Black Lotus


Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Oldschool 93/94 Legal
MTGO Legal
Vanguard Legal
Leviathan Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Oathbreaker Legal

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Set Rarity
Vintage Masters (VMA) Rare
Unlimited Edition (2ED) Rare
Collector's Edition (CED) Rare
International Collector's Edition (CEI) Rare
Limited Edition Beta (LEB) Rare
Limited Edition Alpha (LEA) Rare

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Black Lotus


, Sacrifice Black Lotus: Add three mana of any one color to your mana pool.

Black Lotus Discussion

TypicalTimmy on Someone is moving Power Nine ...

2 weeks ago

I remember several years ago I was talking to a friend of mine who had a Black Lotus . He told me how he sold it in like 2004 for a few grand. I informed him that (At the time of the conversation) it was going for around $13,000 (Alpha Lotus).

I checked Card Kingdom's Price and it's at $75,000.

So I checked an Index and it seems like on most large sites prices have tanked to $0.00 while three sites stand out in particular:

  • AUB Games (Who?)
  • Best Buylist Price (Again, who??)
  • Card Kingdom - Who it appears settled on $40,000 before selling out their collection

So it seems like whomever this AUB and Buylist are, they are buying a LOT of cards.

The same upward trend is seen on Mox Ruby , making me wonder if someone out there bought into a massive position of Power Nine cards? If so, that sounds to me like some sort of insider trading might be going on.

If someone feels like dumping hundreds of thousands of dollars into Magic, does that mean something is coming? Nobody invests that much without a reason.

It looks like yes, all Power Nine cards have this same trend with the same buyers.

It seems like AUB Games was Copyrighted in 2019.

Honestly, this seriously pisses me off. Like, by a lot.

Yes, most of these cards were out of the budget range for a lot of players. Yet at the same time, it was always a possibility to build good credit and buy one using a credit card. You could finance options and restructure your finances if you really wanted to.

Cards that cost several thousand to around $13,000 were goals people who were really dedicated could reasonably see. For those who are passionate and determined, $13,000 on a card - or even $5,500 - is no different than saving up for car, a set for your music instruments, building a gaming station in your room, putting a downpayment on a house, or even just taking that vacation you've always wanted.

But now some bastard group shot those same cards up by the tens of thousands, meaning nobody except the extremely wealthy can buy them anymore.

And that pisses me off.

Those cards don't do any good sitting on a shelf collecting dust. You can put the value of a card at $75,000 or $120,000 or even $1M but if nobody can buy it, it's worthless.

So now those cards that players and collectors were working toward and hoping to one day acquire are effectively gone forever. And all because some group of degenerate bastard assholes drove the price so freaking high that there is no possible way to obtain them.

I'm sorry, but it's not right. We aren't dealing with Google and Amazon stock here. We are dealing with collectables and pieces of a card game.

This is absurd and shouldn't have happened.

TypicalTimmy on Card creation challenge

1 month ago

Yes, that's an absurdly broken Tezzeret. But at the same time, it's your choice to pay that much life in, let's be honest, T2.

T1 in Legacy / Vintage with a Black Lotus .

Caerwyn on Astarocy

1 month ago

Saw one of your posts - just so you know, you can link cards using double brackets, like so:

Cards: [[Black Lotus]]

Users: [[user:Caerwyn]]

Decks, you start by taking the last part of the Deck's URL, then use either of the following.  So, for your Alta deck (, it would be: 




Cards: Black Lotus

Users: Caerwyn


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Commander / EDH* Astarocy


Caerwyn on List of Bugs and Feature ...

2 months ago

This is relatively minor, and I'm probably the only person who has been bothered by it, so no need to rush on the fix.

For the past couple of months, whenever you post a link to a card, it adds a space after the linked object. This seems to only apply to cards, not persons, decks, or external links. Here's some examples--notice the comma and period placements.

Cards: [[card:Opt]], [[Opt]].

Other link types: [[user:Caerwyn]], [[Caerwyn]].

Cards: Opt , Opt .

Other link types: Caerwyn, Caerwyn.

csyounge01 on Ulamog Colorless EDH

2 months ago

wait, would it be legal to use Karn, the Great Creator 's -2 to fetch Paradox Engine or Black Lotus or nother edh-banned artifact?

KongMing on The Deckwatch [Home Base]

2 months ago

Okay, welcome Mordamen!

The membership fee is $500 or a copy of Black Lotus . Send it to the following address and we'll get you started:

The Deckwatch c.o. Kong Ming
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Pre. 2, 10th Dist., Ravnica

SideBae on float like a gruul, stangg like a stangg twin

3 months ago

So there're a lot of different directions you can take RG decks. I'll suggest some basic, universal additions first, and then suggest some win conditions:


  1. The best part of green in EDH is the dorks. You should definitely run at least Llanowar Elves , but there're some other cards you should consider: Fyndhorn Elves , Elvish Mystic , Birds of Paradise , Arbor Elf , Shaman of Forgotten Ways , Somberwald Sage , Joraga Treespeaker ... If you end up having a lot of elves, running something like Priest of Titania is worth including. Depending on your meta, Carpet of Flowers can get a lot of mana. Finally, Orcish Lumberjack is a card I have been very impressed with... turning a forest into effectively a better Black Lotus is a good thing. (Note that Arbor Elf is especially good if it untaps lands enchanted with Utopia Sprawl , Elvish Guidance or Wild Growth ).

  2. Red-green decks tend to poop out a lot of creatures and go lightly on the spells. Slate of Ancestry is an EXCELLENT way to recoup card advantage, provided you have a critical mass of creatures on the table. Commune with Lava is another excellent pseudo-card-draw thingy. If your games are usually four player games, Decimate is frequently a four-for-one, meaning that it's another good source of permanent-count advantage. Shamanic Revelation is another good draw-spell. If you have fat enough creatures, Rishkar's Expertise may merit an include. Hull Breach is a great two-for-one.

  3. Green-red decks, which tend to be creature-heavy, can be soft to boardwipes. Heroic Intervention is a good way to protect your duders; Grim Flowering and Nature's Resurgence are good ways to recoup cards after losing a bunch of guys.

  4. Tutors are good. Gamble is cheap these days, due to the recent reprint. Green Sun's Zenith , Tooth and Nail and Chord of Calling can all grab powerful creatures to play -- note that GSZ for X = 0 can grab Dryad Arbor , if you run it. Worldly Tutor or Sylvan Tutor are also good.

Win Conditions

Oftentimes, green-red decks win through a combination of Stax pieces and aggro cards.

Potential Stax Pieces:

  1. Blood Moon / Magus of the Moon : If you craft your land base carefully, you can make these into a near asymmetrical effect. A lot of decks benefit from greedy mana bases in EDH, and these are a way to punish that.

  2. Artifact hate is pretty awesome. Collector Ouphe is powerful, since you can get your ramp from creatures while shutting off non-green players' artifact ramp; as an added bonus, you can grab it with Green Sun's Zenith or Chord of Calling . By Force is an excellent card that can nuke a lot of permanents at once, and Nature's Claim is a very efficient removal spell. Krosan Grip may be justified in a heavy-blue meta. Gorilla Shaman is good as a method of artifact-destruction that does not cost you cards. Also Reclamation Sage and Manglehorn .

  3. Gruul has access to a lot of hatebears. Ruric Thar, the Unbowed is a really powerful dude you've already got, as he can club combo players like me really hard. Harsh Mentor is good for punishing all sorts of decks. Eidolon of the Great Revel , and his cousin Pyrostatic Pillar , are both good. Scab-Clan Berserker is similar to Kambal, Consul of Allocation in Orzhov. Runic Armasaur , too.

  4. Cards like Root Maze can shut down combos really quickly, and City of Solitude / Price of Glory can prevent/discourage countermagic. Pyroblast or the Maybeboarded Red Elemental Blast can also be worth running.

Aggro Cards:

Most of the best green decks end the game with an alpha-strike. Craterhoof Behemoth is the best for this, as it can be tutored out with Natural Order or a high-cost Green Sun's Zenith . Similarly, Overrun is good, but I suggest Triumph of the Hordes as a more potent alternative. This does, of course, require creatures on the board, so I suggest some of the following duders:

...and the aforementioned hatebears can also attack.

Good luck! That's all I got.

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