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Chains of Mephistopheles
If a player would draw a card except the first one he or she draws in his or her draw step each turn, that player discards a card instead. If the player discards a card this way, he or she draws a card. If the player doesn't discard a card this way, he or she puts the top card of his or her library into his or her graveyard.
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Chains of Mephistopheles Discussion
3 weeks ago
NOTE: While Chains of Mephistopheles is a great card, & stuff, it's too damn hefty, even in comparison to the more expensive Original Duals. It's not needed for the decks' purpose anyway; I already have Telepathy to know everyone else's hand anyway (Yep, I actually think it's far better than Gitaxian Probe. XP)
With all these pieces, I got to cut some things as well. Ideas? I still have to get to 99.
One last thing: Megalomania. How would such mass flicker cards like the ones you suggested work? Eerie Interlude just bounces creatures, & Parallax Wave is only temporary even if it returns to play... :/
3 weeks ago
Theme decks are the best kind, like I'm building a Bolas theme deck with a Huge splashy spell subtheme, the idea i had for it was to make it look like Bolas is the one casting the spells, this deck is also pretty fun looking. like damn some of the old cards while having a wall of text really are funny, my favourite was Chains of Mephistopheles. and what is a classic deck without the original counterspell or force of will if you're crazy enough to add that.
just because i love the cards in this and the theme i would give it a 10/10
4 weeks ago
I see little reason other than affordability/ban status to play the creature version over the non-creature version. Creatures are slower, easier to remove and a lot of the Maguses are more mana hungry than their counterpart.
1 month ago
it's a bit ironic to assemble the Avengers (aka The Gatewatch) to help to construct a Bolas-deck, but nevertheless here are my ideas:
First of all, I would discard :) the whole Nekusar-wheel-theme. Nekusar, the Mindrazer decks just do it better anyways and playing Wheel of Fortune, Reforge the Soul, Jace's Archivist or Windfall in your deck has some drawbacks. While they're great to enable your plan of using the opponents' graveyards, your decks' cmc is not low enough to exploit those cards. Additionally, your opponents would get a significant amount of cards out of it, too, which also undermines the whole handcontrol theme of your deck: What's the matter of making them discard through Nicol Bolas, the Ravager Flip, when you're helping them to refill their hands the next turn? Cards like Megrim, Liliana's Caress or Fell Specter would have to go as well because they're only effective with the aforementioned cards.
So my proposal is to focus on discard and control. Cards like Painful Quandary, The Eldest Reborn, Waste Not, Oppression and Chains of Mephistopheles fit well and should stay. You could add Skull Rend or Liliana's Specter. You could also add cards that let your commander re-enter the battlefield like Ghostly Flicker. Some ninjas like Silent-Blade Oni or Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni do not only fit your theme but let you cast your commander again.
You have to strengthen your control over the graveyards when you're making people discard. The Scarab God is already good here. But you need some more graveyard-hate like Relic of Progenitus or Phyrexian Furnace which give you a bit of a choice what to exile. Don't play Leyline of the Void in here.
So far I mentioned 8 cards which should be cut, so here are 22 more: Kess, Dissident Mage, Nightveil Specter, Mind's Dilation, Omniscience, Torment of Hailfire, Disrupt Decorum, Entreat the Dead, Anvil of Bogardan, Go for the Throat, Blasphemous Act, Stunning Reversal, Thrilling Encore, Leyline of Anticipation (most of the permanents don't have to be played at instant speed. Casting leyline is just doing nothing for the turn), Bloodchief Ascension, Countersquall, Desertion, Preordain, Thoughtseize, Library of Leng, Disciple of Bolas, Hour of Devastation, Tormenting Voice.
That's all for now. Good luck with your deck!
1 month ago
julls I do think Desecrated Tomb could work in your deck definitely could open up some interesting combos. Sac two tokens get a huge creature from your graveyard crate another token isn't bad. problem is you kind of need to have that engine running for it to get value. Its at least worth play testing to see if you get enough value out of it throughout a normal game.
Yeah dredge can be rough when you need the draw but you could look into other forms of card draw like: Greed, Underworld Connections, Arguel's Blood Fast, Erebos, God of the Dead, Mind's Eye but it can hurt not having one of these cards for the draw. But don't sleep on dredge its very good with graveyard decks.
Memory Jar would also be sick in this deck discards a shit ton of cards and you can make sure to hold it until you have means to use those discarded cards. Can also really screw with other players game plans.
Some random other suggestions that you might find interest in: Undead Gladiator, Asylum Visitor, Chains of Mephistopheles, Dark Deal, Nihilistic Glee, Necromancer's Stockpile, Bazaar of Baghdad, Sea Gate Wreckage, Black Market, Trading Post
1 month ago
+1 for Old School,
Also, I am totally making stax in this format with Nether Void, Invoke Prejudice, In the Eye of Chaos, Chains of Mephistopheles, The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, Energy Flux, and Land Equilibrium... wait that just sounds like my current deck... wait Blood Moon was printed in The Dark, sweet!
1 month ago
Black Staples in cEDH: Dismember, Night's Whisper, Dark Ritual, Fatal Push, Cabal Ritual, Ad Nauseam, Dark Confidant, Toxic Deluge, Leyline of the Void, Necropotence, Reanimate, Animate Dead, Necromancy, Entomb, Buried Alive, Rain of Filth, Bubbling Muck, Vampiric Tutor, Demonic Tutor, Imperial Seal, Grim Tutor, Chains of Mephistopheles, Nether Void, The Abyss, Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1 month ago
Geo963, what are the staple counters/black spells for cedh? this deck was originally casual and then turned into an investment and primer. and ive tuned it quite well, but i probably could trim for more staple cedh cards
i want to continue with testing my Chains of Mephistopheles + Anvil of Bogardan + Necropotence combo for a while, but it usually seems to be too much setup and chains can totally screw you when you cast it wrong, totally screws up the whole megrim/Waste Not+ Windfall + nekusar spike damage
im also debating running the best of the 2 mana Fork spells for wheels, but in cedh i think fork is mostly just cute