Been playing MTG since 3rd edition.

I never look at any deck list for ideas and brew all my decks based on personal experience and natural exposure to playgroups over kitchen table, LGS, and online play.

Become the netted; happy brewing.

Kiyomei says... #1

I mean you brew all your decks on personal experience therefor you lack all insight to comment on my decks. Since your focus is casual kitchen table I know it's hard for you to understand but your comments are non-factor. and unnecessary! (deleted)

Reconsider your comments on my true CEDH decks or you're blocked. that'll be just a warning.

Once you've stepped into the world of Cedh Knowledge be sure to leave suggestions and feedback that is relevant thank you!

Yours truly Kiyomei creator of the top Derevi deck on tapped out ;)

May 24, 2019 2:44 p.m. Edited.

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Sorry but Urza is high power at best. Great list, however. A fast green deck with anti-counter effects will smash this list.

May 23, 2019 4:24 p.m.

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#3

Looks good!

May 18, 2019 10:05 p.m.

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#4

All good. I can be a bit stubborn at times but after my head clears I can think. I'll keep you posted after a few games.

May 17, 2019 5:33 p.m.

Said on Flex...

#5

dingusdingo and Inkmoth, I really appreciate the hard criticism. I've updated the list with some of your suggestions and will play test them out. I wanted to make Eldrazi fit because I used to run with Spawnsire and that was the MOAB of all answers to end the game.

Now with the rules change, I had to let it go.

Thanks again.

May 17, 2019 5:23 p.m.

Said on Flex...

#9

I always enjoy playing the "what if" god hand answer scenario because it just seems so convenient. The thing I like best about this deck is it requires no god hand and I rarely have to mulligan.

I wouldn't say I am a lost cause, I was asked if I consider it cEDH and to me it is. I play against all the referenced decks and win at least 25% of the time. In an evenly matched table one would expect each person to win 1/4th of the time. Perhaps, call it pride? Sure, you would remove the Eldrazi and replace them with answers or graveyard recursion like you suggested.

I appreciate the detailed responses as I have listed to previous comments and took many suggestions during this deck's inception. I still continue to think about ways to optimize it.

Feel free to call it "high power" rather than cEDH but regarless of other's labels I will continue to Flex at a cEDH table.

p.s. Gitrog is not a hard match up

May 17, 2019 4:29 p.m.

Said on Flex...

#10

I wouldn't waste my time getting pubstomped means that I don't get pubstomped in cEDH. If everyone at the table is playing the same power level then ideally the most anyone can win is 25%. Flex's win rate is well above 25% in cEDH. Do I have a spreadsheet showing stats? No. But when you play your deck thousands of times you kinda get a feel for it.

Part of the reason why I worked on this deck list so much is because of that exact stereotype you mention, Azusa is often looked at as a mid-high power commander (depending on the build). So, I enjoy the sneak attack as she can win by turn 3-4.

It's good you mention gas because that is one of the reasons I have 200+ revisions on this deck. I had to find the right balance of lands, ramp, and draw power. In earlier versions of Azusa I ran out of cards by turn 2-3. The wins started coming in when I had the gas to keep moving. I've tried all variants of green / artifact card draw and this seems to be the best outcome that meets my expectations.

In regard to, faster more consistent decks, I implore you to try this one on a free app. You'll find yourself having 10-12 more lands than anyone else by turn 4 and by then you should win. While not capable of a turn 1-2 win, it really is more consistent than other cEDH deck lists and more explosive. I can't recall very many games in which anyone else has more mana than I do with lands, dorks, and rocks combined.

MTG's #1 focus is mana, #2 is draw, #3 is consistency. This deck nails all 3.

May 17, 2019 2:50 p.m.

Said on Flex...

#11

You listed all the good ones. Teferi is probably the easiest match up. Flash hulk was my turn 1-2 in reference, so it's a 50/50 against that. Food chain is never a problem (should never say never but it's a race), and Tymna Thrasios is annoying but they don't draw as much nor can counter anything so it's usually not a problem. cEDH deck lists are short so it's pretty much the same 10 decks over and over again. I'm not really in a position to need to defend my deck's claim to putting up a comparable fight in a cEDH match. All I can tell you is my testimony that I wouldn't waste my time getting pubstomped in a cEDH league or match.

May 17, 2019 2:24 p.m.

Said on Flex...

#12

This is one of 3 decks I play with in cEDH at my LGS, Grand Prix side events, online, and table MTG and I win most matches. The only time I lose is if someone gets a turn 1-2 god hand win (which is not too common). There is always going to be something in MTG that rock, paper, scissors you just as you them. We are all at the mercy of the RNG.

May 17, 2019 1:29 p.m.

Said on Copycat...

#13

Every deck has its crux. However, if you are up against a spell slinger deck Gigantoplasm is your friend. Just turn creatures side ways. Silent Blade Oni is pretty good if you can get multiple copies of him and use their spells against them :) Sire of Stagnation is also a good option but it doesn't really fit the theme so I took it out.

Also, keep in mind your chances of having 1 out of 3 opponents playing creatures is pretty high so just use their stuff to kill the spell slinger guy first.

May 15, 2019 noon Edited.

Said on Copycat...

#14

It's not the fastest deck but with the right hand, you'll have a good flow. It's definitely not super fast but it's an uphill battle for all of your opponents. But, you are correct. I added 3 more ramp. Took out some pillow fort enchantments because I never really needed them as I take all their creatures anyway :) Thank's for the suggestion.

May 15, 2019 1:38 a.m.

Said on Flex...

#16

Fellin22 good question. I consider it cEDH because I play with it at league against cEDH deck lists with a good win loss ratio. My deck has a reputation and everyone at the table knows they are in for an uphill battle. I don't play 1v1 too often but when asked I do play Azusa because of its speed. Swap out the illegal 1v1 cards for Top, City, Dosan, and Conq Flail.

May 10, 2019 10:29 p.m.

Said on Plebstomp...

#17

lol I don't. The first thing you should tutor for is a draw effect. I wish there was an extra land play card outside of green as most games I discard lands.

May 8, 2019 11:31 a.m. Edited.

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