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Sterling Grove Discussion
1 week ago
EDHD is real. Check out my profile. Have 100 decks listed on this site.
Eldrazi Conscription is perfect for the exalted strategy. Think about it.
1 week ago
Eldrazi Conscription for that Sovereigns of Lost Alara trigger.
Sterling Grove to protect and search for whatever enchantment you need.
1 week ago
Hey, there's three cards in the maybeboard if you have them consider adding them main deck: Enlightened, Rector and Idyllic? Earthcraft and Nest is the infinite squirrelly combo and these cards can tutor for the combo. They can also tutor for Doubling Season or Parallel Lives; these cards are just as important because the majority of squirrels are tokens.
Other cards to consider adding:
- Sterling Grove: protect the combo or tutor for a piece of the combo.
- Cryptolith Rite: use tokens to make ramp.
- Skullclamp: sac tokens to draw cards.
- Eternal Witness: recur any card.
- Sun Titan: reanimate pieces of the combo, he's good with Sterling.
- Nature's Lore: tutor for Garden or Vista.
- Seedborn Muse
Cards to consider cutting:
- Isochron Scepter: not enough instants to make this worth it.
- Selesnya Cluestone
- Temple Bell
- Trading Post
- Unwinding Clock
- Darksteel Ingot
- Overwhelming Stampede
- Harvest Season
- Explosive Vegetation
- Rampant Growth
- Parallel Evolution
- Vitu-Ghazi Guildmage
Good luck with your deck.
2 weeks ago
Bonds of Mortality is a great addition.
Greater Auramancy has been on my radar for a long time now. It's the only piece missing from my Zur deck.
Sterling Grove is on my radar as well... Maybe I need to eat homemade sandwiches for lunch for a month or so and put that money aside :)
2 weeks ago
Oh no doubt I really like your idea of using Control Magic type of auras in the deck! If i didnt already own alot of (rather expensive) cards like Greater Auramancy, Sterling Grove, Opalescence, and other pillowfort/stax based cards to make up my list of enchantments, id definitely consider putting in several control-give-me-your-shyte spells because you seldom ever see that! Take your opponents things while making tuvasa bigger?! The risk of player hate-reward of winning is too close to ecstasy now that i think about it xD
2 weeks ago
First off... you are wanting to build the wrong Neheb list...
Secondly, it depends. If you have fun playing each deck you have, build more! Otherwise, make sure you upgrade the decks that you don't enjoy playing as much, or sell them (or parts of them, and save others to put in other, more fun decks), so you can make more fun decks.
Really, if you want a deck that can be 'meta-controlling', you should figure out the main gameplans of your playgroup, and attack it from another angle. This will consistently make you win more, and even if you get targetted, will commonly lead to a 50%+ Winrate.
My Local Game Store has an issue of not running sweepers, opting for a lot of single-target, cheap removal spells. I decided to build an enchantress-combo list (Earthcraft/Squirrel Nest) prison deck, which I used because I can run Greater Auramancy, Privileged Position, Sterling Grove, and being in WG, Teferi's Protection and Heroic Intervention for the occasional 1 or 2 sweepers the control deck finds.
I also made a Karametra, God of Harvests deck with Archetype of Endurance, Sigarda, Host of Herons, Temur Sabertooth, Avacyn, Angel of Hope, Selfless Spirit, Privileged Position, and Asceticism to combat all of their removal entirely, these decks have only ever been interacted with Cyclonic Rift before, and as both are majorly ramp lists at heart, I can just empty my hand after.
Other times I have heard stories of times where every player is running infinite token decks and so run Rakdos Charm to combat them, and Tainted AEther, or Authority of the Consuls. There even was a story about a playgroup in which everyone played artifact decks, so the girl showed up with a Kataki, War's Wage stax list, running cards like Hokori, Dust Drinker, Linvala, the Preserver, and a bunch of walkers like Elspeth, Gideon, Ugin, and even a Karn as wincons.
2 weeks ago
Solemnity is a really strong card that shutdowns Atraxa, Praetors' Voice, Vorel of the Hull Clade, Mikaeus, the Unhallowed-Triskelion/Walking Ballista combo, Marchesa, the Black Rose reanimator and general infect decks. Since you're not running any of these strategies, swap in Solemnity. It comboes with Phyrexian Unlife (you can't die since you can't have poison counters), Lost Auramancers (that can be immediately killed with High Market to bring Decree of Silence so no one but you can play Magic), Glen Elendra Archmage (counter every single noncreature spell your opponents cast, since she can't have -1/-1 counters), Dark Depths (the land enters without counters, then immediately turns into Marit Lage - but she can still be easily Swords to Plowshares'd), Glacial Chasm (if it can't get counters, you can keep it forever to never be attacked), Mystic Remora (free draws for the rest of the game) and Arixmethes, Slumbering Isle (it enters as a creature). It also comboes with Elephant Grass (more pillowfort), Force Bubble, Delaying Shield and Kitchen Finks, but they're not that good on their own. However, you need to protect your combo pieces: Solemnity+Decree of Silence win combo cost a whopping 11 mana, and can be disrupted easily. So you need protection of targeted removal. Privileged Position, Sterling Grove and Greater Auramancy can do the trick, and the Grove doubles as a tutor. // Enchanted Evening comboes with Aura Thief+High Market, Cleansing Meditation, Calming Verse, Opalescence+Mirari's Wake (all opponents' lands will be 0/0s and will be put into the graveyard while yours will be 1/1s) and Serra's Sanctum. // Omniscience + an Enchantress + Approach of the Second Sun is a free win if uncountered. // If I can suggest some improvements on your manabase: Exotic Orchard, Rogue's Passage, Prairie Stream and Yavimaya Coast are cheap replacements for Thornwood Falls, Woodland Stream and 2 Islands. Weirding Wood is better than Gift of Paradise, because it can draw you a card via Clue. Card advantage is crucial in EDH, and you should run at least 6 sources of realiable draw. That's why I recommend you to run Mesa Enchantress, Verduran Enchantress, Kruphix's Insight, Mystic Remora, Rhystic Study, Sylvan Library (comboes with Abundance), Argothian Enchantress. // Eladamri's Call tutors your creatures. Ground Seal and Rest in Peace shutdown graveyard stategies. Open the Vaults is a really good budget replacement of Replenish and plays around Ground Seal (better replace Hanna, Ship's Navigator - she's too slow). Courser of Kruphix, Land Tax, Mirari's Wake, Burgeoning and Exploration are great ramp Leyline of Anticipation allows you to play on your opponents' turn. Copy Enchantment gives more utility. Search for Azcanta Flip fills the graveyard for Open the Vaults and easily flips into a good utility land. Seal of Primordium, Seal of Cleansing, Banishing Light, Stasis Snare, Cast Out, Prison Term, Act of Authority, Detention Sphere, Imprisoned in the Moon, Song of the Dryads, Grasp of Fate and Aura Shards take care of troublesome permanents. Energy Flux, Aura of Silence and Stony Silence deals with artifact decks. Austere Command, Wrath of God, Supreme Verdict and Cyclonic Rift are great boardwipes. Teferi's Protection is the best protection spell ever released. Karmic Justice and Martyr's Bond tell people to don't mess with you. Collective Restraint is another Propaganda effect (comboes with Prismatic Omen).
2 weeks ago
First off, a big apologies for the delay in getting back into this comments section. Work got the better of me for a week and I've hardly had the time to get on here! Thank you all so much though for pitching in :) It's beyond appreciated!
I'll address each of you individually in here as well, but as a bit of general information, v1.1 of the deck is only incorporating changes from hkhssweiss as his suggested cards were the only cards I was able to get my hands on before the work rush. I do have some from other user's suggestions, but I wanted to get my hands on all suggested cards, not just the few I had.
Thankfully, I do now have a decent amount of spare time on my hands and will be visiting my LGS to purchase and try out all card suggestions within the next couple of days.
@MillersEdge - Wow, dude, what an effort you put into that, thank you ever so much! It's quite clear you know your stuff :)
Regarding ramp, I can certainly appreciate your observation. The lack of mana rocks in this deck is definitely a big thing. I really like the idea of Coalition Relic, Astral Cornucopia and Everflowing Chalice and believe all 3 of these will make it into v1.2. Forest retrieval cards are nice but can become dud draws fairly quickly in the game. I've added both Nature's Lore and Three Visits to the MaybeBoard anyway and will play-test with them as well. I want to get both Birds of Paradise and Noble Hierarch in somehow too.
Phyrexian Scriptures has also made it onto the MaybeBoard. It's certainly an eye-catcher with all 3 abilities having relevance, and I do like the idea of Saga's (never played them before). In saying that, one of the common players at my playgroup has both a Sharuum the Hegemon deck and a Breya, Etherium Shaper deck. We'll see how it goes.
In terms of the prison related cards, I'm actually probably going to move away from this plan, as to do it effectively you do seem to dedicate a large amount of slots. However, Spike Weaver genuinely looks amazing. I've no doubts that he'll see some MainBoard action in the future.
Privileged Position is currently in for a late game pillow fort strat involving Privileged Position, Sterling Grove and Avacyn, Angel of Hope. To be honest though, the three of these cards might be swapped later for others anyway as they really only hold relevance to themselves. Or I'll simply add Shalai, Voice of Plenty as well as Privileged Position as quite a few other users are also recommending it. Armageddon is hated at my playgroup, but I don't mind being 'that-guy' every so-often ;) I'll play test it this week and see what the general reaction is.
The walkers got a pretty big shuffle around since you might have last seen the deck, but I do see the relevance of Tezzeret the Seeker and Garruk Wildspeaker. Tezzeret the Seeker could come in handy if I can increase my mana rock amount, and I think I prefer the idea of him over Garruk Wildspeaker. Will get back to you with results.
Leyline of Anticipation has landed in the MaybeBoard with high chances of being MainBoarded. I genuinely forgot all about this badboy!
Really really like the idea of Nexus of Fate, looking forward to seeing what sort of shenanigans I might be able to pull off with that. Savor the Moment is definitely competitive, but the late game appeal of Nexus of Fate is striking me more.
I'll definitely jump onto your list as well and have a fish around :) As well as throwing in my own 2 cents! Thanks again.
@Aragon_Neotrix - Thank you! Definitely hearing you regarding proliferate-able targets. I'm hoping to improve on that in the next iteration with counter based mana rocks etc.
Aetherworks Marvel is amazing, hardly surprising it was banned in standard eh?! I did admittedly forget about energy and experience counters. I'm sure this is going to make it onto the MainBoard.
I'll take a closer look over your own version over the next day or two for some more proliferation ideas, and will throw in any suggestions I have myself :)
@ManSauce - Man, every suggestion here is on point. Thank you so much!
Captain Sisay is a card that wouldn't have occurred to me. Very likely become one of the main tutors in the deck. Mox Amber and Noble Hierarch - Yep. Definitely keen on both. Ramp is becoming the main concern of the next update.
Plaxcaster Frogling is another one that I don't think I ever would have found. Interested to see how I can use it. Shalai, Voice of Plenty has received a few recommendations now. I'll be likely to find a spot for this too. Llanowar Reborn could pretty much be an auto-include.
I've jumped onto your profile and bookmarked your own version to go over in more depth. Thanks heaps for the suggestions :)
@Jimmy_Chinchila Man I've been spamming Search for Azcanta Flip in Magic Arena lately and for whatever reason it didn't even occur to me here! Thalia's Lancers is indeed solid but I think it might lack by comparison to some other tutors. Regardless it's been added to play testing.
Forgive me for the bulk of cards sitting in the MaybeBoard, my worst ability is choosing what has to come out! Aha. As mentioned earlier though, I've setup a large chunk of time to go through all current suggestions over the next couple of days and look forwards to coming back to cull the list :)
Thanks heaps for the suggestions, I've also bookmarked yours to go over in more depth!
@hkhssweiss - You're more than welcome my man! :) Thanks heaps for coming back again! Aha.
Not to worry regarding the planeswalker suggestions. I may be a little rash with my initial judgement of Vraska, Golgari Queen but admittedly the current objective has me focused on getting other utility spells in over planeswalkers.
Assassin's Trophy is amazing. I'd expect to see this in just about every G/B deck moving forward! Likely to make it in, just need to allocate a spot. Djeru, With Eyes Open is definitely one I hadn't seen before! His second ability might just make him a prime tutor candidate. Windgrace's Judgment is also phenomenal. Most of my games have 5+ people making this awfully attractive.
Shalai, Voice of Plenty has popped up 3 times now making her impossible to ignore! xD Pir, Imaginative Rascal is beyond amazing and as the more important part of Doubling Season is almost guaranteed a spot.
Thanks heaps yet again my dude! I do more than appreciate you sticking around :)
Ty all! Now to testing, woo!