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When you play Phantasmagorian, any player may discard three cards. If a player does, counter Phantasmagorian.
Discard three cards: Return Phantasmagorian from your graveyard to your hand.
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3 days ago
The main reason for Deep Analysis over Flash of Insight is Laboratory Maniac. Is some of my combo for Nooze is exiled or otherwise inaccessible due to gameplay, I can Dread Return the Laboratory Maniac and flashback Deep Analysis.
I actually had Noxious Revival and Diabolic Intent in the list to start with, along with cards like Windfall, some of the signets, etc. But a lot of them were dropped for more removal. Timetwister/Memory's Journey lines are the best for repeatedly recycling my library, to use Beast Within + Reality Shift to exile my opponents libraries. Winds of Rebuke isn't needed for this.
Entomb, Necromancy, Reanimate, Life // Death and the like were a package I couldn't run with my Food Chain package, Flash/Protean Hulk package, Laboratory Maniac package, Counterspell Package, Card Draw Package, Tutor Package, Removal Package, and Ramp Package. I just didn't have the space.
Ad Nauseam is a card that is too expensive opening hand, and doesn't instantly win me the game like Hermit Druid can, so I would rarely tutor it. It is a great card for storm, but not exactly for many other lists.
Survival of the Fittest/Apprentice Necromancer can be a great boon for many decks that need to reanimate a Protean Hulk, however I am a Food Chain deck at first, and a Hermit Druid list second. Flash/Protean Hulk is probably beneath Laboratory Maniac in terms of how much I want to focus on it. I would most definently recommend it to a Flash/Protean Hulk list wanting a single-card win-con (as long as you have a creature card in hand). I may eventually run it, but for right now I do in fact have a reason for not doing it.
4 days ago
Hey, if you want to make your deck more competitive, Witch-Maw colors are great for combo.
Hermit Druid is a famous combo, in which if you have no basic lands in your deck, you mill the whole thing into your graveyard. With a turn one Forest + Gemstone Caverns or Lotus Petal or something, by turn 2 you can mill your deck.
Narcomoeba will return from the graveyard to the battlefield, and if you play a land Bloodghast will return too! Fatestitcher can return for a single mana if you need it. As long as you have three creatures, you may flashback Dread Return a Necrotic Ooze back to your library, your whole library is in your graveyard, but remember, Phantasmagorian can discard any cards you may have accidentally drawn.
You use Wall of Roots's ability, and get a . Put that mana into Blighted Bat's ability, giving Necrotic Ooze haste. Tap Necrotic Ooze to Devoted Druid's ability, getting , then untap with Devoted Druid's second ability. Tap it again, but this time to Channeler Initiate's ability, and get another mana. Use both Devoted Druid's second ability and Channeler Initiate's ability over and over again to make mana, and put it all into Walking Ballista's ability to put infinite +1/+1 counters on it. Then use Walking Ballista's other ability to remove all of those counters, killing each of your opponents.
Easy win, one card (Hermit Druid), turn 2 win.
Demonic Tutor, Vampiric Tutor, Imperial Seal, Eladamri's Call, Green Sun's Zenith, Summoner's Pact, Worldly Tutor, Eldritch Evolution, Sylvan Tutor, Grim Tutor, Beseech the Queen, and cards of that nature can fetch it up, leading to ~20 "one card combos".
Flash + Protean Hulk also allows you to find Grand Abolisher, Cephalid Illusionist, and Nomads en-Kor, allowing you to win turn 1, if you have Lotus Petal or Gemstone Caverns or Mana Crypt or Chrome Mox or Mox Diamond, a land, and Flash + Protean Hulk, isn't that a fast win!
Other than that, self-mill combo-decks that put their whole library into their graveyard all are able to protect against the likes of Faerie Macabre and stuff of that nature by running Memory's Journey and Deep Analysis and Phantasmagorian, so if they attempt to exile some of your combo, you can shuffle it back into your library, draw it, and discard it all to save yourself! Krosan Reclamation, Think Twice, and stuff of that nature are occasionally run too!
5 days ago
I think you're right, I'll replace some removal with card draw. Ad Nauseam is probably good, I just don't like the thought of getting hit for huge amounts of damage by Phantasmagorian and some of the more expensive reanimation targets. I think I'm gonna test it anyway. I have all the good rocks in my Arcum Dagsson deck right now, but if this ends up being any good I will get more or switch them over. Charcoal Diamond isn't really that bad. It's played in Sidisi, Undead Vizier Ad Nauseam decks too, but I may cut the Peat Bog or something if it becomes a big problem. If I can get my hands on a Mikaeus, the Unhallowed I'll pick it up. Thanks a ton for the suggestions I'll update the list when I get some more time.
2 weeks ago
I run a similar build to this but opted out of the Food Chain strat. A card that has worked wonders for me in instances where combo pieces are still left in my hand after druid has gone off is Sadistic Hypnotist allowing me to pitch them, off Ooze. This functions the same as Phantasmagorian but gives you the additional utility of discarding your opponent's hand in the long game against decks like Blood Pod.
Another Card I have in testing is Krosan Restorer. Her ability, while powerful, might seem too slow in the majority of games but her use comes primarily off Ooze in instances where the additional 1-2 mana might be necessary.
Just wanted to know your thoughts on these additions/changes to the deck?
2 months ago
The main cards to add for this effect would be:
Triskelion and Mikaeus, the Unhallowed for the most straightforward combo, and the Buried Alive you have to put them in, preferably with Rune-Scarred Demon. You recur the Demon fetching Vindicate, then bring the Mikaeus/Triskelion Combo out by sacing the Demon. This means Buried Alive can win the game with the commander as a one card combo. Phantasmagorian can be used if you end up with any number of the combo pieces in hand.
Other cards to add include Imperial Seal, Grim Tutor, Diabolic Intent, Culling the Weak, Dimir Machinations, Corpse Connoisseur, Mana Crypt, Mana Vault, Memnite, Shield Sphere, Ornithopter, Grim Monolith, Phyrexian Walker, Chrome Mox, Lotus Petal, Defense Grid, Dark Confidant, etc.
Cards you can drop:
3 months ago
You could try Chart a Course , Looter il-Kor or Magus of the Bazaar Shinen of Flight's Wings in blue, maybe Phantasmagorian from black. Red has 2 major advantages draw /discard like Faithless Looting & Burning Inquiry and the Flameblade Adept, though blue does have Cunning Survivor...
- So Flash as it happens there are a few cards that could make Ideas Unbound work, first off Leyline of Anticipation, then not in colour but Savage Summoning and Scout's Warning
Hope that is of some help, good luck brewing your deck.
4 months ago
If you don't want to run Burning Inquiry you could try a couple of Phantasmagorian, discard one early then trigger when you are ready to use the discard 3 of your choice... I'm tweaking a Hollow One deck myself and I've added a bunch of cards to the maybe board that might give you some ideas, see - Zombie Hollow one