Legendary Planeswalker — Dack
+1: Target player draws two cards, then discards two cards.
-2: Gain control of target artifact.
-6: You get an emblem with "Whenever you cast a spell that targets one or more permanents, gain control of those permanents."
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|Ravnica Allegiance: Mythic Edition (RNAMED)||Mythic Rare|
|Eternal Masters (EMA)||Mythic Rare|
|Vintage Masters (VMA)||Mythic Rare|
|Conspiracy (CNS)||Mythic Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Dack Fayden Discussion
3 weeks ago
Hey! Love the deck idea.
Some cards I'd recommend:
Elixir of Immortality for saving your graveyard.
Mystic Retrieval to pull from your graveyard.
Anger is a great card to have in your graveyard.
Desperate Ravings could be fun.
4 weeks ago
I know you have a ton of decks, but arcane signet and commanders sphere likely belong in every deck.
36 lands/4 mana rocks seems too high. General rule for me is 35 lands - 1 for every 2-3 mana rocks. This deck also has a low cmc and generates treasures so it seems like you are ~3 lands too high. I would start cutting the 5 color lands and if you bump your cmc up at all, consider adding signets for minimal ramp at the cost of a lands at a 1/3 ratio.
Castle Locthwain - low oppurtunity cost for high value. your deck is half black and this can get you back into a game where you run low on resources
Yawgmoth is a heavy combo card, I dont see a combo for him, he would likely be better in anafenza where you can combo with persist creatures and bolster and all that. the proliferate is powerful, but checkout the options under infect.
Brazen Freebooter Captain Lannery Storm Corsair Captain Dire Fleet Hoarder Pitiless Plunderer Prosperous Pirates Rapacious Dragon Sailor of Means - you already have enough draft chaff in the random infect creatures, revel in riches win is accomplished with a single board clear, or ~2 turns of attacking, they are not required for revel in riches.
If you wanna go revel in riches
Phyrexian Tower - sac outlet and fast mana. see also Westvale Abbey Flip
Exava, Rakdos Blood Witch/Anger - lets you attack after a board clear
Mikaeus, the Unhallowed - this may be in another deck for flavor reasons, but basically makes all non humans immortal
Last One Standing - This basically a better damnation in rackdos. This should replace bontus last reckoning or just be an
additional board clear if you wanna go reanimator with mikaeus, hell even Nevinyrral's Disk is better than bontus
Phyrexian Scriptures ^ all those reasons, mild shoutout to Chain Reaction Blasphemous Act Spell Swindle/Storm the Vault Flip/Brass's Bounty any of these will replace all of the draft chaff and free up some card slots
Curse of Opulence - ramps and duh
Hellkite Tyrant - likely in another deck, but consider it
If you wanna go infect
Karn's Bastion - proliferate the counters and infect counters
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth + Filth - another way to get unblockable. Wonder/Levitation also make blocking hard
Tainted Strike - the best thing about this card, is the fact you can cast it on your opponents creatures. This also combos well with reach creatures like Judith, the Scourge Diva/Syr Konrad, the Grim allowing you to kill your opponents w/o attacking. Does not apply to Blood Artist because life lose does not deal infect damage.
Move Drana, Liberator of Malakir to the mainboard, shes too synergistic to leave behind
Warstorm Surge - deal infect damage without attacking Stalking Vengeance is a worse version
Sword of Truth and Justice - prolly the best sword for this deck.
Bident of Thassa//Coastal Piracy - unblockable means free cards
Open Into Wonder/Mogis's Marauder - moar unblockable
Guildmages' Forum - synergy land
planeswalkers go up a ton with proliferate, Chandra, Flamecaller is a board clear, filter and damage engine. you will pretty much be able to ult Dack Fayden the turn you cast him. Liliana, Dreadhorde General looks amazing in this deck. ulting Lukka, Coppercoat Outcast for the win? just lul
Geode Golem - consider him if you think you need marchesa for the deck to work
Cyclonic Rift - likely in another deck, but another way to go unblockable River's Rebuke/Profaner of the Dead budget options
the vivid lands work with proliferate
Vigean Graftmage - may be better in your twiddle deck, but you can do a number of infinite combos with this card if you wanna go that direction. not very recommended with your current build
1 month ago
RambIe "Win more", when I used it at least (not speaking for anyone else that uses it) means to me the types of cards like Overrun after you already had lethal on field. They are cards that don't need to be run, because when they are good you are already winning.
"Lose less" is another term meant to describe cards like Fog in a situation where it saves you a turn, but you do nothing with that turn and die the next turn. It stalls defeat, but doesn't change the situation.
A card that is great, but only when you are winning, or can stall, but only when you are losing are not good cards, and because it's hard to block creatures from 3 opponents, walkers have a disadvantage in EDH, making the thought that Oko protects itself from opposing creatures (one of the hallmarks of the card in formats like Standard and Modern, and even currently running through legacy) almost faulty, and while it being at 5 loyalty helps, often because it doesn't give direct card advantage, many deck will just beat it.
That's not saying I don't run and love the card, but I'd still pick Drake over Oko if I had to pick! I don't run Karn, Ashiok, or Narset often either. Oko is probably the toughest of them all, but my metagame is a lot of decks with Oakhame Adversary, Tymna the Weaver, partner decks, etc. that can deal with all sorts of walkers.
Yuriko is never really a big deal, as it's such an easy deck to whiff and die to itself. Our metagame is really just Kenriths, partner decks, Najeela (soo much najeela that just easy kills a walker), etc. that mean that slower Oko style plays are the more untenable variants.
Still, even on MTGO, while I would run both I'd still rather Drake, it's just a cleaner card overall, and more efficient, and easier to tutor, etc.
BTW: I compare him more to Dack Fayden, Teferi, Time Raveler, and Grasp of Fate than to Gilded Drake. A 3 mana, sorcery speed, interaction piece that either hits multiple cards, or has additional value makes more sense to me to compare. Dack Fayden used to be everywhere, and slowly ran out of the metagame (still is in Kess, Dissident Mage, but the -2 is less used) and it just less useful given the metagame's more creature-based evolution.
1 month ago
2 months ago
This is a lot of fun!
Couple ideas to consider: Geier Reach Sanitarium is a good enabler for madness cards, especially when it's not your turn. Glint-Horn Buccaneer is good synergy for any discard strategy for incremental damage. The Royal Scions provide some good redundancy to Dack Fayden but possibly with a more relevant ultimate (if you get there) since you have fewer effects that can target your opponent's things. Increasing Vengeance even if you end up just discarding to a loot effect is still a pretty good card to have sitting in your graveyard.
SynergyBuild on enpc
2 months ago
Sadly, you need to get to 6 power for Sisay, since Sisay, Weatherlight Captain says 'costs less than' rather than 'equal to or less than.'
No worries, the use of Jegantha as a companion is it lets you get Sisay to 4 power on it's own, which allows the whole combo to occur with no extra pieces. Yes 11 mana is a ton, but 3-3-5 isn't too bad, when it's a 5 color, 0 card combo, you can work with anything in deck. Radha while not bad for the deck, will often be worse than other ramp pieces like Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy, or just normal ramp.
The actual legends in more competitive Sisay lists (according to lists I've seen) are Lavinia, Azorius Renegade, Anafenza, the Foremost, Gaddock Teeg, Tymna the Weaver, Thrasios, Triton Hero, Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy, Teferi, Time Raveler, Oko, Thief of Crowns, Kethis, the Hidden Hand, Dack Fayden, Aminatou, the Fateshifter, The Chain Veil, Umezawa's Jitte, Derevi, Empyrial Tactician/Najeela, the Blade-Blossom (and Samut, Voice of Dissent optionally for this combo).
Optionally (on EDHREC) Helm of the Host, Hammer of Nazahn, Reki, the History of Kamigawa, Alesha, Who Smiles at Death, Domri, Anarch of Bolas, Teferi, Hero of Dominaria, Shalai, Voice of Plenty, Kambal, Consul of Allocation, Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain, Saffi Eriksdotter, Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons, Yisan, the Wanderer Bard, Captain Sisay, Brago, King Eternal, Kunoros, Hound of Athreos, Ashiok, Dream Render/Narset, Parter of Veils/Teferi, Master of Time/Linvala, Keeper of Silence (non-Jegantha variations)
Sadly, while Radha seems okay? Tutoring it is really bad, since you could fetch value pieces like Wrenn and Six, or better ramp like Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy, and I doubt you need an extra green if you can cast Sisay and activate her, and she also already needs to have a 1 color legend out. If you are looking to use Radha for pumping Sisay, run more of the optional legends. Idk, I could be wrong but I don't see it being popular, I hope you have the best of luck with it, it seems pretty fun for the deck on terms of a flavor include!
2 months ago
Daretti, Ingenious Iconoclast is a repeat value engine that has the benefit of being able to protect itself and can deal with problematic permanents on the board.
+1: Plop a 1/1 construct with defender onto the field. This ability works well by itself, as it guarantees bodies to block for Daretti. We have a number of ways to utilize the 1/1 tokens too. We can use them alongside Smokestack to pay for the sacrifices. We can use it with Rankle, Master of Pranks to pay for the sacrifices as well. The +1 also means you are getting extra mileage from Skullclamp and draw a lot of cards. It also has strong synergy with Goblin Welder, so you can keep recurring your lock pieces. The tokens will also protect you from sac effects like Diabolic Edict or Smallpox or anything that forces you to sacrifice permanents.
-1: Sac an artifact to destroy a creature/artifact. This is the biggest reason to play Daretti. Repeatable removal of the two most common non-land permanent types is extremely helpful when your goal is to control the board. You can use the 1/1 constructs from the +1 to pay the cost, or you can use one of the two artifact critters in the deck. The sacrifice shouldn't be under rated, as you can reset Phyrexian Revoker to another permanent when your attack with Alesha, or you can jam spells when Ethersworn Canonist leaves before bringing her back with Alesha. This also allows you to remove your own artifact stax pieces if you wish to combo off or need to cast multiple spells in a turn. You can even choose to use this ability the first turn you play Daretti due to the large number of artifact rocks and stax pieces in the deck. This ability is the strongest reason to run Daretti in a stax package, you can move from strong board position to locking out the board if Daretti is left unchecked for a couple turns.
-6: Make three copies of target artifact in play/graveyard. You won't usually use this in an average game, but this can be back breaking in games that go long. We have some juicy targets in our own deck, with Sphere of Resistance (extra per spell), Thorn of Amethyst (extra for non-creature spells), Memory Jar (21 temporary cards drawn and go to your GY), Smokestack (after one or two rotations of 4x smokestack, the game is 100% over), Phyrexian Revoker (hose out most likely every active ability on the table), or even just a mana rock to get ahead. Choosing from an opponent's artifacts is also very nice in a 4 player game, because you can usually find something nice. Copying anyone's "Sword of X and Y" 3 times can be a game winning move, but honestly most equipment is a great choice to copy. I used to run Cranial Plating in this deck specifically for the 3x copies, which allow Alesha to get commander damage kills. Just note that copying legendary artifacts isn't wise, so trying to 3x someone's Umezawa's Jitte is a no-go. In more casual/high powered games, you'll sometimes be able to 3x copy a Wurmcoil Engine or Myr Battlesphere or similar big artifact doinks, which let you get kills on stalled out boards.
The last thing about Daretti that makes him worthwhile in my mind is the CMC. 3 CMC means he can come back from Sun Titan, which is pretty massive. Being a tiny constantly chugging threat engine for 3 mana also means he demands answers, or begins to punish games when he survives. I can recommend him in stax shells, where games are intended to go longer and you get more uses from him. In fast combo decks or midrange decks, someone like Dack Fayden will perform better due to draw filtering, and directly stealing an artifact as opposed to 1:1 trading artifacts like Daretti does. If you're interested in running this guy, consider him mostly for the +1 and the -1. The ult is a very nice cherry on top, but from personal experience I'm getting that ult about 1 of every 3 games he hits the table (in cEDH).
3 months ago
- Liliana's +1 causes me to also discard. I don't particularly like this, as my deck is not designed for graveyard synergy. Setting myself back seems like a rather foolish endeavor.
- Liliana's -2 does not allow me control over the creature being sacrificed. While it is true that Nicol Bolas, Dragon-God can serve to act as a second attack against a boardstate, I lack the control over which threat is removed in general.
- Liliana's -6 is extremely powerful and is an impressive impact when using Nicol Bolas, Dragon-God, however I also run a gambit of wraths in the deck, making this ultimate rather weak.
- Tezzeret, Master of the Bridge gives all of my Planeswalker spells (And the few creatures I have in here) Affinity, meaning they each cost less for each artifact I control. This will help reduce my Commander tax, as Nicol Bolas, Dragon-God always seems to be a prime target for removal or attacking.
- Mycosynth Lattice and Tezzeret, Master of the Bridge have synergy in this regards, which gives me another reason to keep it in the deck. I currently run it for Karn, the Great Creator's ability to lock all functions out of the game, Saheeli, the Gifted now reduces all costs by an absurd amount and finally Dack Fayden allows me to take control of literally anything I want.
- Tezzeret's +2 not only is a higher loyalty ability that Nicol Bolas, Dragon-God can use to move up higher, it also deals damage to EACH opponent equal to the number of artifacts I control. Again, Mycosynth Lattice basically makes this a wincon, and even without it there are so many artifacts in this deck that this is a massive blow to each opponent. In the most ideal situation possible, Rings of Brighthearth, The Chain Veil, Nicol Bolas, Dragon-God and Tezzeret, Master of the Bridge can deal tremendous damage all in a single turn.
- In the case that something such as Rings of Brighthearth or The Chain Veil are removed, I can get them back using Tezzeret's -3. Not to mention I gain life, as well.
- There honestly isn't much use for Tezzeret's -8 ability and so it will probably never see use.
Because of the synergy, higher loyalty, cost reductions, wide-spread damage and life gain and recursion I see legitimately no reason to not run him.