Necrogen Mists

Legality

Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Mirrodin (MRD) Rare

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Necrogen Mists

Enchantment

At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player discards a card.

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Necrogen Mists Discussion

SynergyBuild on Commanders by Power Level [EDH Tier List]

4 days ago

Aphoticate perfectly fine double posts happen to the best of us xD.

Now onto why I doubt Kess Stax will work in tier 1.

TO start, 99 card commanderless colorless stax was a Tier 3 deck meant to prove every deck is worth tier three when built competitively. I would never call it tier one as is.

Now, mass discard? I would want some examples of that. I mean, I would love to see that.

I mean, Oppression, Bottomless Pit, and Necrogen Mists aren't exactly great unless you are really a black stax deck like Nath, and nath is about it. I mean monoblack stax can use it, but Kess breaking parity on that isn't really worth it.

You could run some good Blue/Red Stax (Blood Moon, Stranglehold, Back to Basics, and Arcane Laboratory) and just like have a couple cards that make opponents discard cards, but that is about it.


Also, you claim now that you aren't a cEDH guru, yet before you claimed that the reason behind Ishai's impressive showing in the competitive tier was due to her commander damage ability, and that with Vial Smasher, until I explained that outside of Yuriko/Edric/Blood Pod, a cEDH deck that deals damage through combat in general is bad, and you caved. (November 20th as archived)

Or, when you kept insisting that Wort was a tier 4 deck on this when it was listed Tier 3, and claiming that my 99 card colorless commanderless stax lsit was impossible, before again, caving under the realization you were wrong. (November 9th as archived.)

Or, when you claimed that Liliana, Heretical Healer  Flip and Erebos, God of the Dead weren't worth the spot they were given, until Soren841 and I explained to you how breaking parity and mono-black stax worked. Guess who caved? Hint, you. (November 8th as archived)

Or, when you were randomly asking people on this list about decks you should make outside of cEDH, completely wasting the use of the comment system, forgetting that the forums exist. You also dissed on Sidisi and Razaketh a bit. (November 6th as archived)

Or, when you wanted to know about Nath elfball, claiming it was too janky for cEDH, and I had to explain to you how the deck worked, and that tokens were a wincon, even without Earthcraft and Squirrel Nest. After I explained, you didn't respond. (October 23 as archived.)

Or, when you claim that Anafenza, the Foremost, a powerful stax hatebear deck that can shut down tons of Tier 1-2 combo decks on her own without an answer was 'unsynergistic' and Abzan Falconer was better than Gaddock Teeg. You caved to DangoDaikazoku, ForsakenxEDHx and me (October 20th as archived)

Or, when you enthusiastically claimed that something absurd was true or something considerably powerful was trash, someone else or me explains with common, rational sense that you are wrong.

And you cave

(Always as archived)

Do you see why I think you are conceited and have no idea what you are talking about?

PartyJ on This Card: Nath

5 days ago

I would suggest:

Not sure about the budget and if you are willing to add stax to the options, since it is very powerful in multiplayer EDH. See my list on my profile for other ideas.

Good luck!

tbjbenjamin on Golgari Holocaust

3 weeks ago

Hi ZendikariWol,

All decks have weaknesses. Wrath and Armageddon effects both exist in my meta and while wrath effects can be quite crippling it doesn't mean we should scoop. For Armageddon, you just have to run sufficient dorks and rocks. Decks that run Wrath effects will only usually have 2-3 of such effects in their decks and rebuilding is generally ok. Carpet of Flowers helps a great deal, since the decks that run wraths are mostly control decks that also run blue. If your meta has excessive board wipes then Meren of Clan Nel Toth may not be the way to go since it is a creature deck at it's core. You may not like hearing this but the plan against control with board wipes is usually stax since we do not have access to blue. You have to disrupt their hand and mana base through several means so your board remains relatively protected. Examine my list to see many of such effects. I would even board in Necrogen Mists or Oppression and board out some creature-hate against a controll-y meta.

With regards to competitive commander, an entire reddit sub exists with over 20,000+ subscribers. There is also a discord link and decklist metabase there if you are interested.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveEDH/

My opinion is that commander is designed to be a social format, and not necessarily a casual one. It can be easy to conflate the two terms. People enjoy doing and deriving fun from different things and cEDH appeals to some players, who wants to experiment with powerful old combos that are accessible within the format. You have mentioned that your house rules are no stax and no combo, which is perfectly fine if your playgroup wishes to play at that particular power level. Playgroup construction is more important than deck construction, so the key here is playgroup agreement of power levels. Likewise, if your playgroup enjoys a no holds barred approach playstle, it can be equally enjoyable. That being said, stax and combo isn't the problem. Communication is the problem. Like you said, don't be a big trash bag and play MLD if everyone accepts those as house rules. Tune your deck to your meta.

This link here, while slightly outdated, can explain it better than me. Do have a read:

https://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh/661263-playing-commander-to-win

SynergyBuild on Commanders by Power Level [EDH Tier List]

1 month ago

Nath is a popular discard-stax commander, that uses Necrogen Mists, Sadistic Hypnotist, Oppression, and Bottomless Pit along with a lot of general value cards like Root Maze, Manglehorn, Chains of Mephistopheles, Nether Void, The Abyss, Magus of the Abyss, green ramp like Birds of Paradise along with colorless rocks to pump its commander and other colorless stax options out onto the field.

The list can break parity with tap/stay-tapped effects using its massive tokens swarms and Earthcraft when under the effect of its own Winter Orb, Root Maze, Static Orb, etc.

Because the deck attempts to make each player discard lots of cards, Sylvan Library, Dark Confidant, Phyrexian Altar, Library of Leng, and other effects can synergies well to break parity.

Otherwise, the deck runs a normal Golgari-Stax deck, running black-tutors to fetch the colorless silver bullets like Sphere of Resistance against non-Prossh Food Chain lists like Tazri and green to make enough mana to still win.

Other notable cards sometimes run in this strategy are Mind Slash, Cryptolith Rite, Chord of Calling (with tokens it ends up decently), fast mana to cast Nath like Mana Vault, Lotus Petal, Grim Monolith, etc.


Ishkanah is the best golgari Food Chain list in the format, with Demonic Tutor, Grim Tutor, Vampiric Tutor, Imperial Seal, etc. to fetch the Chain, and to fetch Eternal Scourge there are a ton of green and black tutors.

With Delirium so easy to get between fetchlands, instants, sorceries, and Lotus Petals, Commune with the Gods and other self-mill cards milling over creatures and artifacts, etc. You can reasonably make infinite spiders with Food Chain, and if you can pay Ishkanah's cost you win.

WhichKing on Discarding Dragon Specters

1 month ago

I think you're going to have to take a direction with the deck. It seems that your deck is being pulled in too many different directions. Big finishers (with your commander being one), discard enablers, discard payoffs... the balance depends on how you want to take your deck.

If you want to stick with Crosis, I'd recommend building a control-ish deck with him at the top end (or close to it) of your mana curve. Take out your specters and dragons. Run more low-to-the-ground utility drops like Baleful Strix, Serendib Sorcerer, Liliana's Specter, Nin, the Pain Artist, Nivix Guildmage, Notion Thief etc. Run cards that force discarding like Necrogen Mists, Creeping Dread, Painful Quandary etc. Go heavy on removal and draw spells. Alongside your commander, you can have some big spells as a way to end the game when they go long, like Torment of Hailfire, Exsanguinate, deathcloud. Unless the vast majority of your cards are CMC 4 or below, the deck will be very clunky imo.

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