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Words of Waste
(1): The next time you would draw a card this turn, each opponent discards a card instead.
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Words of Waste Discussion
1 week ago
I wrote a ton and then realized I should probably ask what decks your playgroup plays, because idk if I should be recommending graveyard hate when your opponents might not utilize their graves. Another example would be a green deck ramping really fast, in which case I would maybe recommend something like Magus of the Balance or land destruction like Armageddon to screw over the ramp that they've focused on early in the game.
Maybe I'm not getting something here, but what is Transcendence doing here? How does it pull its weight in any way? If its just to stall when you get to critically low health, why not Resolute Archangel instead?
Etherwrought Page looks incredibly slow, especially for 4 mana. The life gain is super small, the damage is even smaller, and if you're using it for the filter ability, go with Search for Azcanta Flip instead.
Necromancer's Covenant is decent lifegain + it hates a graveyard for you.
No Solemn Simulacrum? This deck probably needs all the ramp it can get.
Darksteel Forge seems weird here, even if it does keep your commander alive (and I guess your mana rocks too, but I wouldn't deem those as needing protection at the point when you've got 9 mana that you can drop on the forge). I think I'd go with a protection equipment, like Darksteel Plate, and if not that then Lightning Greaves or Swiftfoot Boots.
No Austere Command? Its like Merciless Eviction but probably better.
I think I'd go Words of Waste over Words of Wind. Wind is just going to let them return a good ETB permanent to their hand, or a land if the game has gone late enough. Can't imagine it'll ever force something like a threatening creature or Planeswalker back to the hand. Not sure if I'd actually even recommend Words of Waste with your draw capabilities in this deck, but I'd definitely say get rid of Words of Wind.
Aura of Silence is solid all around. Its a nightmare for enchant/artifact decks, and otherwise its 3 mana sorcery speed to destroy an artifact/enchantment already on the field that can be cast preemptively.
Binding Grasp seems weird. Not sure what is good about it over something like Bribery or Acquire, and perhaps even Sower of Temptation in some ways (depends on how much removal that opponent runs, I suppose).
Praetor's Grasp seems really slow, and if you're looking to just rob them of a card, Sadistic Sacrament is nuts for that (especially for removing combos!). Life's Finale also doubles as a board wipe if that was your goal. If you really wanted to play the card yourself instead, then just go with Bribery, or put that good card that they have in your deck too, because paying 3 more mana for nearly any card seems S L O W.
Speaking of board wipes, your deck is pretty low on them. You've got single target removal like Darksteel Mutation but if you're up against 3 people, how much is that gonna help? I think I'd rather pay the 2 more mana for Wrath of God and all of its cousins.
Pulse of the Dross, how often does that come in handy? They're gonna reveal the 3 least important cards in their hand, and with such a slow deck I imagine you'll almost always have more cards in hand than most players.
Spellseeker is just good imo, I'd recommend it to nearly anyone running blue.
Depending on the decks you play against, Containment Priest can be an even better counterspell (against reanimation) that not only disrupts your opponents but also offers you a chump blocker.
You also don't seem to have a win-con, as I see the previous commenter mentioned, but perhaps your win-con could just be considered disrupting your opponents so much with your deck + your commander's ability that you drain them of all of their value, in which case you definitely need more protection for your commander than the Darksteel Forge and counterspells you're running.
3 weeks ago
Solemn Simulacrum I know, he's annoying and expensive and in every deck but he RAmPS AND DRAWS AND IS COLOURLESS LIKE BLEH
Pristine Talisman Triggers your life-gain abilities.
Gravestorm MAN that theming
Ob Nixilis Reignited one of THE cheapest walkers around
Krav, the Unredeemed and his partner Regna, the Redeemer can generate card advantage by searching for each other, seem to be on theme (life gain and tokens are both parts of this deck, see your commander for details, but krav specifically lets you draw a shit TON of cards. Also, gives you some sac outlet ability and ridiculously tiny activation cost)
Necropotence this IS a more expensive card and with good reason. But of all the "more expensive card draw" cards i believe it is the LEAST more expensive. Seriously this card blows games out. (SIDENOTE this works SUPER WELL with your axis of mortality, necropotence yourself to 1 in response to the trigger then swap with someone to go right back to 35)
Harvester of Souls Gimme card draw for your creatures. Tax'ing the hell out of the entry to hell.
Actually on-theme cards that are really mean:
Magus of the Abyss There's a REASON people refer to chumping every turn as abyss-ing
Infernal Darkness a card you can probably find for 3$ or less, ruins people's happy fun times (except you)
Call to the Grave See above regarding magyss of the abyss.
Patron of the Nezumi Pay the death tax
World Queller This one's especially spicy cause you can choose a permanent type you DON'T have one of.
Angelic Arbiter A little high on the curve tbh but does make your opponents choose combat or spells
Aura of Silence I really think this is a must-have card for this strat.
Archfiend of Depravity New government law, every player shall have no more than 2 creatures. Communism at work, the government gets as many as it wants.
Magister of Worth A VERY thematic board wipe. (it will ALWAYS be a board wipe)
Cliffhaven Vampire For all those extorts and life linkers.
Leonin Arbiter Seriously punishes decks with greedy manabases and green decks
Aven Mindcensor See Leonin Arbiter
Oathsworn Vampire This guy is great card advantage and a recurrable chump for your "symmetric" forced sacrifice effects
Windborn Muse Better than Baird IMO
Orb of Dreams EVERYTHING is tapped
Utter End Seems to me a better card than Mortify, even if it costs 1 more.
Hushwing Gryff Flash torpor orb fucks SO MANY DECKS
Descent into Madness Although this is only particularly strong if you have a huge draw-engine to keep exiling bad cards from your hand instead of permanents.
False Prophet HOW IS THIS CARD SO CHEAP???
Words of Waste Can be powerful but may require too much tuning of mana/draw to be actually good.
Kataki, War's Wage expensive but powerful effect.
That's all for now. too many options honestly.
1 month ago
1 month ago
All work really well with Varina's draws when you find yourself digging too deep, or you have no cards in hand and want to wreck the board/hand/gain a load of life with Alhammarret's Archive -- 5 mana through Worship to gain 50 life? Sign me up.
1 month ago
Great list so far. Here are you my suggestions:
I'd swap out the infect cards for an evasion suite. Infect is great on paper, but you don't get to direct where it's going. Thus, it comes with #1 negative (painting a large target on yourself that says: 'kill me now') without the #1 benefit (eliminating your greatest threat in a turn or two). I think you'll do better flying lower on the radar. Stick the five commander damage and be happy. Some combination of Corrupting Licid, Sleeper's Guile, Dauthi Embrace, Shizo, Death's Storehouse, and Shinka, the Bloodsoaked Keep should do the trick. Add in a Nim Deathmantle to keep Xantcha on the field indefinitely.
War's Toll should incentivize others to use Xantcha as a mana sink on their own turn. Which is exactly what you want.
Glacial Chasm is good protection. Sit back and watch the world burn.
Alhammarret's Archive seems great w/Xantcha's ability, although it is quite slow. Maybe get a feel for how your opponents are dealing with Xantcha first. If you get to sit around a lot, slot this in.
If you find that Xantcha is eating removal often, Fury Storm seems like a good add. Playing Xantcha three times, and quintupling an x=6 Exsanguinate to drain the table for 30 sounds like a positively delightful way to spend 10 mana. Works with that Profane Command in your Maybeboard as well.
As far as what to swap out:
Spiteful Visions isn't asymmetrical enough. You're probably going to be using Xantcha's ability often enough to make this hurt.
Exquisite Blood isn't really working within your game plan. You're using it as a defensive option here. I think there are better options (Chasm, for example).
Blood Sun works against you too much.
Polluted Bonds could probably be swapped out for something. I get that your opponents will be drawing more, but if feels like 5 mana good stuff.
Rite of the Raging Storm might also be too cute, but it's hard to judge.
Overall, this is a really good list. Xantcha is a cool card and it's fun to see how many niche interactions she enables. Good luck with it!
1 month ago
Khorvath's Fury, Windfall, Geth's Grimoire, Waste Not, Painful Quandary, Torment of Hailfire, Jace's Archivist, Perplex, Decree of Pain, Blasphemous Act, Reforge the Soul, Pain Magnification, Lavaborn Muse, Hollow Specter, Hellfire Mongrel, Pull from Tomorrow, Wheel of Fate, Rise of the Dark Realms, Words of Waste, Oppression.
1 month ago
Summary of first round of changes:
The three cards I cut had no plan to truly benefit from them. As mentioned previously, Words of Waste felt bad to draw and I never wanted to activate it in both optimal and sub-optimal conditions. It's not a good card to draw when you're about to die. Portcullis is a semi-stax kind of card, which I originally intended to include based on the optimal situation of playing a turn 3 Xantcha into a turn 4 Portcullis, aiming to keep Xantcha as the primary threat on the table. Ultimately it just isn't impactful enough, and would be a terrible late-game draw. Finally, Bottomless Pit, meant to encourage Xantcha activations, would hurt me just as much as others.
The three cards I included are all reactive. My playgroup packs solid board wipes, so there's a lot of potential value to be gained from Thrilling Encore. One of the highlights of the first game I played with the deck was targeting an opponent's Expropriate with a Reverberate. With Wild Ricochet, being able to redirect an opponent's spell in the mid to late game -- and/or copying its effect -- can serve many different purposes. Finally, Price of Progress is a way to end the game, though I will definitely need to retool my mana base so I'm not killing myself in the process.
1 month ago
Some takeaways from today's games:
Curse of Opulence is wonderful at influencing combat and helping ramp. A lot of value packed into one red mana. The card has cemented its slot in this deck.
While I never got to actually activate it, Shinka, the Bloodsoaked Keep was a fantastic option to hold up, as a 5/5 first striker can survive most fights in the early to mid game; it was nice to have the option.
I run too many non-basics for a two-color deck. A late-game From the Ashes neutered any chance I had at winning one of the games.
Drawing Words of Waste felt awful. I didn't want to skip out on the card draw for a Xantcha activation just to make everyone discard a card, and it didn't seem like a good use of 4 mana, either, even with the added loss of 2 life. I can see cutting this immediately for something more impactful.
I'd like to decrease my dependency on creature blockers as rattlesnakes, which will allow me to include something like Bedlam to more readily encourage combat. It improves the usefulness of Virtus the Veiled and Master of Cruelties, too.
Targeted unblockable repeated effects from cards like Key to the City seem like a better long-term goal for keeping Xantcha connecting each turn than to run extra targeted removal. I'd rather save that removal for the actual threats, while enabling Xantcha to continue dealing damage in other means.
Group damage doublers like Dictate of the Twin Gods definitely seem promising in such a world, so I'm likely to give that a try.
Finally, I need to take a hard look at how I actually intend to win. Seems simple and silly to admit, but in the late game, after casting a tutor, I didn't have the confidence in knowing what my ultimate end game needed to be. Maybe I do need to put some combos in after all...