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|Commander 2017 (C17)||Uncommon|
|Fate Reforged (FRF)||Uncommon|
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Creature — Cat
: You may return another target creature you control to its owner's hand. If you do, Temur Sabertooth gains indestructible until end of turn.
Temur Sabertooth Discussion
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Shimmer/ Paradox Engine allows for mass, instant speed storm, at an insane ease. Yisan, while being better with Engine (untapping Yisan allows for fetching Llanowar Elves into Priest of Titania into Shimmer Myr into Temur Sabertooth or whatever, then keep untapping Yisan to go off until Great Oak Guardian then Sabertooth into infinite mana) still isn't an instant-speed spell, that is the issue. If the gamplan can be Swords to Plowshares ed at sorcery speed, the deck is doing something wrong.
If, just by playing lands, maybe a dork or some rocks, and passing, drawing cards, biding your time until the winning combo or impossibly difficult to win through lock hits the table, respond by casting everything you need to until you win.
This playstyle is Legacy Resetide ( Reset / High Tide with untap effects and a deck made up of Islands and instants, ready to storm until it casts a lethal Stroke of Genius on the opponent). I simply wanted to see if it was possible to accomplish a similar playstyle in Yeva.
You can't build Resetide in EDH because there isn't the consistency of running 7 Resets and 7 Tides (Legacy uses Cunning Wish as a playset for the 7 copies of every card in the deck it needs), nor can it even run enough instant speed draw and untap and ramp to pull it off without them, so mono-blue is out.
Zur can storm off at instant speed using Necropotence and Shimmer Myr , however doesn't have the luxury of doing it at anytime but on their own endstep, making it not a true-instant speed storm, as it can't do it in repsonse to an opponent winning on the opponent's turn.
Yeva, this list, can do it, only given a good hand and a lot of mana, but it can, with GoG and Cat. That was my interest in the deck. The issue was getting Cat, dorks that tapped for enough, and GoG, the mana to go off, and the interaction/protection to pull it all off.
Yeva was a long-shot, but if any deck could do it, Yeva seems like the one. The issue I found immediatly was wincon-lightness and tutor-lightness. The Cloudstone Curio , Paradox Engine wincons of the deck only go off at sorcery speed, so have big issues, however Shimmer Myr solves that, and allows for Walking Ballista , Candelabra of Tawnos (for Gaea's Cradle ), and more rocks to go off. The issue again is tutoring for that, then for the new combos. If this list had the tutor-density that a 3 color list like Zur would, it would work amazingly. As is, it just doesn't get there.
I am going to work further on this and try to get it to work, but Soren841 may be right that this is too difficult to accomplish.
Resetide may have friends in Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir . I may put some time into testing him out. That 5 mana cost is my biggest issue.
4 days ago
Also, what do I do if Temur Sabertooth gets exiled?
1 week ago
CyborgAeon: Honestly, the way the deck has been winning has started to make Brutalizer Exarch seem slightly less practical, but it still a less complex loop than the Eternal Witness / Beast Within line. Winning through attrition is still on the table, so all in all Brutalizer Exarch still puts in a lot of work, but the rest of the deck sort of might not need him anymore.
However, if i do replace him for something, I want it to be something as practical and useful. Nothing really stands out to me though and a tutor is a tutor and I need every tutor that can look for Temur Sabertooth .
I've been wanting to explore the possibility of Memory Jar loops. Aside from that, I'm pretty content with the deck, it's very consistent as much as it can be at least.
1 week ago
Here are some suggested cuts
- Cut Molder Slug for Bane of Progress
- Cut Dawntreader Elk for Cultivate . Same cost, better effect.
- Cut Zhur-Taa Druid for Selvala, Heart of the Wilds . Selvala is ramp and a draw engine in this deck.
- Cut Steel Leaf Champion for Polukranos, World Eater or anything that really rewards your doubling your mana.
- Cut Temur Sabertooth for Greater Good . Sac your creatures in response to removal, then dig deep into your deck and find more threats to end the game.
- Cut Reclamation Sage for Ulvenwald Tracker
2 weeks ago
2 weeks ago
These upgrades aren't huge, cards I'd drop are the following:
Ambush Viper , Lay of the Land , Boundless Realms , Tower Defense , Mortal's Resolve , Fog , Burst of Strength , Panharmonicon , Lure , Verdant Haven , Sandwurm Convergence , Shapers' Sanctuary , Shapers' Sanctuary , Greenseeker , Kalonian Tusker , Oak Street Innkeeper , Duskdale Wurm , Elvish Aberration , Borderland Ranger , Civic Wayfinder , and Centaur's Herald .
These 21 cards don't do enough to warrant inclusion overall, and you can ask me about any specific drops, but I'd not run them. I would argue to run at least 3-5 more Forests (4 for now will be my estimate leaving 17 cards left to work with) and to run the following:
Yisan, the Wanderer Bard , End-Raze Forerunners , Karametra's Acolyte , Terastodon , Reclamation Sage , Primordial Sage , Wolfbriar Elemental , Ulvenwald Tracker , Rampaging Baloths , Regal Force , Temur Sabertooth , Fierce Empath , Harmonize , Rampant Growth , Primal Command , Lignify , and Beast Within
These should all round out the deck! Many are creatures that can be flashed in with big effect, like Yisan, the Wanderer Bard / End-Raze Forerunners / Rampaging Baloths / Regal Force , etc. or are card draw/removal to keep you in the game when an opponent 'goes off'. Often if green gets board wiped they hurt, and while Heroic Intervention helps out, Temur Sabertooth too, sometimes just rebuilding is the answer. Think of the value of in response to a Wrath of God you flash in a Regal Force , draw 7 cards, then on your next turn empty your hand of new creatures to win with!
I chose relatively cheap cards for this list, hoping you don't have to spend to much!
Temur Sabertooth occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.05%