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Artifact Creature — Golem
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Mycosynth Golem Discussion
1 day ago
With your updated deck description, I shall try to provide some useful feedback.
Chained to the Rocks is a bad card for your deck. Currently, you have 4 mountains plus Evolving Wilds, giving you a fairly insignificant chance of having a mountain in play. Path to Exile would be a better card. It is instant speed, permanently exiles the creature, and the drawback is somewhat inconsequential.
Pia's Revolution is pretty useful with Artifact decks.
Tezzeret's Touch provides you a strong body for 3 mana, and provides some protection from removal. This would allow your otherwise passive artifacts, such as Mirrorworks, to have a fairly significant presence. Ensoul Artifact does much the same, though without the graveyard recursion. Animate Artifact is another choice, but most of your artifacts are fairly low costed, so your return will be fairly insignificant.
Given how many mana rocks you have, Paradox Engine would be a great card.
Wurmcoil Engine is a wonderful artifact card.
Tome Scour does nothing useful for you.
Darksteel Forge is expensive to cast, but you have a large number of mana rocks. Indestructible is always nice to have. Guardian Beast provides indestructible, as well as pseudo-shroud, but does not protect itself.
Mycosynth Golem could be a particularly fun card to run, allowing you to cast your artifacts for free.
2 weeks ago
TheRedGoat, thank you so much for taking the time to write your thoughts, plentiful as they are. You raise a lot of good points, so I'll try to share my thinking on all of them.
First of all, you're right about Mycosynth Lattice and Mycosynth Golem, and it's a big part of why I haven't decided to included them in the deck or not (aside from the cost, of course; 15 is a bit more than I'm willing to spend.) Inspiring Statuary is less good in this deck than it could be, but I think it's still worth an inclusion for now.
I should probably go back into the primer and reword the section about building the deck around Ghalta. I tried to strike a happy medium between the artifact side of the deck and the powering out my commander half. Metalwork Colossus is the epicenter of these two halves, and it's basically the only reason I went the artifact route in the first place. That being said, I agree with your analysis on various types of artifact decks in EDH, and I think moving forward, I'll be placing a stronger emphasis on the Value Town aspect of artifacts. I've already got a bit of a sacrifice subtheme, with Krark-Clan Ironworks and Trading Post, so it probably wouldn't take too much reworking. I may bolster that a bit as I move forward with the deck. Part of my reasoning is that Metalwork Colossus also lends itself to sacrifice engines very nicely as well.
I think that a voltron artifact deck would suit Ghalta pretty well, and to be honest a decent part of why I'm reluctant to go that route is because I'd need to rework the deck so heavily. I'm already suited more to a value game than an aggro, even if my commander can end things quickly. You mentioned removing Triumph of the Hordes for more consistent infect enablers as a way to lean into aggro, and I agree that it's one of the weaker cards in the deck. On the list of potential removals, it's pretty high, but it's mostly in here as a "gotcha" to take out an opponent or two out of nowhere. The amount of hate that Infect gets makes me reluctant to run a more potent effect, though. It'll probably be removed whether I focus more on aggro or value, to be honest.
I like the idea of some power/toughness value cards, and I do think this deck is slightly lacking in card advantage. Life's Legacy could be a nice effect, but since I already have Rishkar's Expertise I don't know if I'd want more than two mega-draw cards. Traverse the Outlands is cute, but it only has tons of value after I've cast my commander, at which point I probably don't need much more mana.
Moving away from artifact discussion,Pump spells are kind of neat as rituals. I'd never considered that idea before, and I think Primal Bellow at the very least deserves testing. I think that Bellow is the only one I'd be interested in testing, since it has the additional potential of being used to give Ghalta +9/+9 and turn him into a one-shotter (lands willing, of course.) Token generators are another way I could generate some extra power, and it's a big part of the reason Myr Turbine is in the deck right now. You mentioned Avatar of Might as well, and it's funny - when I first started drafting the deck, I originally toyed with the idea of a deck based around cost reduction, rather than artifacts. As the focus shifted, I dropped it in favor of other things, but I'll test it to see if it might be worth an inclusion. (Best case scenario, it ends up being Ezuri's Brigade part 2.)
Once again, thanks a million for taking the time to share your thoughts. There's a lot of great ideas here, and I'll be taking some time over the next few days to test them. You really went above and beyond discussing options for Ghalta acceleration and Artifact synergy, and I appreciate the time and effort that went into this. Happy brewing!
2 weeks ago
So I love your concept here, but I notice how you say you started out wanting to build around Ghalta, and so now I'm conflicted with wanting to add support to your artifact theme OR your commander's game-plan of "fatty tribal", cause I'm not so sure they work well with each other. Let me do a not-so-short breakdown of what I'm thinking.
I'd first point out that Mycosynth Lattice and Mycosynth Golem do not work together like people are saying. The lattice doesn't make cards in your hand into artifacts, so the golem doesn't reduce the cost of creatures that are not already artifacts in your hand. However the Golem would still help you cheat things like Colossus of Akros into play if you've got a ton of artifacts and the Lattice is great with Inspiring Statuary (good call on dropping Titania's Song first btw, that would just blow up your lands with the lattice out). Oddly enough, the Statuary is kinda bad in your current build because it doesn't reduce the cost of your artifact creatures, but I presume this without having tested the build.
Now, to do a light step on actually figuring out artifact support, there's the inherent issue of being green, and I'm not talking about the fact that green usually hates on artifacts. No, my point is that if you are "playing an artifact deck" normally that means one of three things (to me at least): You're aggro/volron with equipment and tokens; you're combo/control with tutors and protection for pieces; or you're playing value engines with your grave as another place to just get your artifacts from. The fact that green can't provide anything past the recursion and maybe the protection effects and tokens is why most people don't play mono-green artifacts. The support isn't necessarily there for the artifacts themselves. This is why Oviya isn't even a great artifact commander as all she does is make artifact tokens and otherwise doesn't care about artifacts at all. No if green does do any artifact strategy the only one it can pull off effectively, in my mind, is the voltron aggro one. Which Ghalta is well suited for, but if you really want to hammer down on building it that way, you'd need to really alter your build from its current point. For one Triumph of the Hordes, while a little sneakier than having Grafted Exoskeleton out, isn't as effective in the long run. Nissa, Vital Force for instance would also be very powerful as a value engine, but your build doesn't have a good slot for it yet.
For building around Ghalta more directly though, and taking the fatty tribal theme focus over artifacts, you've got a ton of options for cards to improve the build without breaking your budget. For card advantage alone you could be playing Life's Legacy. Hunter's Insight, Hunter's Prowess, Momentous Fall, even Traverse the Outlands if that isn't too high (I don't claim to know what your budget is). You also do not seem to have explored the idea of using pump spells as ritual effects for your commander. Aspect of Hydra and Primal Bellow when timed right, and in regards to your commander at least, could be like paying 1 mana to gain 7+. This is not to mention some of the undercosted creatures out there that may not be free to cast but certainly have ways to be far more powerful than they appear. Avatar of Might is one cheap fatty option, but did if you're willing to look at tokens you should also remember that Saber Ants, Broodhatch Nantuko, and Ant Queen are all solid options as well (if completely off flavor)
Anyway, that's some of what I'm thinking about your build and I'm not sure where to delve further unless you've already got it in mind of where you'd want to sit on those extremes. If you don't want to settle for one that's an option too of course, but it is the most challenging as well.
2 weeks ago
Wow, this is super off meta, that's really cool.
I definitely think having Inspiring Statuary in the deck is a must, especially if you're going for that artifact theme. If you want to take that one step further I would definitely suggest Mycosynth Lattice and Mycosynth Golem, you can essentially play out your entire deck from just those two, and everyone else becomes super vulnerable to green artifact removal, but you should be prepared with Darksteel Forge.
And aside from a couple of green creatures that you would loose, (you can always recast Ghalta, Primal Hunger for two with this deck anyways) you could run All Is Dust to remove everyone else's board, which would be nice.
Again, nice job breaking the mold though!
2 weeks ago
Bow of Nylea is a nice way to make your deck more aggressive.
1 month ago
Neheb, the Eternal will easily ramp you into the bigger spells
Darksteel Plate in the maybe board is worth it
Metalwork Colossus cheap to cast and still has the high cmc you need to deal damage
Hellkite Tyrant alt win-con?
Mycosynth Golem again, cheap to cast and still has the high cmc
All Is Dust good board wipe
Hammer of Purphoros haste for all your big guys
1 month ago
I would highly recommend trying to find room for Phage the Untouchable because you can cheat her in with conspiracy to one shot someone. Other lil funny jank card is Harmless Offering. Worst case, you donate someone behind a killbot and then could play bounce around the deathball. Best case, you replace all their creatures with killbots after donating them conspiracy. Also same with blades of velis vel or Endless Whispers. I have a couple other really good cards on my phone at home. Also Mycosynth Golem and that artifact that gives all your non artifact spells improvise. Inspiring Statuary or whatever it is called and storm out with free killbots. Also you could stand to make it really suck for them to kill your critters with Marionette Master and Pia's Revolution. Also Shared Animosity and Thrumming Stone and the real allstart Secret Salvage. I think Mary O'Kill has real potential to get ridiculous
2 months ago
Why the Mycosynth Golem? It seems like you don't really have that many artifact creatures to cast with it.