Survival of the Fittest

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Format Legality
Noble Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
MTGO Legal
Vanguard Legal
Leviathan Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Tempest Remastered (TPR) Mythic Rare
Vintage Masters (VMA) Rare
Exodus (EXO) Rare
Promo Set (000) Rare

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Survival of the Fittest

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, Discard a creature card: Search your library for a creature card, reveal that card, and put it into your hand. Then shuffle your library.

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Survival of the Fittest Discussion

Spirits on Arahbo, Xenagos... for Cats EDH

22 hours ago

Hi SynergyBuild,

Thanks for the suggestions, will take me a bit to go through it. Here's some additional followup questions.

Survival of the Fittest makes sense to me CMC3 to tutor a creature (if I have a creature).

Because I don't have haste, Fauna Shaman is less effective, but perhaps still required (just to get more consistency).

Instead of creatures, like Avacyn's Pilgrim because I don't have haste, I tried to go more low-cost spell based mana ramp. As well as having no real way to Counterspell mass removal, they are susceptible. Here is some examples:

Three Visits - playing a Savannah = Net ramp cost

Nature's Lore - playing a Savannah = Net ramp cost

Green Sun's Zenith - playing a Dryad Arbor = Net ramp cost . Also a modular tutor if I don't need the ramp.

Nissa, Vastwood Seer  Flip - in hand Forest (or if no other land drop that turn) = Net ramp cost or best case (Special note: I was testing to see if the slowness/poorness of the ramp, was offset her +1 Draw/Ramp once flipped. So far I haven't had her flip, so she hasn't worked yet.

Plus the standard: Chrome Mox, Mana Crypt, Sol Ring.

Is this strategy better than the 1/1 Elf route? To make Arahbo, Roar of the World work, I'll also need a concentration of 2/2 Cat otherwise better to choose an 1/1 Elf Commander?

I think the overall I get is, I don't have enough ramp? I'm thinking these would be good?

Tithe, Birds of Paradise, Harrow, Crop Rotation + Gaea's Cradle (I don't have this card yet though :/), Mox Diamond, Ancient Tomb.

What about less exciting options like: Cultivate or Kodama's Reach? Growing Rites of Itlimoc  Flip? Mirari's Wake?

Or is it better to go 1/1 Elf, to get the Priest of Titania + Staff of Domination route? Will I be able to get enough 1/1 Elf into the deck without losing the 2/2 Cat Commander? My spouse will not play 1/1 Elf.

I should put Sterling Grove in to Tutor Sylvan Library, right?

I use/tutor Alms Collector all the time, Spirit of the Labyrinth worries me because it shuts down my draw Sylvan Library, Puresteel Paladin, Sword of Fire and Ice, Skullclamp, Hunter's Insight, etc. But I understand that Selsnya () isn't the same draw level as other commanders, so perhaps, slowing everyone including myself down would be ok.

Archangel of Thune and Spike Feeder can win the game on the same turn, even if both do not have haste. Remember that Archangel of Thune gives a +1 to each creature (not just the Spike Feeder), so any creature becomes "Weaponized", and with the Trample/Evasion built in, can usually strike 1 or more players. Also, usually I Chord of Calling in the Archangel of Thune to try and protect her and allow her to avoid summoning sickness, and attack on my turn. Yes, I can win next turn with a Felidar Sovereign or Chord of Calling > Felidar Sovereign. Once she resolves unless they can stop Activated or Triggered abilities, I get the Infinite Life.

I'll do a more indepth review later. I'll also share some of your $50 suggestions on KimJongman deck later as well.

Cheers!

Profet93 on Azusa gets there

1 day ago

Since you're playing Azusa, you're gonna want more lands to play your threats more quickly. I would go up to at least 44 as a starting point and then add up to (usually no more than) 50 lands.

My first comment doesn't work with spoilers so here it is.

Cuts and Additions

I see you have an eldrazi theme. That being sad, you should only add the important eldrazi to free up slots that will help you achieve your goal.

Desolation Twin - Two big dudes with no trample or ETB

Eldrazi Devastator - Big dude with trample for 8 is not worth it

Endless One, Feral Hydra, Undergrowth Champion Verdant Force - More big dudes with no real impact, verdant force tokens are not abused in your build

Sakura-Tribe Elder - Replace with land

Solemn Simulacrum - Replace with land. Sad robot is used in decks with no ramp or card draw like boros. You're green so this isn't necessary

Vorapede - Medium sized dude that comes back, no central to your game plan

While I personally don't like Nature's Spiral, you might as well replace it with Recollect. It costs 1 more but can get you back cards like G-Wave or Tooth and Nail. Huge difference for 1 mana, worth it.

Renegade Map - Replace with land 100%

Beastmaster Ascension - Best in a token build, not your deck

Curse of Predation, Forced Adaptation and Retreat to Kazandu - No benefit to your strategy. Yes the last is landfall, but its not significant landfall.

Song of Freyalise - No idea why this is here, you're not a token build

Blinding Fog < Heroic Intervention

Warriors' Lesson - Weak

Plummet - Limited removal (meta dependent)

Additions

Kozilek, Butcher of Truth - Card draw, threat, HIGHLY recommend.

Kozilek, the Great Distortion - Super card draw. You will need colorless mana for him. Given that you're mono green, I would replace some basic forests with some non basic lands for both utility AND so you can run him. Azusa decks NEED card draw and he is one of the best

Conduit of Ruin - Helps you find threats, cost reducer

Bane of Progress - Should at least consider it. It may not work in your build necessarily, but it can absolutely destroy board states. Terastodon could also work without hurting you.

Emrakul, the Promised End - Big dude, cost reduced, cast trigger/mind control and protection with evasion. HIGHLY recommend.

Fierce Empath - Finds threats or either kozileks for card draw

Multani, Yavimaya's Avatar - Read it, run it. Love it. works well with fetches.

Nissa, Vastwood Seer  Flip - Helps you get lands, turns into an engine afterwards. Dont have to run it but it might help.

Courser of Kruphix and Oracle of Mul Daya - If you listen to anything I said, run these 2. Fixes draws, ramps and even some lifegain.

Ramunap Excavator - You should run some fetches (cheap ones or expensive ones) to help ensure and fuel land drops, thin out deck and provide recursion for utilty lands.

Tireless Tracker - Provides card draw, gets big, works well with fetches (I mentioned fetches many times, they are probably important. RUN THEM!)

Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger - Removal wincon. Green doesn't have much permanent removal so ulamog helps.

Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre - See above

Woodland Bellower - Utility in finding whatever you need. Ramunap Excavator for recursion, e-wit for general recursion, courser of kruphix for ramp, reclamation sage (if you chose to add it) for artifact/enchantment removal, fierce emmpath to find eldrazi bombs, etc.... Depends on if you have enough targets (note: NON-legendary)

World Breaker - Works with your eldrazi idea, can recur itself, removal all in 1.

Yavimaya Elder - Dont need to run it but it helps with card draw and ramp, up to you.

Greater Good - Remember, card draw is azusa's biggest issue. This card basically makes it no issue. Also is a nice sac outlet against exile and steal effects. RUN THIS!!

Song of the Dryads - You need permanent removal in green, this is great to use on their commander (particularly on red or black generals who have difficulty removing enchantments). Also see Beast Within if you prefer instant speed interaction and actually destroying something. Up to you, but I like song of dryads more (it also a permanent to go with g-wave)

Survival of the Fittest - Creature tutors are HUGE. Helps you find bombs or key utility (see ramanup excavtor). Lastly, protects against graveyard exile effects by tossing a create, getting an eldrazi like Kozilek or Ulamog that shuffles your grave back in.

Sylvan Library - Like sensei's but you can pay the life to draw more cards. I can't tell you how many times this has helped me. TOP DECK MANIPULATION with FETCHES = GOOD TIMES/SMOOTHER DRAWS!!! RUN THIS!

Garruk, Primal Hunter - Card draw, can make tokens and ult is relevant. Although I just minus him right away (can use Soul's Magesty instead, but it isnt a permanent for g-wave).

Rishkar's Expertise - Card draw AND casts a 5 cmc or less spell for free. Run it either instead of or in addition to the above (usually in addition to).

Nissa, Vital Force - +1 is ok, -3 is relevant, and just read the ult. Protect it for one turn and you'e golden

Boundless Realms - The ramp is strong with this one

Rude Awakening > Sylvan Awakening. Yes they arent indestructible, but it's utility in becoming a wincon late game or ramp mid game is great. Also works well with mana doublers like Zendikar resurgent or Mana reflection.

Horn of Greed - BEST CARD IN YOUR DECK. You will get WAY more value than your opponents.

Crucible of Worlds - To work with fetches!! ADD THIS (and the ramanup excavtor)

Thaumatic Compass - Helps ensure land drops, turns into a better maze of ith. Should consider but not necessary

Momentous Fall - Very useful but not necessary. Helps prevent exile/steal effects. Can also use in response to removal (creature dies anyways but you get insane benefit).

Utility Lands

Here are some fetches, these are your primary ones to acquire

Blighted Woodland

Evolving Wilds

Misty Rainforest

Myriad Landscape

Terramorphic Expanse

Verdant Catacombs

Windswept Heath

Wooded Foothills

Terminal Moraine - Nice but not neccesary if you run above

Warped Landscape - Same as above

Utility Lands

Cavern of Souls - Anti blue (meta dependent)

Crystal Vein/Ancient Tomb - Enables turn 2 Azusa, vein is replayable ramp with crucible/excavtor

Eldrazi Temple - Fuel eldrazi

Eye of Ugin - Tutors AND fuels eldrazi. SUPER Important card. ADD THIS! Helps you find the eldrazi you need for card draw, removal and to win.

Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx - Ramp

Reliquary Tower - No max hand size

Sanctum of Ugin - Find other eldrazi

Thawing Glaciers - Ensures land drops! ADD THIS! I underestimated it at first too but it's pulled some weight

Yavimaya Hollow - Regen

You can add land destruction like strip mine if you want but idk how your playgroup is. There are other utility lands too but I feel like this is enough for now

When/if you accept/like some of these ideas, I would like to present you with cards for finding the important utility lands (like eye, which in turn can find your creatures needed to win, ensures consistency!)

If you have any questions, want more feedback or cuts, let me know!

Profet93 on Azusa gets there

1 day ago

Since you're playing Azusa, you're gonna want more lands to play your threats more quickly. I would go up to at least 44 as a starting point and then add up to (usually no more than) 50 lands.

Cuts/Some Replacements Show

Additions Show

Utility Lands Show

When/if you accept/like some of these ideas, I would like to present you with cards for finding the important utility lands (like eye, which in turn can find your creatures needed to win, ensures consistency!)

If you have any questions, want more feedback or cuts, let me know!

SynergyBuild on Arahbo, Xenagos... for Cats EDH

1 day ago

Oh, I take back what I said, forget it, sorry about me white-knighting the competitive tag in the past (not far past, but still) and I love the list!

If you really want to make it competitive, I can't promise I can make Arahbo tier 1, but tier 2-3 I can do, as long as you are willing to drop some of the more fun cats, and are able to build up this deck to become a stax-beatdown hybrid.

Okay, so to start, consistency is key, more tutors should be the goal, think Fauna Shaman and Survival of the Fittest type cards, and you'd really want to slow the deck down, which is the opposite of what most people will say.

Running Vryn Wingmare, Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, Glowrider, and Thorn of Amethyst can stop many combo decks in their tracks, and shut off storm decks in general, while not slowing you down nearly as much. Avacyn's Pilgrim, Birds of Paradise, Llanowar Elves, Arbor Elf, Elvish Mystic, Fyndhorn Elves, and Boreal Druid are all fast mana ramp that gets you to dropping your commander + Lost Leonin combo (what I believe to be the simplest wincon) faster and also gets unaffected by non-creature hate.

Many decks cannot win through Spirit of the Labyrinth or Alms Collector type cards, running them allows you to obliterate some opponents from combo to control.

Effectively I am arguing for stax, but not just stax, also combo, running the combo you already have is fine, Archangel of Thune and Spike Feeder, however it doesn't win the game until your next turn unless you already have a large amount of mana, or an Aetherflux Reservoir type effect.

Consider Priest of Titania/Elvish Archdruid/Wirewood Channeler + Umbral Mantle/Sword of the Paruns/Staff of Domination as a powerful combo with cards that are individually useful. Emptying all of that infinite mana into a Genesis Wave or Walking Ballista can easily win games.


Okay, for the 50 bucks thing, Armageddon, Ramunap Excavator, Glowrider, Vryn Wingmare, Aven Mindcensor, Norn's Annex, Ghostly Prison, Spirit of the Labyrinth, Birds of Paradise, Llanowar Elves, Fyndhorn Elves, Arbor Elf, Elvish Mystic, Yisan, the Wanderer Bard, Boreal Druid, Avacyn's Pilgrim, Nature's Claim, Dryad Militant, Rest in Peace, Path to Exile, Suppression Field, Aura of Silence, Beast Within, Manglehorn, Mother of Runes, and Return to Dust add up to $49.95 on TCGplayer not including tax or shipping costs, and make up a core stax build, with other reasonably cheap cards that could help being Root Maze, Natural State.

SynergyBuild on Ancestral Animar

2 days ago

Daedronus,

This is a very land-light deck and Burgeoning will mostly only drop one or two lands maximum for a card. It also doesn't put counters on Animar, can't be tutored for, and is a bad draw at any time except turn one to drop a turn two Animar. Carpet of Flowers more consistently ramps this deck into a turn two Animar and still doesn't deserve a spot because just getting a turn two animar by spending a mana isn't enough, it normally has to either be free like Lotus Petal, Chrome Mox or the similar effects or be a creature like Birds of Paradise.

Venser, Shaper Savant is not useful in the same way Man-o'-War is, being that both can bounce themselves, but Man o' War can do it for half the mana, putting twice the +1/+1 counters that Venser will on Animar. This is a huge difference when you need a number of counters to cast a game-winning spell by turn 4 or trying to win right there.



helldanno due to Animar, Soul of Elements having protection from white & black, that means I assume you are running into blue/green/red removal.

Against Red Removal, Blasphemous Act type effects are unaffected by Lightning Greaves/Swiftfoot Boots, so I assume this isn't your problem. Against Lightning Bolt effects stuff like Spellskite, Sylvan Safekeeper, Glen Elendra Archmage, Force of Will, Pact of Negation, and Mental Misstep can counter as well as just putting a few counters on Animar, Soul of Elements. Against Chaos Warp, we still have Spellskite, Sylvan Safekeeper, Glen Elendra Archmage, Force of Will, and Pact of Negation, though you could run some cards like Swan Song and Dispel can be flex slots. They also happen to slow your opponents down if they try to combo out.

Against Blue Removal, which I assume is your problem, Chain of Vapor, Into the Roil, Rapid Hybridization and Cyclonic Rift can still be blocked with Spellskite, Sylvan Safekeeper, Glen Elendra Archmage, Force of Will, and Pact of Negation, but also can be blocked by some of the flex slots I talked about prior.

Green removal is pretty much just Beast Within and Song of the Dryads and is generally rare, but if it is really hurting your, Spellskite, Sylvan Safekeeper, Glen Elendra Archmage, Force of Will, and Pact of Negation can stop them all, and Caustic Caterpillar, Brutalizer Exarch, Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger can deal with Song of the Dryads type effects.

The point is, I don't see your reason for Swiftfoot Boots or Lightning Greaves, they are two mana non-creature permanents that protect things at sorcery speed, unlike the rest of the answers.


Now while I respect your opinion in your meta on the use and capability of Emrakul, the Promised End, in this deck it commonly reduces it's cost by 1-3 mana, and can be reduced by 4-7 on a mid-sized Animar, Soul of Elements like you said, so 5-10 mana on normal by turns 5-6, or mid game. Even saying it costs is pushing it and if that is the case, you should run it if your meta is overrun with decks that are ruined by it. However due to the top tiered decks normally running a high number of instants that can be used to disable their own ability, think Chain of Vapor, they could commonly stop you from ruining themselves too bad in response to the ability before their turn. Rarely can it do more than a Word of Command because of stuff like that. Even if it just killed target player, like you said about swinging in with a swoll Animar, it doesn't win you the game to kill one player.

Again, that is only the reason that it isn't good enough for JMCraig to toss it in with the goal of this for cEDH decks, but if it works in your playgroup, do it! I have only the best wishes for you and your Animar deck!


You want a backup-backup plan I think was that second-to-last line? I don't understand why you think that is nessecary, but I will go over the plan:

Main Plan : Animar + Statue + Outlet = Win

Backup Plan : Kiki-jiki + Untapper = Win

We have a backup plan, why do you assume we need another?


You seemed to argue for Tishana over Big Kozi, but Kozilek, Butcher of Truth does have other use in the deck, and I would argue is better with a pumped Animar than Tishana. It can be free if you need a wincon and have Ancestral Statued Animar, Soul of Elements to infinity and beyond and just need to win, but don't have much more mana, Kozi is free, also with Survival of the Fittest you can fetch him and discard him to reshuffle your yard back in if you couldn't otherwise get back a card. Due to the discard being the cost, you could then fetch out a card that was in your graveyard when you fetched, making a really cool Primal Command effect for and a Survival of the Fittest.

Arguing Tishana can be fetched with Fierce Empath is fair, no arguement here, and it is even a decent option, but Imperial Recruiter has a ton of much better options, like Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker to copy the recruiter fetching Deceiver Exarch and winning the game. I can't think of a game I have ever played with Animar in which I wished I had a tishana to fetch with Imperial Recruiter. But yes, it isn't technically wrong.


The last thing I want to cover was one of your first points, about the lack of outlets to win with Ancestral Statue, with Purphoros, God of the Forge and Walking Ballista being the outlets of choice, if you have found problems tutoring tehm out, try also running Reckless Fireweaver. It doesn't combo with Man-o'-War or Shrieking Drake, but is still very useful.

SynergyBuild on Najeela, a Hulk, and a Bomber...

1 week ago

+1! Love the decklist! Bomberman is a sweet wincon!

I think Survival of the Fittest would be a great inclusion in the list! Fetches Auriok Salvagers and Trinket Mage, you could also toss in Apprentice Necromancer so you can fetch Protean Hulk, the discard it to fetch the Necromancer, so you bring it back and immediately sacrifice it, allowing you to win the game!

Kiyomei on 京 An illusion? What are you hiding? (CEDH-STAX) 京

1 week ago

Dankey, Don't worry about it, I try and answer all questions as best as I can :)!

First and foremost What this deck tries to do is enforce soft locks to hinder early strategies and make sure we don't lose in the first few turns. This makes it so we can set up for a midgame hard lock or prevent people from doing what they wanted to do (for example tutor a Aven Mindcensor vs an opponents Yisan, the Wanderer Bard or search for Kataki, War's Wage against artifact decks around turn 1 - 2 - 3 - 4), We do this because our late game is comparably poor to other decks out there and we don't recover too well generally if we don't have a good time early on...

This doesn't mean we don't have outs in the late game! Because my meta is filled with mana dorks and combo's that use creatures with low toughness for which I prefer to use Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite! if this does not apply to you and people play a lot of control, for example, you could switch Elesh for Iona!

(You can still do the same trick with either Fauna Shaman or Survival of the Fittest and pitch Iona to find Loyal Retainers and put her live really early on! Although I think it is a harder to cast card even with the ramp we run because of the triple white)

monkeryz on The Mimeoplasm [cEDH]

2 weeks ago

nlabelle Well Necrotic Ooze when copied by The Mimeoplasm or on the battlefield says:

"it has all activated abilities of all creature cards in all graveyards."

So the key cards we're aiming to have the abilities of are Phyrexian Devourer and Walking Ballista this allows us to then use Phyrexian Devourer's ability of:

"Exile the top card of your library: Put X +1/+1 counters on Phyrexian Devourer, where X is the exiled card's converted mana cost."

Due to neither Mimeo or Necrotic Ooze actually being Phyrexian Devourer we end up bypassing it's first ability of:

"When Phyrexian Devourer's power is 7 or greater, sacrifice it."

So we're exiling our deck and gaining counters on our Necrotic Ooze/Mimeo which also has the ability of Walking Ballista which allows us to:

"Remove a +1/+1 counter from Walking Ballista: It deals 1 damage to any target."

It seems pretty almost Rube Goldberg-y but we have cards like Buried Alive and Survival of the Fittest and others to more easily assemble the combo. In practice while you probably will go for Hulk more often it's no where near as bad as it seems.

Hopefully I explained it well. If not or if you have any other questions feel free to ask.

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