Loyal Retainers
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Loyal Retainers

Creature — Human Advisor

Sacrifice Loyal Retainers: Return target legendary creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield. Activate this ability only during your turn, before attackers are declared.

Profet93 on Grumpy Old Man Syndrome

1 month ago

indieinside -I'm glad I was able to provide you with meaningful feedback for your colorless deck. While this deck is not in my wheelhouse, I hope I can help

In your draw section, none of that is actually draw. You desperately need more draw IMO. You have a decent amount of anti-synergy with your artifacts and creatures. I like your nullrod, perhaps a Karn, the Great Creator for redundancy should you wish? Or even swap out null for karn to allow you to run artifact ramp yourself and not use a dork like Birds of paradise?

Regarding maximizing your commander's ability, I recommend the following....

survival of the fittest - Tutor (for...)

Gisela, the Broken Blade  Meld - Throw into the grave with survival and tutor for....

Bruna, the Fading Light  Meld - Which you cast to bring gisela which merges into...

Brisela, Voice of Nightmares  Meld  Meld - Which in conjunction with your commander severely limit's their abilities to play spells.

Should you go the above route, a potential inclusion would be Loyal Retainers - Toss expensive creature in grave with survival, use retainers to recur.

Sun Titan - Recursion (works with fetchlands too)

Final thoughts - You need to buckle down and observe what your meta's primary cards are. For mine, it was ETB's more than activated abilities and built my control/hatebears/stax decks as such. Some anti-synergy is fine but from my limited perspective, it's too much. You really need more draw as well, especially given your low avg CMC. Hope these suggestions helped. Looking forward to your response.

trippy_mcfly on Cumly Cube

1 year ago

Introducing Cumly Cube 1.1! 6 months ago, Cumly Cube was launched to resounding approval. However, in response to feedback from fans, several cards in the pool were deemed unplayable, uninteresting, or overpowered. For Cumly Cube's six month anniversary, I have chosen to update the card pool. Here are the changes, provided with brief justifications:

REMOVED:

  • Abomination: too weak in power level
  • Anger of the Gods: while board wipes are an essential part of the game, this card is too simple in effect in comparison to other red board wipes in the card pool
  • Birthing Pod: synergizes poorly with the rest of the card pool
  • Black Dragon: too weak in power level
  • Black Lotus: this card and other "power 9" cards have been removed from the pool to allow players to play with less well known cards
  • Bloodcurdling Scream: too weak in power level
  • Cavalier of Night: too on-theme for a black card
  • Cinderclasm: while board wipes are an essential part of the game, this card is too simple in effect in comparison to other red board wipes in the card pool
  • Dack Fayden: too powerful
  • District Guide: synergizes poorly with the rest of the card pool
  • Dockside Extortionist: too strong in multiplayer games considering the dominance of the "treasure matters" archetype in this card pool
  • Dread Reaper: too weak in power level
  • Edric, Spymaster of Trest: too powerful
  • Eviscerator: too weak in power level
  • Grim Strider: too weak in power level
  • Hypnox: too weak in power level
  • Jungle Creeper: too weak in power level
  • Mind Bomb: too weak in power level
  • Mox Emerald: this card and other "power 9" cards have been removed from the pool to allow players to play with less well known cards
  • Mox Jet: this card and other "power 9" cards have been removed from the pool to allow players to play with less well known cards
  • Mox Pearl: this card and other "power 9" cards have been removed from the pool to allow players to play with less well known cards
  • Mox Ruby: this card and other "power 9" cards have been removed from the pool to allow players to play with less well known cards
  • Mox Sapphire: this card and other "power 9" cards have been removed from the pool to allow players to play with less well known cards
  • Nicol Bolas, the Deceiver: too weak in power level
  • Nix: too weak in power level
  • Obelisk of Alara: too weak in power level
  • Patagia Golem: too weak in power level
  • Phantasmagorian: too weak in power level
  • Prismite: too weak in power level
  • Rootcoil Creeper: synergizes poorly with the rest of the card pool
  • Shattering Blow: too strong of an answer to the artifact archetype
  • Shatterskull Smashing  Flip: MDFCs are interesting cards, but it does not make sense to have only one in the card pool
  • Smelt: too strong of an answer to the artifact archetype
  • Smog Elemental: too weak in power level
  • Spirit of the Night: too weak in power level
  • Storm Spirit: too weak in power level
  • Tibalt's Trickery: introduces too much variance for an enjoyable experience
  • Unholy Strength: too weak in power level
  • Vampiric Link: too on-theme for a black card
  • Wooded Bastion: this was included on error instead of its Golgari counterpart

ADDED:

Last_Laugh on How Did EDH Become So …

2 years ago

@DemonDragonJ - Teferi's Protection, Academy Rector, Consecrated Sphinx, Deadeye Navigator, Temur Sabertooth, Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite, Survival of the Fittest, Food Chain, Cloudstone Curio, Ashnod's Altar, Phyrexian Altar, Seedborn Muse, Loyal Retainers, Mikaeus, the Unhallowed, Palinchron, Force of Will, Mana Drain, Cavern of Souls, Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx, Grave Pact, Dictate of Erebos, Sylvan Library, Fierce Guardianship, etc. etc. etc.

khaleen on Devotion to White Angels

2 years ago

And what are your thoughts about Loyal Retainers?

MFBOOM on Till the End of Tayam | **PRIMER**

3 years ago

Great list, I am currently building my own deck and was wondering what you thought of Loyal Retainers and Grakmaw, Skyclave Ravager

cfost827 on Karador EDH Deck (Hulk/Boonweaver Combo's …

3 years ago

Hey All,

So.. I'm basically looking to reduce the strength of my current Karador deck to 75%-80% (or 8/10), as it's currently much too strong for the Meta I play in with my buddies. Perhaps make it more Toolbox or Graveyard focused (i.e. fill it up), and have more ways to win through combat rather than ONLY infinite combos (cEDH). Basically make it more fair and fun to play against (including for me lol).

My Deck List: My Tapped out Deck list link here https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/karador-edh-boonweaverhulk-combos/

Background: This is the first deck I ever built about 7 months ago (built 2 more since). However, the problem was I built it off of a cEDH deck (minus the expensive land base) and didn't realize how powerful it will be. I really don't need to fill up my graveyard either (i.e. Entomb Hulk, Boonweaver, etc works just fine). I'm basically looking to completely change my Karador format but I'm still relatively new to MTG (mostly played my buddies decks for the past 2 years).

The strategy of my deck is basically to combo out (go infinite) as fast as possible. My deck relies on a lot of the common Karador combo's pieces (I have many different possible combo's): Protean Hulk, Boonweaver Giant, Pattern of Rebirth, Karmic Guide, Reveillark, Saffi Eriksdotter, Loyal Retainers, Sun Titan, Acidic Slime, etc etc. Obviously, I'm planning on removing Hulk, Boonweaver + Pattern of Rebirth. I'll probably keep the Karmic Guide/Reveillark combo though.

I also run a strong tutor suite with Demonic Tutor, Enlightened Tutor, Worldly Tutor and other strong cards like Academy Rector and extensive hate bears Gaddok Teeg, etc etc - (I try to only use when in a bind). So it would make sense to remove these.

What happens when I play this deck in our Meta: is that I don't really interact with the board/players much, as I'm just trying to tutor and find my infinite combo's as quickly as possible. This tends to annoy some people as the game will have interactions between players all over and then all of a sudden - I combo out infinitely and win the game. So every game either comes down to A) Me winning.. or B) Each player focusing their attention on me to kill me as quickly as possible, which is understandable, as I can go infinite quite quickly. So you can see why I need to reduce this and try to make my deck more fun to play with for everyone (including myself).

About my Meta/Playgroup: We always play 4 way player EDH (sometimes even 6!). There are some pretty optimized and strong decks. I would say generally decks in our meta are optimized anywhere from 60% - 80% (or 6/10 - 8.5/10). Most decks are valued mostly under $700 (which is on the high end). Infinite combo's are not thought of highly, though there a few decks that run them but it's not their main/only win cons. Our games generally last anywhere from turn 10 - turn 13 - but some decks have gone off turn 4-6 and won. So it does vary but mostly, our games go longer.

My thoughts on how to reduce my decks power (adjust to my meta) and make it more fun below - : - Remove the most powerful tutors - Remove Protean Hulk + Boonweaver Giant/Pattern of Rebirth/Academy Rector and other infinite combos - Remove most of the hate bears - Add more dredge - Add more cards to win through combat (Craterhoof Behemoth) - Transition deck to a Karador Toolbox box deck (can win through combat) ?

Please let me know your thoughts any advice will be helpful! Feel free to include links to any Karador deck lists you think I might find useful. Sorry for the long post but looking forward to all feedback

Thanks guys! :) -Cory

Kiyomei on 京 An illusion? What are you hiding? (cEDH-$T4KS) 京

3 years ago

Updated it finally to my current Version that I own and Ordered me a Archon of Emeria!!!

  • I'm probably going to take Loyal Retainers out for Archon of Emeria once it arrives, Since I've been going less and less for retainers during "yisan" anyway and since I'm not on the "Jin-retainer" anymore I feel like it's time for him to retire for a while... Especially with the power the new Archon brings!!!

  • As for Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy I'm not so sure yet. You can always let me know if you find something exciting! (I mean it can be explosive but I'm just not 100% sure if it's worth it due to lack of testing on my part)

(PS: I went to check that dead website Moxsomething and holy moley, I knew it was going to die from the start but I didn't expect it to be so badly designed compared to this and completely deserted xD)

Zhugo12 on Karadorable [cEDH Primer]

4 years ago

smackjack yes. Loyal Retainers +Saffi Eriksdotter is the only combo in th that can get out from under Torpor Orb and the related effects.

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