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Untap all permanents you control during each other player's untap step.
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Seedborn Muse Discussion
6 days ago
I think Avenger of Zendikar, Terastodon, Seedborn Muse, Quirion Ranger, and Phyrexian Revoker would all be solid creatures to consider. Maybe consider stax pieces like Winter Orb or Tangle Wire since you could use the dorks for mana and yisan to cheat out creatures.
1 week ago
If you ran Deepglow Skate, you could add more planeswalkers to the deck to allow them to activate the ults immediately. Alchemist's Refuge and Leyline of Anticipation giving you flash is good to use Ramos on other player's turns, plus they go well with Seedborn Muse if you have it. Flameshadow Conjuring, Deadeye Navigator, Eerie Interlude, Faith's Reward, Progenitor Mimic, Stolen Identity, Rite of Replication, and Clone Legion allow you to abuse more ETB effects. Craterhoof Behemoth, Venser, Shaper Savant, Gonti, Lord of Luxury, Zealous Conscripts, Acidic Slime, Chancellor of the Forge, Chancellor of the Spires, Sepulchral Primordial, Luminate Primordial, Duplicant, Dragonlord Silumgar, Sower of Temptation, Hornet Queen, Deranged Hermit, Myr Battlesphere, Angel of Invention, Cultivator of Blades, have great ETB effects to be abused. Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and Cytoplast Manipulator work really well with the Marchesa, the Black Rose you're running. Necropolis Regent, Master Biomancer, Reyhan, Last of the Abzan, Death's Presence, Experiment Kraj, and Verdurous Gearhulk are great for building up creatures with lots of +1/+1 counters. Greater Good, Prime Speaker Zegana, and Tishana, Voice of Thunder are great card draw sources for this deck. If you reanimate creatures from the graveyard often enough, Flayer of the Hatebound is strong in that department, and if you're looking for more big damage/lifeloss effects, Warstorm Surge, Stalking Vengeance, Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord, and Pathbreaker Ibex are good as wel. Conflux is really strong with Ramos in play, especially with Sakashima the Impostor copying him. If don't mind it being janky, you can copy your Panharmonicon by turning it into a creature with Karn, Silver Golem or March of the Machines. Take it a step further by adding Opalescence so your enchantments can be copied too. Ultimately, this is just supposed to be a big list of cards to draw inspiration from, not to all be added to the deck.
1 week ago
2 weeks ago
Teufell, going all in on control, and allowing non-slivers into the deck? Gotcha. In that case, since Prophet of Kruphix is banned, why not go with Seedborn Muse? Or if you're on a budget, try Murkfiend Liege. I'd also consider Cryptolith Rite, as it'll provide you much needed ramp, and compliments the other two mana ramp slivers already in the deck.
2 weeks ago
I have a Omnath-deck aswell, and this looks great, I'll save this for some inspiration when it's time to make my second Omnath deck (there are too many great cards for a deck like this that I am actually considering building two).I think you should SERIOUSLY consider putting Patron of the Orochi in your deck, I LOVE that card. Everytime I play it I have this really smug smile on my face 'cause it can be so disgusting if it isn't removed very quickly. It's basically a Seedborn Muse but cheaper (sure, not as good, but good enough). Observe that Patron of the Orochi untaps itself, therefore you can use it on each turn.I also love Sakiko, Mother of Summer, but I don't know if it'll fit in your deck, depending on how much mana you want.
3 weeks ago
Looks awesome! You could add in Seedborn Muse depending on your budget, that way you're always ready to block, or at the end of each turn you can tap to store more mana.
+1 from me!
3 weeks ago
Looks like a pretty sweet deck. One thing I'd recommend is to cut some of the 'ETBs tapped' for opponents stuff. Consistency is cool and all, but Loxodon Gatekeeper, Root Maze, Manglehorn, Thalia, Heretic Cathar, and Frozen AEther seems a little excessive. I'm a fan of enchantments, since they're a little harder to remove than creatures. You might want to drop the Loxodon Gatekeeper or Thalia, Heretic Cathar for a Blind Obedience.
Looks like you're also going for locking down the untap step. Have you considered Stasis at all? It has proved to be pretty solid in my deck, so long as I can consistently deal combat damage to have untapped. Also, Mind Over Matter is waaaaay better than the Azorius Guildmage. Pricey, but worth it in my experience. And since you're locking that stuff down, you might want to put some thought into adding a Murkfiend Liege to backup your Seedborn Muse, should it be removed. I could also see the newly printed Mirri, Weatherlight Duelist performing well in your deck.
I think your card draw might also need some work. The last thing you want is to be dead in the water and top decking for answers. Rhystic Study and Bident of Thassa are good, but what makes this deck scary is when your hand is huge--that's what makes your opponents think twice about their plays. I'd recommend a Pull from Tomorrow, Coastal Piracy, Consecrated Sphinx, or at least an Arcanis the Omnipotent to be abused with Derevi, Empyrial Tactician's ability. Add in a Laboratory Maniac and a Mind Over Matter and you have yourself a card draw combo stew.
There's no better way to stop a combo than to simply counter it. I'd consider including a few more counterspells like the OG Counterspell. Disallow is also a solid show-stopper when an opponent thinks they're being clever. Also good for stopping combo engines are Stony Silence, and Null Rod.
It looks like you're relying on a bunch of ETB effects with only Brago, King Eternal and a few reanimators like Eternal Witness and Sun Titan. If you're bent on ETBs, I'd recommend Venser, the Sojourner, and perhaps Conjurer's Closet and of course, the eternally useful Deadeye Navigator, which is good at getting you a lot of mana with either Palinchron or Peregrine Drake (economic option).
Since you're also making things more expensive, have you considered adding in Aura of Silence? Quite good for shutting up opponents. Trinisphere is also effective at making things too costly for the opponents. Lastly, as for dealing with CMC and such, a Void Winnower is pretty good at locking down a great deal of spells. Having a board state with Gaddock Teeg, Trinisphere, Void Winnower, Vryn Wingmare, and Grand Arbiter Augustin IV will give your opponents such a nightmare headache as they try to navigate the actual cost of of a spell.
So it looks like you have a few things that make tokens, but not much else for them. I'd recommend to either go all-in and add in a few more token-makers like Squirrel Nest, Elspeth, Sun's Champion, or Avenger of Zendikar. If you're going that route, I'd suggest Doubling Season, Parallel Lives, or Anointed Procession.
Overall it seems like a really solid deck. Might still need a bit of tweaking, but I like what it's got going on! Also, please don't think I'm trying to tell you how to build your deck, these are only suggestions and ideas to consider! Thanks for sharing!
3 weeks ago
Hey, I keep coming back to this deck because it's really well thought out. I've been picking up cards from your list to upgrade my similar deck which used to just have as many random infinite mana combos as I could find.
Some questions. If you don't have a timetwister (like me) would you also not need Noxious Revival?
Have you tried Ad Nauseam? Perhaps taking out Rhystic Study, or Seedborn Muse if you want to keep cmc same. Ad nauseam with any reasonable amount of life almost guarantees a win where these others maybe help out long term.