveEightFiveBC's observation about Grafted Exoskeleton, I think if you want to stick with equipment that is yet better, either use Sword of Feast and Famine/Sword of Light and Shadow or something like Conqueror's Flail. I could see stacking a bunch of equipment and using stuff like Hatred, Duelist's Heritage, Become Immense, Glistening Oil, Fireshrieker, Sword of Vengeance, and such just on your commander as a legitimate gameplan also with or without infect.
Lastly, similarly to my earlier suggested Gavony Township, I was curious if your opposed to the inclusion of any planeswalkers here? Because I believe Nissa, Voice of Zendikar could do well here. Others to consider would be Ajani Steadfast, and Venser, the Sojourner. You wouldn't even have to go far with this, as too much and you start to change the theme of the deck, but these few that I highlighted might be of use to you here I thought with or without the likes of Doubling Season, and all the other obvious things that you would use with planeswalkers.
I will try to think of more suggestions, but I think this is enough for now to say the least as I will let you know I spent about 75 minutes in all coming up with all of this so far I think! Let me know what you think of all of this, as I know I suggested a ton of things and not all of which did I havsuggestions on what to replace them with. On a side note, I have to say i'm a bit jealous, do you happen to actually have a specific copy of that judge promo Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite?