Legendary Planeswalker — Dack
+1: Target player draws two cards, then discards two cards.
-2: Gain control of target artifact.
-6: You get an emblem with "Whenever you cast a spell that targets one or more permanents, gain control of those permanents."
|Have (2)||firemind12 , gildan_bladeborn|
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|Ravnica Allegiance: Mythic Edition (RNAMED)||Mythic Rare|
|Eternal Masters (EMA)||Mythic Rare|
|Vintage Masters (VMA)||Mythic Rare|
|Conspiracy (CNS)||Mythic Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Dack Fayden occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.02%
UBR (Grixis): 0.46%
Dack Fayden Discussion
3 days ago
It seems like you're running burn as your wincon.
Here are some cards that might help.
Since these are symmetrical burn, you could also run Glacial Chasm and stall it out. This is also the most important land card to run with these mono red sorcery finishers. Your Pariah is also a god level card with this setup. You might also consider Heartless Hidetsugu as a combo with these 2 cards.
For more drastic changes, you can fix around your landbase to cut a lot of nonbasics and add basics with a load of fetchlands, such as Fabled Passage, Prismatic Vista, , Ash Barrens, Terramorphic Expanse, Evolving Wilds, Myriad Landscape, Warped Landscape, some Panorama fetches, and keeping Flooded Strand + Scalding Tarn + Arid Mesa. I have this landbase in another of my burn decks and its fully sufficient for tri-colour commanders. In white, you get access to Land Tax as well so it helps further fix your mana - although in my experience with this landbase I would say its not even necessary.
With a basic land landbase, it opens you up to more burn, such as Price of Progress, Burning Earth. It also opens you up to hard stax cards if you have a vendetta against someone: Magus of the Moon, Blood Moon, Back to Basics.
An alternative package you can consider with your wheels is Narset, Parter of Veils and Alms Collector to discard their entire hand. You already have Smothering Tithe as well. Psychic Possession is also insane with wheels as it lets you draw 14 off a single wheel.
I would also just add Underworld Breach because its straight up insane.
You can also try Mana Geyser for a super explosive turn by recasting it from the graveyard again.
Dack Fayden is both a ramp card and a way to dump cards into your graveyard.
Some cards I see that you could also try cutting/changing are:
Land Tax - you can run ramp artifacts instead, such as Surveyor's Scope. Surveyor's Scope is an excellent card with many fetchlands as you can tap them to sac as a cost, then activate Surveyor's Scope for up to 3 basics untapped since your fetchland is no longer on the field. Or basically any other 2 mana rock will do.
I would consider Ral, Izzet Viceroy a bit too slow.
Long live our Overlord Sevinne
4 days ago
2 weeks ago
Ok, so after last games, I decided to make some more changes. I want to make the deck leaner in creatures.
Others: 1. Yisan, the Wanderer Bard untapping him every turn and activating him for less 2. Faithless Looting , Frantic Search , Windfall getting the more expensive creatures in the graveyard for reanimation with Kenrith.
2 weeks ago
It's too expensive for cEDH, and it doesn't have any immediate effect. No ETB effects, so usually you have to wait a full turn to actually do anything with it. It's also a massive target, as nobody want their stuff stolen. Compare that to something like Dack Fayden. It's much less mana, but even besides that, it immediately impacts the game. If Dack required you to wait a full turn cycle for his effect, he would see much less play as well.
2 weeks ago
Awesome article Suns! I really liked the part about how to know when it's time to retire your deck (I too, am a lover of bullet-point lists).
Also, yes, too soon. R.I.P Dack Fayden
2 weeks ago
dude you just try to win with 1-2 attacks. why should I infect my deck with Narset of the Ancient Way? I would rather play Narset, Parter of Veils, Dack Fayden, Narset Transcendent or a card which I completely overlooked Strionic Resonator. Sry mate: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/the-way-of-a-jeskai-monk-budget-1/
3 weeks ago
+1 from me. Looks fun and bonkers and evil. The Counterspell suite is 100. Avg cmc 1.8
Not into too many creatures? Consecrated Sphinx is massive with wheels. Cavalier of Flame is fiery. I really want the new Rielle, the Everwise. Kozilek, Butcher of Truth is just massive but may save you from decking out.
Anywho I hope you'll check my deck and tell me what you think! Have fun!
1 month ago
@Annexus: Yes I totally agree with your thoughts about Timetwister but not with those to Wheel of Fortune. Budget options for those 2 cards are for sure / Time Spiral and Echo of Eons but you definitely need some wheels in your deck and Wheel of Fortune is the really strong, but the deck wouldn't lose much strength if you play Windfall and Echo of Eons/Time Spiral instead of Timetwister/Wheel of Fortune.
The two other Narset are cool flavourwhise but I personally thought that there were simply better alternatives:
I think the deck has only like two slots at maximum for "win more" cards.
At the moment I play Thousand-Year Storm and Aggravated Assault. TStorm cannot be cut because I won almost every game with him as soon as he touched the field. But maybe Narset Transcendent could be a replacement for Aggravated Assault. Narset is a bit more versatile but sometimes you don't hit any extraturn/combat and then narset is a lil bit worse than the Assault, because with the assault you gain another try with Narset, Enlightened Master and if you hit Time Spiral you get ANOTHER attack and with the assault you always have atleast 2 attempts per turn to hit a another turn/combat spell.
Narset, Parter of Veils is a good card but for me atleast I found a lot cards I liked more but can be a budget option JTMS. If you pla atleast 3+ wheel cards in this deck, she could be worth, but with only 2 wheels, there's lacking synergy.
JTMS is just insane and has fallen out of favor or forgiveness just like Narset, Enlightened Master, JTMS is a walkin Brainstorm and toolbox. It's a great feeling when Time Stretch is stuck in your hand and you can put it back on your deck.
Dack Fayden is also pretty good to steal your opponent's ramp pieces but I think he's the one who could maybe replaced by Winter Orb or like you mentioned Teferi, Time Raveler. I loved Teferi, but some dudes from the Narset Discord have somehow talked me out of Teferi...
Man I would really enjoy to play some 1vs1 games of different lists/cuts, to scientifically prove which list is the fastest and after that to test it in a real environment against legit decks to check which card/list is good in the current meta. (Do you have Xmage?)
I see your point on Gamble, sure this card has the opportunity to fail, but narset is just a "if you have luck you win deck" and with this cards I'm also gambling high, but yeah cards to replace gamble are: Idyllic Tutor/Merchant Scroll or like you mentioned Ponder/Preordain.
I tested Jace, Wielder of Mysteries a lot and in 99% of the time he was a dead card or not needed... when you draw your entire library you just win with Nexus of Fate/Beacon of Tomorrows but most of the time you opponents surrender before that ever happens after like your 5 extra turn... And if you really want another wincon then I would always prefer Bribery because this card is savage and in almost every cedh match somebody is playing Thassa's Oracle or another winon which you could possibly steal. Or just play the good old Approach of the Second Sun.