Sorin's Vengeance deals 10 damage to target player and you gain 10 life.
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Sorin's Vengeance Discussion
1 week ago
1 month ago
Someting you could do is playing ramp things. Crypt Ghast, Extraplanar Lens+Snow-Covered Swamp or Heartless Summoning to get your demons much faster. Also Sorin's Vengeance would be a good finisher then.
Your discard plan is a little bit too far away from your plan to get out the deamons because you cant to both at the same time, discard is only good in early turns and in combination of early board presence from your side. You should keep things like Inquisition and Distress but not that much. You also need room to win the game. Maybe 4 Discard 4-6 removals/wipes the rest demons and ramp. But you have to test and look for yourself what you want to do with your deck.
i hope this helps.
1 month ago
Hey man, love the deck. Always a fan of Kuro. But I just think that Nightmare and Squelching Leeches don't deserve a slot here. Additionally, Sorin's Vengeance, while flashy, only targets a single player, and ends up being fairly mediocre in EDH. I think you should really consider more boardwipes: Mutilate is phenomenal. Additionally, with Kuro, Pitlord on the battlefield, Horobi, Death's Wail becomes an instant boardwipe. If you want more boarwipes, Toxic Deluge, Decree of Pain and Damnation are the way to go. You also might want to consider more targeted removal such as Malicious Affliction. Falkenrath Noble and Victimize also seems mainboard worthy.
2 months ago
I like your style. I would move Gatekeeper of Malakir to the main board. Other than that have you considered Liliana of the Dark Realms? She really helps you ramp into everything. Really nicely. I run Sorin's Vengeance in mine. Have a look: Mono Black Devotion
4 months ago
I would swap out Sorin's Vengeance for Temporal Extortion. I'm not sure you want 4 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx . I've had it a few of times in my mono black devotion deck where by Turn 2 I have a swamp and Nykthos and I can't cast any creatures until Turn 3. Have you played this at FNM? How does your mana hold up? Love the Gifted Aetherborn. This guy has a big future.
5 months ago
6 months ago
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Okay, so I love the changes you've made to this deck. I especially love your clever addition of scrying mechanics, so that you can manipulate the cards Jeleva exiles. Crystal Ball, for example, is perfect. I'd check out Fated Conflagration, Fated Return, or Fated Infatuation as potential additional scry effects. Sacrifice mechanics are also brilliant, since it's in your opponents' best interest to leave Jeleva alive, and you need to force a re-cast. Brilliant.
You've also added a lot of "haymakers" or "gamechangers" like Worst Fears, Cruel Ultimatum, etc.Many of these are great, but I feel obligated to mention a quick note on power level -- depending on who you play with, sometimes "extra turn" or "control someone else's turn" effects are frowned upon, or at least, the average power level of your friends' decks may be lower than those turn-control effects. Just be considerate, and remember that the most expensive cards don't always equate to the best cards for your deck (you may not be able to tell, but I'm a big proponent of budget deck-building, haha). Anyways, to the details:
I don't think you need Mind Over Matter, Price of Knowledge, Mnemonic Wall, and some haymakers like Searing Wind, Blood Tribute (Jeleva is your only Vamp, and she'll often tap to attack unless you give her vigilance through equipment, which seems wasteful) and Sorin's Vengeance and maybe some extra turn stuff. The reason I say this is that you don't need to cast a haymaker every single turn to win a game -- you just need enough to gain advantage and capitalize on it. You've put in scrying, which reinforces going for quality over quantity with your wind conditions. Furthermore, I wouldn't put in Traumatize or Liliana Vess from your SB unless you really want to -- they're not much valued added.
To swap in your SB, my most valuable card-cutting advice is to look for effects that your desired card will replace. For example Spelltwine's effect mirrors (and probably is better than) the effect of Mnemonic Wall, so that's a ripe card to swap. As another example, Necromantic Selection might be a fairer version of Plague Wind, which I'm sure your friends would appreciate (also has the benefit of destroying Jeleva, so that you can recast). The exception is when you don't just want to replace an effect, you want to add more of the effect, like with Lim-Dul's Vault. I'd put that card in for something like Mind Over Matter, just a straight swap of "I want this effect" versus "this doesn't help me a ton". However, one of the most rewarding things about deckbuilding is tuning your own deck, so I won't insult your intelligence and explain every card swap to you (: just remember that playtesting is hugely important, and you can playtest without having paper copies of every single card -- just put in a similar (or worse) card and see how you like it.
On that note, you should be sure to notice during playtesting how much card draw you're wanting. Grixis colors are awesome for card draw, and card draw is often necessary to maintaining your fuel during the course of a game. Granted, Jeleva is kinda like free card draw, but if you ever spend a game with 20 cards in exile and only 2 in hand, that's when I'd tweak the number of dedicated draw engines. Treasure Cruise, Staff of Nin, Preordain, Anticipate, Carnage Altar even. The cool thing about drawing is that it gives you more haymakers without actually having copies in your deck (since you'll go through your deck faster), and also ensures you get enough support to actually make the win happen (through land, ramp, utility spells, etc).
Sorry about the novella, but I hope some of this was useful! Best of luck with Jeleva-- you've chosen a cool and flavorful commander, and I hope all goes well for you. As always, reply if I can do anything else.