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Delirium Skeins Discussion
2 weeks ago
i dont like 8 rack but imma help you out, you are going to want like 2x the ammount of removal and probably Bontu's Last Reckoning split some main some side, also man lands are very good in this deck Mutavault is best but for budget you could jank out a Dread Statuary or Spawning Pool
3 weeks ago
Fair enough, I threw it together as the first idea I had that met the requirements and I'd enjoy playing. I'm currently tinkering with an Inverter of Truth/Enduring Renewal list using it because it felt more fun.
1 month ago
Feel free to tinker and use whatever you need. The list is incomplete, but has a lot of neat budget options. Mono black deckbuilder's toolbox
2 months ago
Dark deal has a bigger, better brother- Delirium Skeins. It crushes combo and control if it resolves, and while it hits your own hand thats usually ok with a waste-not out there. Run both. I'd go with a 4/3 split, as that and waste not are your deck's 'thing'.
Maindeck sangromancer is definitely the right kind of idea, trying to take the edges off of those aggro matchups. That said, its a four drop, and you'll hopefully have already emptied their hand. A bigger ETB is worth looking for, I'd go with Gifted Aetherborn or even Vampire Cutthroat over nighthawk- it costing less mana matters so much when you need it as fast as you can for burn.
Remember that your opponent is likely to have at least some creature removal in all but the most aggressive matchups, so you want creatures that either naturally resist that (hexproof, protection, etbs, etc) or only matter against the aggro matchups that are removal-light, so that you can spend your hand disruption on their threats. Night's Whisper and Sign in Blood will serve you better than asylum visitor.
Shrieking Affliction or Profane Command in place of attempting to finish your opponent off with creatures is a good option, and the other is to cheat creatures out of the graveyard so that they are less valuable. You can do a lot with sac triggers to dodge removal if you stay on the creature plan- an Indulgent Aristocrat and a Call the Bloodline is surprisingly functional if you run stuff like Call to the Netherworld. It effectively blanks a lot of removal, and killing their hand quality by leaving them with dead cards is great.
The idea of t1 disruption, t2 enchant, t3 big discard is solid, play heavily into that. Once the game is stalling out and you're both in topdeck mode, you want to be sure that you maintain the advantage. Ok, so the classic lili plan is out of the window because its stupid expensive, but Ob Nixilis Reignited will be castable most of the time you want it, and with a lot of maindeck discard has basically the same abilities.
Remember, black's main advantage is flexiblity- feel free to grab something out of my big list Mono black deckbuilder's toolbox to find something that hates on your metagame.
2 months ago
Bloodchief Ascension Cao Cao, Lord of Wei Greel, Mind Raker Sadistic Hypnotist Syphon Mind Delirium Skeins Dark Deal Hymn to Tourach Liliana Vess Smallpox Unnerve Bottomless Pit Words of Waste Tasigur's Cruelty Conjurer's Closet Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur Nephalia Smuggler Ghostly Flicker Essence Flux Phyrexian Metamorph Sakashima the Impostor Dimir Doppelganger Followed Footsteps Mindslaver In Bolas's Clutches
2 months ago
I've piloted a bunch of mono black ranging from £15 lists ( Budget mono-black! ) to... uhh way too much.
By biggest peice of advice is to commit to a striaghtforward plan, which fights well against your dominant metagame strategies, with a sideboard dedicated to hating out the most visible other strategies. This'll take some practice, but you don't have to break the bank to make it work.
There are two sets of cards you should absolutely spend money on- if you're going fetches/sacrifice, Fatal Push, if you are going mono-swamp Inquisition of Kozilek. Sideboard you want whatever meta artifacts are out there Damping Sphere or w/e, and Ratchet Bomb.
Judging by your current list, I reccomend piloting a vampire/lifelink build. The idea is to play 1/2/3 drop lifelink vampires and strap a Lashwrithe to them. Aggro strategies will have a really hard time fighting through the volume of lifegain you can get, and you win fast enough that combo and control actually have to draw their cards (enter Delirium Skeins sideboard). Indulgent Aristocrat, Gifted Aetherborn, Vampire Cutthroat, Call the Bloodline to pitch lands to, with a second big payoff card in Blade of the Bloodchief. (also, holy shit those cards went up in price)
The big thing that makes budget mono-black tick is the large amount of cards that aren't gamechanging on their own, but offer relaible small synergies. Much like jund, you don't have to worry about failing to 'go off', so lots of high-variance opponents beat themselves. There are cards to meet almost any need in black, you just have to pick them and dedicate to it.
Similarly, you can do an awful lot with 4 Languish and 4 Mutilate, especially if your wincon is not creatures. Its just all more effective if you pick one thing that you want to be doing lots in your games, and pack as much of that as you can in your deck.
Let me know what you want your deck to do, and what you value as a player and I'll point you in the direction of some of the lesser-known options.
3 months ago
In Mono B 8 rack, The Rack and Liliana of the Veil circument the leyline. Also on a budget, Liliana's Caress and Delirium Skeins, etc all do the same. You do not have to solve every issue the same way.
3 months ago
i've decided to go back and put Night of Souls' Betrayal back in the sideboard along with a 2x Delirium Skeins. the enchantment coupled with our bridge is nasty. weenies, bears, a lot of things are weakened or outright die to it. skeins is nice when we need to get the rest of the cards out of our opponent's hand and as a 2x of it's fine in the side. thoughts?