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Nicol Bolas, the Deceiver
Planeswalker — Bolas
[+3]: Each opponent loses 3 life unless that player sacrifices a nonland permanent or discards a card.
[-3]: Destroy a creature. Draw a card.
[-11]: Nicol Bolas, the Deciever deals 7 damage to each opponent. You draw seven cards.
Nicol Bolas, the Deceiver Discussion
3 months ago
Hi Arcan1s_666, thanks for the comment.
I'm still very much in progress modifying my list after WAR. So far it looks like at minimum I'll be losing Liliana Vess and Tezzeret the Seeker and Nicol Bolas, the Deceiver . I'm also looking at increasing the number of instants and sorceries, partially to leverage the new God-Eternal Kefnet . This includes more focus on asymmetric discard sorceries (think Arterial Flow ). Some of these may replace a few of the wheels, because the desired effect is to produce card advantage for me (by reducing opponents cards in hand, or more ideally doing that while also getting card draw from Geth's Grimoire ). I agree that wheeling can be tough when you have one combo piece in hand and few ways to recur them. I use wheels because they force my opponents to discard their entire hands, which gives me a ton of triggers, and because I can Notion Thief to keep those hands empty.
Another answer to that specific problem is to wheel when it would be advantageous to do so even when you have a partial combo. Obviously if you have a full combo you want to keep that hand, but if you have one piece of a combo but you have Geth's Grimoire or Waste Not , go ahead and wheel - you'll draw such a giant flood of cards that you're likely to draw a piece of a different combo and/or a tutor or two. Playing with wheels often requires learning to "let go" of your existing hand even when it has a few pieces you'd like to keep.
I'm also likely to add Yawgmoth's Will back in. It's just too good. Previously I thought I could replace it with Deliver Unto Evil for both cost and flavor, but I think the ideal is actually to just run both. Playing out of my opponents' graves is great, but I'd very much like to play from my own as well when needed.
7 months ago
Thank you for your thoughts and suggestions! While some of these cards you suggested are ones I would like to have, but they are a bit expensive for the budget. I did like your suggestion on having discard as a way to slow down my opponents. When I started building this deck, I was going to add Raiders' Wake and Heartless Pillage in there, but took them away in the end. I do have Herald of Anguish in my collection, so I can easily add that. I also considered having Nicol Bolas, the Deceiver and Visage of Bolas in the deck, which with making opponents discard cards would be nice addition as well.
Mechanized Production looks like it could be worth it in the deck.
8 months ago
if i have to planeswalkers of the same name example Nicol Bolas, the Arisen and Nicol Bolas, the Deceiver, is it the kegend rule that does one of them die. and can i keep them both with Mirror Gallery?
9 months ago
hkhssweiss I will add Nicol Bolas, God-Pharaoh eventually, I believe he is very powerful and deserves a spot in the deck. I will not be adding Nicol Bolas, the Deceiver as I feel he is not powerful enough for 8 mana.
I do like all of your ramp suggestions and will use them if I feel the deck needs more mana-fixing/ramp.
Sweltering Suns and Cower in Fear are too weak to be good in this deck. Sadistic Sacrament is so cruel and so awesome! That card can single handedly take out an opponents chances of winning so I will definitely throw that card in at some point. Countersquall is an auto-include as it’s an on flavour Negate. I removed Slave of Bolas because I felt it was too much mana for the results it produced. Crux of Fate is definitely strong and I will consider it. The only problem with the card is if I come up against a deck with a large amount of dragons. Blood Reckoning will almost never stop the token decks from killing me so I decide not to run it. Imp's Mischief while on flavour, can easily be replaced with a copy of Redirect so that I don’t lose life. Great suggestions!
9 months ago
I feel like you will need to add in all the Nicol Bolas planeswalkers in here. I am very particular to Nicol Bolas, God-Pharoah and should be included in here asap LOL!
Also Nicol Bolas, the Deceiver would be on point with theme as well, since we are in Grixis colors. We need all the mana acceleration ramp, cards like Dimir Signet, Rakdos Signet, Izzet Signet, Talisman of Dominance, and Talisman of Indulgence will help you in casting all the spells since Bolas loves doing things in style.
Hopefully that helps!
11 months ago
Flavour is certainly not lacking in this deck. I still feel it is incomplete without Nicol Bolas, the Deceiver. Cruel Entertainment could also be considered for this deck, as Bolas is a master at that. Control Magic, Corrupted Conscience and Mind Control are all very useful as well: Bolas does all of this and you thieve from your foe. Furthermore, Have you also considered a Jace planeswalker? After all, for a while, he worked for Bolas. The Scorpion God could also be a worthy addition.
I hope these suggestions have helped!
1 year ago
A lot of these are TERRIBLE cards, but still fit the list. A few are creatures with a cast or ETB 'destroy creature/permanent/nonland permanent' bonus effects.
Can't put it in yet since it's in C19, but Meteor Golem Destroys target permanent on ETB. Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre Lux Cannon Desert Twister Angel of Despair Brink of Disaster Maelstrom Pulse Necrotic Sliver Nicol Bolas, the Deceiver Spine of Ish Sah Spread the Sickness Universal Solvent Unstable Obelisk Vindicate Violent Ultimatum Vona, Butcher of Magan Vraska the Unseen
1 year ago
You may want to consider having the ultimate Blue/Black/Red (also known as Grixis for future reference) dragon in here: Nicol Bolas. He has multiple incarnations, including the new one from M19 (Nicol Bolas, the Ravager Flip) and several planeswalkers (Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker, Nicol Bolas, God-Pharaoh, and Nicol Bolas, the Deceiver). He fits the colors of your deck and the control theme, although he may be a bit expensive.
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