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Delirium Skeins Discussion
2 weeks ago
1 month ago
Hi, I've run mono black decks in modern for a long while- there are a few great budget lists out there, but there are a few 'key styles' to be aware of. There are more than a few lists out on the site.
Style 1 - Mono black devotion, the most expensive, competitive version. You use Geralf's Messenger and Phyrexian Obliterator with gary to nuke your opponent. Go look up primers, and see what the recent tournament results are if this appeals.
Style two - Tribal. Cordial Vampire and Indulgent Aristocrat let you run a swarm of low-cost lifelink vampires, giving you great burn and creatures matchups in exchange for weakness to combo/control. A good disruption package will offset most problems. Similarly, there is a value zombies list out there built around Relentless Dead .
Style four 'value res'. Unearth , whip, draw/discard, cards that make value when they hit the battlefield. Its a little easily disrupted by the current meta, and usually just plays as a budget devotion deck. There are a few janky cards that pretend to be Smallpox and work well in this list.
Past that, there are the hybrid weird stuff decks and offbeat combos Sanguine Bond / Exquisite Blood , Korlash, Heir to Blackblade / Lashwrithe etc. All of them work if you just keep an eye on hand disruption and play to the local meta, but won't hold up in tournament land. If you are looking to spend money, focus on key 1 or 2 mana cards- Collective Brutality , Fatal Push , Thoughtseize , Inquisition of Kozilek etc.
If I can offer advice- if there looks to be a pioneer playerbase shaping up, look to play in that format. It should be cheap as cards rotate out of standard, and is far less likely to mandate insanely expensive cards. In a few weeks the most opressive combos will be banned (and likely things like Thoughtseize and oko). Since the most recently printed creatures are strongest, while mostly older spells are strongest, lean into that with card selection.
2 months ago
basically every 8-rack deck runs Delirium Skeins in their sideboard which works nicely when the opponent has Leyline of Sanctity but i currently dont need it and im currently not concerned about sideboard either. i need to make sideboards for my other decks, too.. but anyways, i mostly play against my friends and this deck should do fine against their's without a sideboard.
i think 10 Rack effects is enough, i dont need more Davriel, Rogue Shadowmage s. but i'll keep an open mind for the possibility.
Sign in Blood would be nice as top deck wars is unfavorable for 8-rack, but i'll play few matches against my friends and see what i can take off and if i need card drawing.
Waste Not is a fun card and i'll probably get a playset later and put it into a-so-called-sideboard as it could work in multiplayer games nicely. in a normal 1v1 its not really doing much. though, the card draw would be nice
2 months ago
For budget rack, Delirium Skeins is great, as is card draw like Sign in Blood . Getting into topdeck mode then winning there offers you a lot. Also, Davriel is better than a lot of other options- run four, he's a clock and discard two. Its really good.
Remember your sideboard- planning those cards lets you figure out where you are packing all your graveyard hate/combo hate/tron hate etc, leading to a much more complete plan. A transformative sideboard that becomes Blood Scrivener / Asylum Visitor / Liliana's Reaver / Abyssal Nocturnus creature aggro also informs the state of the mainboard, for example.
On the note of lands, I've had success with Sea Gate Wreckage . The colourless requirement does require working around, but it can be good.
Finally, for the sake of fun, Waste Not . Its great.
2 months ago
I've played a lot of modern vamps. Some of the best options are dirt cheap, so it makes for a great budget list to take to FNM. Most of the time I've been in mono black, but splashing for lietennant is fairly low-cost and low-risk for a great card.
For this list, Vampire of the Dire Moon , Vampire Cutthroat , Indulgent Aristocrat will do an amazing job filling out the one-drop slots. They are the 'best' budget setup I've found- great burn matchup and evasion/great deathtouch trades into bigger threats. They also play nice with Lashwrithe and Blade of the Bloodchief .
If your budget is tight enought that filling out with $1 1 drops seems rough, look at Guul Draz Vampire , Shadow Alley Denizen and Pulse Tracker alongside Stromkirk Condemned , Urge to Feed and direct damage like Gonti's Machinations and Bump in the Night . Playing a lot of 1 mana creatures that get pumped is really good, and evasion like intimidate makes something like mono-red burn but with hand disruption.
Two mana stronger options is Legion Lieutenant and Cordial Vampire (you can run Stromkirk Condemned , Dusk Legion Zealot or Cruel Celebrant ), and three is Vampire Nighthawk and Bloodthirsty Aerialist since you have them and want those slots for budget removal/carddraw. Gifted Aetherborn deserves a mention as it used to be cheap, but dire moon is frankly better and in print.
Next we come to the thing that makes budget mono-black king of the budget lists- cheap, effective spells. Sign in Blood is playable card-draw. Underworld Connections while far, far worse than Phyrexian Arena , and worse than bob still performs admirably. Delirium Skeins & Mind Rake devastates control players. Duress successfully hates out combo players. Standard cards like Mire's Toll & Drill Bit perform miracles. Cards like Flaying Tendrils can play at being one-sided boardwipes, and your sideboard has access to all manner of oddball cards that had too many copies to get expensive for modern- from Shadowfeed to Davriel, Rogue Shadowmage .
Grab some playtest tools and muck about- you will find a great deck within your budget that you can muck about with to perform well in your local meta.
3 months ago
Also I would cut Chittering Rats for something like Arterial Flow , Cackling Fiend , or even Caligo Skin-Witch . Heck, even Cunning Lethemancer is better - I would rather affect all opponents than just one, and putting a card back on top is just not satisfying for me. Your call though!
6 months ago
Cut Tortured Existence , Faith of the Devoted , Relic Putrescence , Caress of Phyrexia , Liliana, Death Wielder , Contagion Clasp , Delirium Skeins , Livewire Lash , Liliana's Influence , Gilded Lotus
6 months ago
Delirium Skeins occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.0%