Creature — Elf Druid
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|Vintage Masters (VMA)||Common|
|From the Vault: Twenty (V13)||Mythic Rare|
|Masters Edition (MED)||Common|
|Deckmasters: Garfield vs. Finkel (DKM)||Common|
|Ice Age (ICE)||Common|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Fyndhorn Elves occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.08%
GU (Simic): 0.51%
Fyndhorn Elves Discussion
1 week ago
I see a strong value engine in the command zone, but far too much late-game in the ninety-nine. I would highly recommend cutting much of the seven drops, lest the deck be too slow betime on, thusly being trampled.
Furthermore, the deck needs more sacrifice outlets. With many death triggers comes a dire need to control when they go off, thence you should probably have at least seven.
Ideally, the gameplan is turn one or two ramp and cheap creature, then turn three Meren to return it to your hand.
Now, onto my suggestions.
Upon what I would ablate:
Korozda Guildmage is too slow. Four mana to sacrifice something is awful.
Overseer of the Damned is the same. Seven mana to kill something with a menial deathrattle.
terrastodon is eight mana. I have a deck with seventeen cards of ramp and it's still too much.
Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder may be an exquisitely perfidious character within the lore, hereon he is rather slow. Egregious stats and only lives so long.
I've never quite understood the draw to Yavimaya Elder. Three mana, then requires extra work to find two basics to the hand, whereat even further toiling is required to draw the card. I never liked it, but I suppose.
Phyrexian Rager is too slow, no matter how mad it gets.
Deathsprout is cute, but four mana to remove something whiles providing no value by being a creature.
Sever the Bloodline is a four mana sorcery to kill one thing. If someone plays Kiki-Jiki or Mr. Gitaxias, whereupon their effects are immediate, this won't solve anything. Sure it flashbacks for seven mana, but the additional upside of the card isn't worth it in a singleton format.
Aid from the Cowl is a card I have tested withal. It's effect is slow, capricious, and ineffective. When it does work, it's five mana to maybe get something off of the top. I don't like it.
Thrashy is fine, but is four mana to kill something. Given the foison of similar effects the deck has, just remove it.
Okay, now unto thee I provide sacrifice outlets.
Altar of Dementia is literally perfect for a deck like this. Mill and death, all in one! Viscera Seer is a classic, Carrion Feeder can become massive, Goat Thing comes back by itself and offers caprine fodder, Yawgmoth, Thran Physician is oft the best card in my aristocrats deck though is expensive, and High Market or Phyrexian Tower are always fine.
Victimize is never lacking as it cheats out giants whilst providing sacrifice, Dread Return fills a very similar role, Eternal Witness is always great, Blood for Bones loops with the Witness, and Animate Dead is always great.
Now, cantrips: Grisly Salvage, Winding Way, Grapple with the Past, Ransack the Lab, and Once Upon a Time all filter through the deck, fill the graveyard, save for Once Upon a Time, and find lands or creatures. Furthermore, they are great with Meren, as creatures are to be disinterred.
For ramp, mana dorks are great. Birds of Paradise, Llanowar Elves, Elvish Mystic, Fyndhorn Elves, and Elves of Deep Shadow offer fodder and acceleration. The best is probably Skull Prophet. Mill, fodder, and ramp in one.
Importantly, I add some more draw. Phyrexian Arena, Underworld Connections, Liliana's Standard Bearer, Erebos, Bleak-Hearted, Dark Prophecy, Moldervine Reclamation, and Rankle, Master of Pranks do this deed.
That shall be all from me. Good luck!
1 week ago
Ghalta is a great first time commander. So cool, good job and make sure to have fun. However, you need more ramp. Ghalta comes out usually turn 3-4 on a very cheap budget if you play him right. My first suggestion is to get elves Llanowar Elves, Fyndhorn Elves, Boreal Druid, Arbor Elf,Priest of Titania, Elvish Archdruid, Rishkar, Peema Renegade, Steel Leaf Champion, Gigantosaurus, Gyre Sage And there's a lot more. This makes it so that ghalta can come out early. Karametra's Acolyte is also cool beans
Ghalta is super unique so have fun and add your own twist to it
1 month ago
Cool Deck! +1
However, I do have some suggestions. Marleaf Pixie and Mana Geode don't seem like very good mana ramp cards. Arcane Signet, Firemind Vessel, Thran Dynamo, Worn Powerstone, Prismatic Lens, Gilded Lotus, Mind Stone, Coldsteel Heart, Fyndhorn Elves, Beastcaller Savant and Birds of Paradise are much better options. Also, defiant elves could be replaced, as it is just a 1/1 with trample. Another mana dork might be better, or if you do want a cheap creature with trample, Pelt Collector or Almighty Brushwagg are better.
1 month ago
Pretty solid list so far, I have a few suggestions though. First and foremost, if you haven't checked out the cEDH decklist database, I recommend it. If you're truly wanting to get in to cEDH, then that is a good outlet for deck brewing. There are a bunch of cards in your list that are solid picks for a Kinnan deck, but there are also some that aren't up to snuff with the meta, but that's not a necessarily bad thing. Competitive EDH is about play the most powerful cards in the your color pie to achieve your overall win condition and to do it as efficient and consistent as possible. Kinnan is quite new and people are still trying to find the best way to brew the deck, but his strategy is undoubtedly proactive, so we have to try to overwhelm our opponents as fast as possible.
Here are the cards in your deck that you just don't see in the cEDH meta. Not a bad thing, just something to consider.
Your mana dorks are higher in CMC that the meta heavy mana dorks. This puts them being cast usually around turn two, which is when you want to be casting Kinnan.
Arcum's Astrolabe - It's just way too circumstantial, especially when you only have 6 snow lands in the deck. This card would be dead in your hand most of the time. There are also better mana rocks.
Mind Stone has been sub-par for a while. In cEDH, you want to get plenty of mana as soon as possible so you can start setting up for win quickly. This is why Grim Monolith and Mana Vault are very prevalent in the meta. They are net positive mana rocks that come in quickly.
Whir of Invention and Blue Sun's Zenith are on the cusp of being played in the meta and not, mostly Blue Sun's Zenith as it's used to help draw the deck after getting infinite mana. Usually you see these more in mono blue decks because they have plenty of blue to pay the non-generic mana and can go big with the X cost, however, once you leave mono blue it's very difficult to keep up mana for interaction after casting these and usually when X is greater than 2, it's worth someone countering it. If they're countered, the feel bads set in as you're now 5-6 mana behind. I would suggest cutting at least Whir of Inventions for a cantrip like Brainstorm, Ponder, Preordain that nets you cards for cheap.
Force of Vigor - It's not bad, I've seen a few decks run it that are more on the control side, but Kinnan is trying to be more proactive than reactive. Blue has some of the best removal in the game for cheap. Maybe consider a Chain of Vapor. That way if there is a problematic card for you on the board such as Cursed Totem or Linvala, Keeper of Silence, you can hit it regardless of what it is for one mana regardless of whose turn it is.
There are a few suggestions I'd like to make for you to add that are practically staples for most of the cEDH Kinnan decks:
Seedborn Muse to help you use your commander more and acquire an overwhelming board state.
Right now, if you were to play a game with this list, I wouldn't be afraid of you activating Kinnan because there's nothing that will severely impact the game. Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur is in a lot of the other cEDH decks because getting this guy on the field is detrimental to every opponent's strategy. I suggest you get a higher creature count and put more scary things in the deck. You'll whiff a lot with on activations with a creature count that low.
Here is a link to my current Kinnan build that has been assembling win (in a vaccum) very consistently between turns 3 and 4: Kinnan Activations cEDH
1 month ago
2 months ago
If this is cEDH, why is your curve so high?
I see Deadeye Navigator and Thassa's Oracle, but no way to draw your entire deck or generate infinite mana. Wall of Blossoms, Ice-Fang Coatl, Elvish Visionary, and Baleful Strix can all draw your entire deck if you have infinite mana. They should be auto includes anyway.
2 months ago
Looking good! It's hard to screw up Muldrotha. Just go to value town. Your selection of creatures seems great!
That said, I would include a little more ramp. You are at eightish, which is where one usually wants to be in an EDH deck, but Muldrotha is usually kill-on-sight and 6 CMC. Try to use more things that permanently get a land into the field, which you already have a good amount of, like Cultivate and Kodama's Reach. Also, Wood Elves, Farhaven Elf, and Wayfarer's Bauble can be brought back for value--making them particularly good. Elvish Reclaimer is an interesting choice too.
The one-CMC dorks (Llanowar Elves, Fyndhorn Elves, Elvish Mystic, Boreal Druid, Arbor Elf, Wild Growth (and to a lesser extent Birds of Paradise and Utopia Sprawl) are all extremely good generally for their speed and chumping ability. If they get whacked or boardwiped they can slowly be brought back later. Getting Muldrotha out as soon as possible is very worth it. I don't run many mana dorks in my Muldrotha deck. I would run as few artifact rampers as possible, since you don't have to (as you run Green). Lands are always safest. Commander's Sphere being brought back for the card draw is nice--probably better than the Darksteel Ingot.
Good job on including Evolving Wilds. I would also add Terramorphic Expanse and maybe Myriad Landscape, Warped Landscape, and Blighted Woodland. The Mirage fetches (Bad River, et al) are decent but better with fetchable lands that have two colors--like Sunken Hollow and Watery Grave. Be sure to include Opulent Palace. Exotic Orchard, Grand Coliseum, and Command Tower are worth including too. On a budget, Vivid Marsh, Vivid Creek, and Vivid Grove are all good too. That all said, I still like running a healthy amount of Basic Lands for repeated fetching.
Protecting Muldrotha is important. Kaya's Ghostform is an excellent choice. I would also include a combination of Aspect of Mongoose, Canopy Cover, Alpha Authority, Diplomatic Immunity, Alexi's Cloak, Cloudform, Mystic Veil, Robe of Mirrors, Mirror Shield, Whispersilk Cloak, Neurok Stealthsuit, Mask of Avacyn, and Swiftfoot Boots. Usually the Enchantment Auras are considered weak because they can be two-for-one'd, but Muldrotha can bring them right back!
Personally, I believe every single EDH deck should run at least two boardwipes, and more if you can find the room. Sometimes it's just an emergency. On a budget in Sultai colors I like Crux of Fate and Gaze of Granite the most, followed by In Garruk's Wake (should have the mana!), Deadly Tempest, Decree of Pain, Extinction Event, Hex, Nevinyrral's Disk, Oblivion Stone, Killing Wave, Hythonia the Cruel, Life's Finale, Massacre Girl, Necromantic Selection, and Black Sun's Zenith. Pernicious Deed is great too.
Not everyone likes doing this, but I love running Enchantment-based removal in Muldrotha since it can be reused. Many have strong effects but still aren't worth it since they can be removed but Muldrotha gets rid of that drawback! Things like Corrupted Conscience, Inevitable End, Kasmina's Transmutation, Ichthyomorphosis, Lignify, and Lay Claim. I've actually had good luck with things an innocuous as Universal Solvent.
2 months ago
Hey, the manabase could use some improvements. To clear some deck price for land upgrades could cut Karametra, God of Harvests, Protean Hulk and Path to Exile. This would provide about $24 to use to improve the manabase.
- Command Tower
- Exotic Orchard
- Yavimaya Coast
- Prairie Stream
- Canopy Vista
- Sunpetal Grove
- Port Town
- Fortified Village
- Ash Barrens
More mana dorks are good here because they ramp and trigger Chulane. This kind of ramp is better than land ramp spells that only search for basic lands.
- Birds of Paradise > Hunting Wilds
- Faeburrow Elder > Far Wanderings
- Elvish Mystic > Explosive Vegetation
- Fyndhorn Elves > Circuitous Route
Whitemane Lion is a good creature with Chulane because it has flash. Eladamri's Call is a powerful budget creature tutor. Neoform is another powerful budget tutor that puts the creature you tutor for onto the battlefield. Wargate can tutor for any permanent card and put it onto the battlefield. Cards to consider cutting for these are: Baloth Woodcrasher, Moldgraf Monstrosity, Eternity Vessel, Walking Atlas.
Good luck with your deck.