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Loyal Retainers
Creature — Human Advisor
Sacrifice Loyal Retainers: Return target legendary creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield. Activate this ability only during your turn, before attackers are declared.
trippy_mcfly on
Cumly Cube
1 month ago
Introducing Cumly Cube 1.3! Two years ago, Cumly Cube was updated to Cumly Cube 1.2, creating a balanced cube and wonderful play experience for all involved. Despite these changes, there remained some minor flaws in the card pool. I am now pleased to announce that, after extensive research and design, Cumly Cube has reached a final form. No card is too powerful. No card is too weak. Synergy is abundant. Both the draft and play experiences are dynamic, exciting, and new. There will be no more major updates to Cumly Cube 1.
120 cards have been removed, and 120 cards have been added. Here are the changes, provided with brief justifications:
REMOVED:
ARTIFACT
- Everflowing Chalice: mana rocks should cost 3 or have a drawback
- Glass of the Guildpact: too weak
- Heraldic Banner: encouraged mono-colored decks
- Illuminated Folio: too weak
- Jayemdae Tome: too weak
- Loreseeker's Stone: too weak
- Mind Stone: mana rocks should cost 3 or have a drawback
- Null Rod: too much of a hate card
- Pithing Needle: too powerful with Urza's Saga
- Pyromancer's Goggles: too narrow
- Retrofitter Foundry: too powerful with Urza's Saga
CREATURE
- Bomat Courier: too powerful against slow starts
- Deathpact Angel: creates a Cleric token, not a supported creature type
- Dimir Cutpurse: too powerful
- Elves of Deep Shadow: too obvious of a choice as a cumly
- Golos, Tireless Pilgrim: too powerful
- Hostage Taker: too powerful
- Kalamax, the Stormsire: too powerful
- Loyal Retainers: too obvious of a choice as a cumly
- Monastery Mentor: too powerful
- Moonveil Dragon: pumping the team makes for anticlimactic endings
- Murktide Regent: we’ve seen enough of this card already in other formats
- Ornithopter of Paradise: too obvious of a choice as a cumly
- Phantom Tiger: too weak
- Risen Reef: too powerful
- Shadrix Silverquill: creates Inkling tokens, not a supported creature type
- Tatyova, Benthic Druid: too powerful
- Thraben Inspector: we’ve seen enough of this card already in other formats
- Toxrill, the Corrosive: creates Slug tokens, not a supported creature type
ENCHANTMENT
- Alpha Authority: hexproof makes for less interesting games
- Favorable Winds: too weak
- Offspring's Revenge: too narrow
- Pernicious Deed: too powerful of a board wipe
- Rally the Ranks: too weak
- Song of Freyalise: too typical a card for green
LAND (types are grouped together in this list)
- Tolarian Academy: too powerful
- Arid Mesa: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Bloodstained Mire: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Flooded Strand: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Marsh Flats: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Misty Rainforest: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Polluted Delta: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Scalding Tarn: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Verdant Catacombs: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Windswept Heath: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Wooded Foothills: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Badlands: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Bayou: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Plateau: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Savannah: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Scrubland: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Taiga: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Tropical Island: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Tundra: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Underground Sea: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Volcanic Island: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
- Hissing Quagmire: creature lands are too versatile and discourage disciplined drafting
- Lavaclaw Reaches: creature lands are too versatile and discourage disciplined drafting
- Lumbering Falls: creature lands are too versatile and discourage disciplined drafting
- Shambling Vent: creature lands are too versatile and discourage disciplined drafting
- Needle Spires: creature lands are too versatile and discourage disciplined drafting
- Raging Ravine: creature lands are too versatile and discourage disciplined drafting
- Stirring Wildwood: creature lands are too versatile and discourage disciplined drafting
- Wandering Fumarole: creature lands are too versatile and discourage disciplined drafting
INSTANT
- Abnormal Endurance: too typical a card for black
- Aerial Predation: too narrow
- Alchemist's Gift: too weak
- Arbor Armament: too weak
- Autumn's Veil: too narrow
- Betrayal of Flesh: too weak
- Bladebrand: too typical a card for black
- Brainstorm: we’ve seen enough of this card already in other formats
- Cathartic Pyre: too much utility for an instant
- Comet Storm: one-sided board wipes need to be focused on creature type
- Consider: too typical a card for blue
- Crippling Chill: too typical a card for blue
- Crush: spot artifact removal is not to be part of Cumly Cube
- Dawn Charm: other cards in Cumly Cube fill this role better
- Dive Down: hexproof makes for less interesting games
- Divine Offering: spot artifact removal is not to be part of Cumly Cube
- Dragon's Fire: too typical a card for red
- Electrify: too typical a card for red
- Fell the Pheasant: too narrow
- Gainsay: too narrow
- Gut Shot: too weak
- Heroic Intervention: other cards in Cumly Cube fill this role better
- Hold the Line: too narrow
- Into the Core: spot artifact removal is not to be part of Cumly Cube
- Lash of Thorns: too weak
- Make Your Mark: too weak
- Opt: too typical a card for blue
- Overload: spot artifact removal is not to be part of Cumly Cube
- Pitfall Trap: too narrow
- Repulse: too typical a card for blue
- Scrap: spot artifact removal is not to be part of Cumly Cube
- Seedtime: too narrow
- Shatter: spot artifact removal is not to be part of Cumly Cube
- Smash: spot artifact removal is not to be part of Cumly Cube
- Smashing Success: spot artifact removal is not to be part of Cumly Cube
- Smite: too narrow
- Turn to Frog: turns a creature into a Frog, not a supported creature type
- Unsummon: other cards in Cumly Cube fill this role better
SORCERY
- Blasphemous Act: too typical a card for red
- Chart a Course: too much utility
- Cleansing Wildfire: too much utility
- Cultivate: too typical a card for green
- Disentomb: too typical a card for black
- From the Ashes: too narrow
- Funeral Rites: too much utility
- Gitaxian Probe: too typical a card for blue
- Necromantic Summons: too typical a card for black
- Nighthaze: other cards in Cumly Cube fill this role better
- Persist: too typical a card for black
- Pirate's Prize: too much utility
- Ponder: too much utility
- Reanimate: too typical a card for black
- Recover: other cards in Cumly Cube fill this role better
- Serum Visions: too typical a card for blue
- Spitting Earth: too typical a card for red
- Thoughtcast: too typical a card for blue
ADDED:
ARTIFACT
- Coat of Arms: encourages building around creature types
- Patchwork Banner: encourages building around creature types
CREATURE
- Arahbo, the First Fang: supports the Avatar and Cat creature types
- Avatar of the Resolute: supports the Avatar creature type
- Autonomous Assembler: supports the Assembly-worker creature type
- Bag End Porter: supports the Dwarf creature type
- Breya, Etherium Shaper: supports the Human and Thopter creature types
- Captain Storm, Cosmium Raider: supports the Human and Pirate creature types
- Captivating Unicorn: supports the Unicorn creature type and supports enchantment decks
- Centaur Battlemaster: supports the Centaur creature type and functions as a strong payoff for prowess decks
- Chronicler of Heroes: supports the Centaur creature type
- Conclave Cavalier: supports the Centaur and Elf creature types
- Conclave Mentor: supports the Centaur creature type
- Crosis, the Purger: supports the Dragon creature type
- Fear of Exposure: supports the Nightmare creature type and supports enchantment decks
- Ghostly Changeling: supports all creature synergy decks
- Gimli of the Glittering Caves: supports the Dwarf creature type
- Glissa Sunseeker: supports the Elf creature type
- Graveshifter: supports all creature synergy decks
- Gwenna, Eyes of Gaea: supports the Elf creature type
- Haunt of the Dead Marshes: supports the Elf and Nightmare creature types
- He Who Hungers: supports the Spirit creature type
- Heedless One: supports the Avatar and Elf creature types
- Jungle Creeper: supports the Elemental creature type
- Jungle Delver: supports the Merfolk creature type
- Kataki, War's Wage: supports the Spirit creature type and functions as artifact hate
- Keiga, the Tide Star: supports the Dragon and Spirit creature types
- Kiora's Follower: supports the Merfolk creature type
- Kumena, Tyrant of Orazca: supports the Merfolk creature type
- Lagonna-Band Trailblazer: supports the Centaur creature type
- Marwyn, the Nurturer: supports the Elf creature type
- Master Skald: supports the Dwarf creature type
- Mine Layer: supports the Dwarf creature type
- Neighborhood Guardian: supports the Unicorn creature type
- Promised Kannushi: supports the Human and Spirit creature types
- Realmwalker: supports all creature synergy decks
- Reveka, Wizard Savant: supports the Dwarf creature type
- Seraphic Steed: supports the Angel and Unicorn creature types
- Soul of Zendikar: supports the Avatar and Beast creature types
- Steadfast Unicorn: supports the Unicorn creature type
- Stingmoggie: supports the Elemental creature type and functions as artifact hate
- Sygg, River Cutthroat: supports the Merfolk creature type
- Vineshaper Mystic: supports the Merfolk creature type
- Wistful Selkie: supports the Merfolk creature type
- Yargle and Multani: supports the Elemental and Spirit creature types
- Zacama, Primal Calamity: supports the Dinosaur creature type
ENCHANTMENT
- Aura of Silence: functions as artifact and enchantment hate
- Aura Shards: functions as artifact and enchantment hate
- Blessed Sanctuary: supports the Unicorn creature type
- Corrosion: functions as artifact hate
- Embargo: interesting prison piece for stasis decks
- Font of Fortunes: card advantage at a fair price for Cumly Cube
- Gate to Phyrexia: functions as artifact hate and supports the niche but possible sacrifice deck
- Impending Disaster: a useful piece for aggressive decks or niche graveyard decks
- Shared Animosity: supports all creature synergy decks
LAND (types are grouped together in this list)
- Drowned Catacomb: completing the full set of check lands
- Glacial Fortress: completing the full set of check lands
- Hinterland Harbor: completing the full set of check lands
- Sulfur Falls: completing the full set of check lands
- Cascade Bluffs: completing the full set of filter lands
- Graven Cairns: completing the full set of filter lands
- Mystic Gate: completing the full set of filter lands
- Sunken Ruins: completing the full set of filter lands
- Wooded Bastion: completing the full set of filter lands
- Darkwater Catacombs: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands
- Desolate Mire: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands
- Ferrous Lake: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands
- Fire-Lit Thicket: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands
- Flooded Grove: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands
- Overflowing Basin: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands
- Skycloud Expanse: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands
- Sunscorched Divide: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands
- Viridescent Bog: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands
INSTANT
- Accelerate: supports prowess decks
- And They Shall Know No Fear: supports all creature synergy decks
- Artifact Mutation: functions as artifact hate and supports the Saproling creature type
- Bandage: supports prowess decks and is also funny
- Brokers Charm: charms are an important part of Cumly Cube
- Charge Through: supports prowess decks
- Cremate: supports prowess decks
- Mirrodin Avenged: supports prowess decks
- Poison the Blade: supports prowess decks and offers deathtouch in green instead of its typical color, black
- Pressure Point: supportsli prowess decks and offers tapping in white instead of its typical color, blue
- Steady Progress: supports prowess decks as well as slower proliferate decks
- Sugar Rush: supports prowess decks and offers power boost in black instead of its typical color, red
- Treacherous Greed: supports the niche but possible sacrifice deck
- Turf Wound: a strange tempo card that fits the ethos of Cumly Cube
- Warriors' Lesson: supports prowess decks and might end up as green Ancestral Recall
SORCERY
- Altar of Bone: supports the niche but possible sacrifice deck
- Aphetto Dredging: supports all creature synergy decks
- Apocalypse: total game resets are an important part of Cumly Cube, because you end up playing more Cumly Cube!
- Ashen Powder: a more situational and odd piece for reanimator decks
- Blood for Bones: a more situational and odd piece for reanimator decks
- Breath of Life: offers reanimation in white instead of its typical color, black
- Broken Bond: functions as artifact and enchantment hate yet also ramps
- Channel the Suns: a strange yet useful mana-fixer. Out with fetch lands, in with sorcery WUBRG!
- Cloak of Feathers: supports prowess decks
- Crippling Fear: supports all creature synergy decks
- False Dawn: supports prowess decks and might offer mana-fixing in niche situations? Even if this card is pretty useless, it screams Cumly Cube
- Grim Tutor: tutoring is a small part of Cumly Cube but very important in the right decks
- Growth Spasm: offers ramp, mana-fixing, and supports the Eldrazi creature type
- Hymn of Rebirth: offers reanimation in green and white instead of its typical color, black
- Ice Storm: land destruction is a small part of Cumly Cube but a necessary balance, and not usually in green
- Jace's Triumph: there are Jace planeswalkers in Cumly Cube
- Mana Vapors: a strange tempo card that fits the ethos of Cumly Cube
- Many Partings: offers mana-fixing and food
- Migratory Route: offers mana-fixing and supports the Bird creature type
- Obzedat's Aid: offers reanimation in black and white
- Ordered Migration: supports the Bird creature type
- Raise the Palisade: supports all creature synergy decks
- Resourceful Return: a more situational and odd piece for black graveyard decks and artifact decks
- Ribbons of Night: offers direct damage in black instead of its typical color, red
- Rise of the Witch-king: a more situational and odd piece for reanimator decks
- Riveteers Confluence: similar to a charm
- Safewright Quest: offers slight mana-fixing in green and white
- Solve the Equation: tutoring is a small part of Cumly Cube but very important in the right decks
- Sweep the Skies: supports the Thopter creature type
- Temporal Machinations: supports artifact decks
- Unnatural Restoration: supports proliferate decks
- Urborg Repossession: a more situational and odd piece for black graveyard decks
Profet93 on
Yosei Stasis
7 months ago
All good points. Here are some other cards to throw your way.
Karmic Guide - Nothing special but worth mentioning. Bonus points with skullclamp.
Smothering Tithe - White good stuff, which can get repetitive so I understand why it likely isn't included.
Loyal Retainers - Fun little guy, gets thalia as well for what it's worth. Probably not the best card but thought it might be something.
Academy Rector - Can get your 2, 6 mana enchantments, an effective blocker and easy to sac in this deck.
I really like how you built this staxy version.
Profet93 on
Competitive Gaddock Teeg
1 year ago
indieinside -I'm glad I was able to provide you with meaningful feedback for your colorless deck. While this deck is not in my wheelhouse, I hope I can help
In your draw section, none of that is actually draw. You desperately need more draw IMO. You have a decent amount of anti-synergy with your artifacts and creatures. I like your nullrod, perhaps a Karn, the Great Creator for redundancy should you wish? Or even swap out null for karn to allow you to run artifact ramp yourself and not use a dork like Birds of paradise?
Regarding maximizing your commander's ability, I recommend the following....
survival of the fittest - Tutor (for...)
Gisela, the Broken Blade Meld - Throw into the grave with survival and tutor for....
Bruna, the Fading Light Meld - Which you cast to bring gisela which merges into...
Brisela, Voice of Nightmares Meld Meld - Which in conjunction with your commander severely limit's their abilities to play spells.
Should you go the above route, a potential inclusion would be Loyal Retainers - Toss expensive creature in grave with survival, use retainers to recur.
Sun Titan - Recursion (works with fetchlands too)
Final thoughts - You need to buckle down and observe what your meta's primary cards are. For mine, it was ETB's more than activated abilities and built my control/hatebears/stax decks as such. Some anti-synergy is fine but from my limited perspective, it's too much. You really need more draw as well, especially given your low avg CMC. Hope these suggestions helped. Looking forward to your response.
trippy_mcfly on
Cumly Cube
3 years ago
Introducing Cumly Cube 1.1! 6 months ago, Cumly Cube was launched to resounding approval. However, in response to feedback from fans, several cards in the pool were deemed unplayable, uninteresting, or overpowered. For Cumly Cube's six month anniversary, I have chosen to update the card pool. Here are the changes, provided with brief justifications:
REMOVED:
- Abomination: too weak in power level
- Anger of the Gods: while board wipes are an essential part of the game, this card is too simple in effect in comparison to other red board wipes in the card pool
- Birthing Pod: synergizes poorly with the rest of the card pool
- Black Dragon: too weak in power level
- Black Lotus: this card and other "power 9" cards have been removed from the pool to allow players to play with less well known cards
- Bloodcurdling Scream: too weak in power level
- Cavalier of Night: too on-theme for a black card
- Cinderclasm: while board wipes are an essential part of the game, this card is too simple in effect in comparison to other red board wipes in the card pool
- Dack Fayden: too powerful
- District Guide: synergizes poorly with the rest of the card pool
- Dockside Extortionist: too strong in multiplayer games considering the dominance of the "treasure matters" archetype in this card pool
- Dread Reaper: too weak in power level
- Edric, Spymaster of Trest: too powerful
- Eviscerator: too weak in power level
- Grim Strider: too weak in power level
- Hypnox: too weak in power level
- Jungle Creeper: too weak in power level
- Mind Bomb: too weak in power level
- Mox Emerald: this card and other "power 9" cards have been removed from the pool to allow players to play with less well known cards
- Mox Jet: this card and other "power 9" cards have been removed from the pool to allow players to play with less well known cards
- Mox Pearl: this card and other "power 9" cards have been removed from the pool to allow players to play with less well known cards
- Mox Ruby: this card and other "power 9" cards have been removed from the pool to allow players to play with less well known cards
- Mox Sapphire: this card and other "power 9" cards have been removed from the pool to allow players to play with less well known cards
- Nicol Bolas, the Deceiver
: too weak in power level
- Nix: too weak in power level
- Obelisk of Alara: too weak in power level
- Patagia Golem: too weak in power level
- Phantasmagorian: too weak in power level
- Prismite: too weak in power level
- Rootcoil Creeper: synergizes poorly with the rest of the card pool
- Shattering Blow: too strong of an answer to the artifact archetype
- Shatterskull Smashing Flip: MDFCs are interesting cards, but it does not make sense to have only one in the card pool
- Smelt: too strong of an answer to the artifact archetype
- Smog Elemental: too weak in power level
- Spirit of the Night: too weak in power level
- Storm Spirit: too weak in power level
- Tibalt's Trickery: introduces too much variance for an enjoyable experience
- Unholy Strength: too weak in power level
- Vampiric Link: too on-theme for a black card
- Wooded Bastion: this was included on error instead of its Golgari counterpart
ADDED:
- Alpha Authority: an interesting enchantment that should help protect large creatures
- Archfiend of Spite: a strong value play or reanimation target for black, which was deemed the lowest in power level upon initial testing
- Blade Splicer: works well with the artifact and golem archetypes, plus is a human for tribal matters cards
- Chillbringer: works well with the blue aggro archetype, plus is an elemental for tribal matters cards
- Comet Storm: an interesting damage spell that will be replacing more typical red board wipes
- Crippling Chill: works well with the disruptive blue plan
- Darksteel Forge: a strong payoff for the artifact archetype
- Diabolic Tutor: a solid addition to black
- Distant Melody: a strong value play for tribal decks
- Door of Destinies: another tribal matters card
- Dread Presence: a solid addition to black
- Flashfreeze: a conditional counter spell
- Funeral Rites: a solid addition to black
- Golem Foundry: works well with the artifact and golem archetypes
- Gyruda, Doom of Depths: companions are now part of the card pool! This one fits well with the reanimation archetype
- Icehide Golem: works well with the artifact and golem archetypes
- Illuminated Folio: an artifact draw engine, common in this card pool
- In Bolas's Clutches: a strong and fun card
- Infernal Contract: a solid addition to black
- Jegantha, the Wellspring: this companion is an elemental for tribal matters cards
- Keruga, the Macrosage: this companion is an incentive to play with some of the clunkier but more fun cards in the cube
- Kokusho, the Evening Star: a solid addition to black and a dragon for tribal matters cards
- Lifecrafter's Bestiary: a strong draw engine for green creature decks, an archetype not well supported in this card pool
- Loyal Retainers
: works well with the reanimate archetype, plus is a human for tribal matters cards
- Mindleech Mass: a strong reanimation target and payoff for black decks, plus is a horror for tribal matters cards
- Moldervine Reclamation: a strong draw engine and another enabler for lifegain decks
- Monastery Mentor: a strong payoff for prowess decks, an archetype not well supported in this card pool
- Morophon, the Boundless: another tribal matters card
- Nicol Bolas, God-Pharaoh: a strong card used to bolster Grixis in the card pool
- Pact of the Serpent: a strong value play for tribal decks
- Retrofitter Foundry: works well with the artifact archetype
- Skeletal Wurm: a strong reanimation target and payoff for black decks
- Sludge Monster: a good creature that works very well with Toxrill, the Corrosive, plus is a horror for tribal matters cards
- Sorin's Vengeance: a payoff for black that may add diversity to deck archtypes
- Soul Foundry: yet another artifact engine that is a major part of this card pool
- Storm the Vault Flip: this card was meant to be included in the pool originally for the "treasure matters archetype"
- Teferi, Timebender
: another Teferi planeswalker, included mainly to justify the continued inclusion of Teferi's Sentinel
- Time Elemental: a soft lock with Stasis and also a good interactive card for blue decks
- Torgaar, Famine Incarnate: a strong reanimation target and payoff for black decks
- Twilight Mire: this card was meant to be included in the pool originally and is good fixing for Golgari, a color combination encouraged in this pool
- Worldfire: a very wacky card that is the epitome of Cumly Cube
Last_Laugh on How Did EDH Become So …
3 years ago
@DemonDragonJ - Teferi's Protection, Academy Rector, Consecrated Sphinx, Deadeye Navigator, Temur Sabertooth, Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite, Survival of the Fittest, Food Chain, Cloudstone Curio, Ashnod's Altar, Phyrexian Altar, Seedborn Muse, Loyal Retainers, Mikaeus, the Unhallowed, Palinchron, Force of Will, Mana Drain, Cavern of Souls, Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx, Grave Pact, Dictate of Erebos, Sylvan Library, Fierce Guardianship, etc. etc. etc.
MFBOOM on
Till the End of Tayam | **PRIMER**
4 years ago
Great list, I am currently building my own deck and was wondering what you thought of Loyal Retainers and Grakmaw, Skyclave Ravager
cfost827 on Karador EDH Deck (Hulk/Boonweaver Combo's …
4 years ago
Hey All,
So.. I'm basically looking to reduce the strength of my current Karador deck to 75%-80% (or 8/10), as it's currently much too strong for the Meta I play in with my buddies. Perhaps make it more Toolbox or Graveyard focused (i.e. fill it up), and have more ways to win through combat rather than ONLY infinite combos (cEDH). Basically make it more fair and fun to play against (including for me lol).
My Deck List: My Tapped out Deck list link here https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/karador-edh-boonweaverhulk-combos/
Background: This is the first deck I ever built about 7 months ago (built 2 more since). However, the problem was I built it off of a cEDH deck (minus the expensive land base) and didn't realize how powerful it will be. I really don't need to fill up my graveyard either (i.e. Entomb Hulk, Boonweaver, etc works just fine). I'm basically looking to completely change my Karador format but I'm still relatively new to MTG (mostly played my buddies decks for the past 2 years).
The strategy of my deck is basically to combo out (go infinite) as fast as possible. My deck relies on a lot of the common Karador combo's pieces (I have many different possible combo's): Protean Hulk, Boonweaver Giant, Pattern of Rebirth, Karmic Guide, Reveillark, Saffi Eriksdotter, Loyal Retainers, Sun Titan, Acidic Slime, etc etc. Obviously, I'm planning on removing Hulk, Boonweaver + Pattern of Rebirth. I'll probably keep the Karmic Guide/Reveillark combo though.
I also run a strong tutor suite with Demonic Tutor, Enlightened Tutor, Worldly Tutor and other strong cards like Academy Rector and extensive hate bears Gaddok Teeg, etc etc - (I try to only use when in a bind). So it would make sense to remove these.
What happens when I play this deck in our Meta: is that I don't really interact with the board/players much, as I'm just trying to tutor and find my infinite combo's as quickly as possible. This tends to annoy some people as the game will have interactions between players all over and then all of a sudden - I combo out infinitely and win the game. So every game either comes down to A) Me winning.. or B) Each player focusing their attention on me to kill me as quickly as possible, which is understandable, as I can go infinite quite quickly. So you can see why I need to reduce this and try to make my deck more fun to play with for everyone (including myself).
About my Meta/Playgroup: We always play 4 way player EDH (sometimes even 6!). There are some pretty optimized and strong decks. I would say generally decks in our meta are optimized anywhere from 60% - 80% (or 6/10 - 8.5/10). Most decks are valued mostly under $700 (which is on the high end). Infinite combo's are not thought of highly, though there a few decks that run them but it's not their main/only win cons. Our games generally last anywhere from turn 10 - turn 13 - but some decks have gone off turn 4-6 and won. So it does vary but mostly, our games go longer.
My thoughts on how to reduce my decks power (adjust to my meta) and make it more fun below - : - Remove the most powerful tutors - Remove Protean Hulk + Boonweaver Giant/Pattern of Rebirth/Academy Rector and other infinite combos - Remove most of the hate bears - Add more dredge - Add more cards to win through combat (Craterhoof Behemoth) - Transition deck to a Karador Toolbox box deck (can win through combat) ?
Please let me know your thoughts any advice will be helpful! Feel free to include links to any Karador deck lists you think I might find useful. Sorry for the long post but looking forward to all feedback
Thanks guys! :) -Cory