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Fyndhorn Elves Discussion
7 hours ago
I am going to start by first saying massive props for trying 5-color, second off, you need to fix that mana base, it is better than some that I have seen, but Hissing Quagmire, Shambling Vent, and Wandering Fumarole are useless. The chance of you not only getting them out but then getting the two specific colors that you need to use them is beyond the scope of an actual modern game, and with burn, even if you do get them out, it will just mean that you lost a land. To replace it, use Scry lands, Fast Lands, Shock lands, Buddy Lands, Reveal lands, etc.
Now onto the deck. You have to focus on a single win condition, I see you want to use Tasigur, the Golden Fang, but if your goal is to try and make a 4/5 come out turn 2, and use creature beatdown, I would think mono-green ramp is much better, and I will list a little idea below:
What I actually think is that this is a deck that has no purpose, with weird cards like Yahenni's Expertise with the only mainboard 3-drops being Anger of the Gods, Lingering Souls, and Kolaghan's Command as the most efficient things you can pull out.
This deck at it's current state doesn't seem to work. It won't work. It is interesting, and nothing else from what I have seen.
1 day ago
Terramorphic Expanse, Evolving Wilds and Sylvan Ranger seem unnecessary for this list. They're mostly good for fixing your mana (which, as a mono-green deck, is unneeded). If you really want a 2-drop creature that adds a card to your hand as an ETB, Elvish Visionary is probably a better choice.
Your land count seems kind of high for an elf deck. Your list inspired me to try building Elfball in yet another format, and neither version I built had more than 13 lands (though one version used a land as the Noble).
2 days ago
I really like this deck and I think I might build something similar since I have many of these cards, including the commander, already. If I were you though I would include more mana dorks and land enchantments currently you are only running Elvish Mystic as a manadork but you can add Birds of Paradise, Llanowar Elves, Fyndhorn Elves, Beastcaller Savant, Zhur-Taa Druid, Sylvan Caryatid, Voyaging Satyr, Deathrite Shaman, Gyre Sage, and Arbor Elf. You can also run cards like Wild Growth, Overgrowth, Fertile Ground, Utopia Sprawl, Dictate of Karametra, and other land enchantments which interact very well with Voyaging Satyr and Arbor Elf which can untap an enchanted land. Also, with such a small number of instants and sorceries Primal Surge would destroy any opponent. You could try throwing in some removal as well such as Beast Within and cards that allow creatures to fight your opponents creatures. These can come out of nowhere and decimate your opponents thanks to Xenagos, God of Revels. these could include Epic Confrontation, Prey Upon, Nessian Wilds Ravager, Polukranos, World Eater, Pit Fight, Savage Punch, and Setessan Tactics. You shouldnt include all of these cards but go with whichever ones in each category that you like
6 days ago
Lotus Petal, Mox Opal and Chrome Mox are missing...and what I'm missing as well are all the important 1 drop mana elves, such as Arbor Elf, Noble Hierarch, Elves of Deep Shadow, Avacyn's Pilgrim, Fyndhorn Elves, Llanowar Elves, Boreal Druid and for two mana Bloom Tender. Carpet of Flowers is also a great card, even produces mana in the 2nd main phase on the same turn it has been played!
1 week ago
If you're gonna focus on Elvish Piper to cheat big creatures into play you should streamline your deck a bit. I would cut the 4 Woolly Thoctar and 2 Wild Nacatl for +2 Elvish Piper, +2 Elvish Harbinger and +2 Llanowar Elves. Knotvine Mystic is too color restrictive to your current mana base, so i would cut it for +3 Fyndhorn Elves or +3 Birds of Paradise.
Try cutting Growth Spasm and Lightning Helix for +3 Beast Within, Might of the Nephilim is a very subpar card, cutting it (and the 2 lands) for +3 big creatures or Natural Order would give the deck a good boost.
1 week ago
It looks like you're trying for the "karador beats" theme. This is a super fun way to play and I have a couple of suggestions.
First off, the beaters. Blightsteel Colossus has done serious work for me. If you can shoot him out with an early Pattern of Rebirth, then he gets pretty difficult to work around. I chose him over the eldrazi titans because he doesn't shuffle the graveyard away when he dies. Other good beefies are Ashen Rider, Angel of Despair, and Iona, Shield of Emeria. I'll also heavily back the elesh norn suggestion. it completely shuts animar down and is a great way to get your little dudes back into the fight.
Speaking of little dudes, I have some dorks to suggest. Mana dorks are pretty important in a deck like this, where so many cards cost so much. I choose creatures over rocks because they are easy to bring back. look at Arbor Elf Avacyn's Pilgrim Birds of Paradise Elvish Mystic Fyndhorn Elves Llanowar Elves Weathered Wayfarer. Also, with craterhoof as a threat, people will never stare down a board of mana dorks the same way again.
Living Death synergizes fantastically with Carrion Feeder or Viscera Seer. sac everything on your board for free, drop Living Death, and shoot your opponent's important stuff with your creature removal from your GY.
Things I would take out:Avenger of zendikar and creekwood leige are just too slow and don't really fit the theme. You could argue that you could pod into craterhoof with avenger or that he's a good reanimator target, but I really don't think he fits well in the deck.
Rise of the dark realms is cool, but I don't think that mana cost is worth it for you.
Another thing I've noticed is that your deck is pretty stuffed with high mana cost cards. This is to be expected in a recursion deck, but you need to be careful with what small amount of ramp you have. The deck's theme is a bit frayed but with a little bit of tuning, it looks like it could be super intimidating in your meta.
I hope what I have here helps you out. Check out my deck here and see what you think. It's a more combo-y stax version of karador, but maybe you could check out a couple of my ideas.
1 week ago
Things I've always found sub optimal include your ramp package of Extraplanar Lens and 3 mana dorks, which are fragile and less useful because you're in two colours; (although admittedly kydele CAN tap for upwards of X, she gives you colourless and you don't have any filters to convert back to your staple green blue packets you need. what this means is that when you spend your mana desperately grabbing the top 10 cards of your deck, it won't matter because an opponent has a whole turn to stop you, and you're out of colours. You can hold colours, but then you get less out of your X-spells at midrange.)
I'd in general suggest replacing Fyndhorn Elves with Kiora's Follower for the two fold reason that it's a BETTER dork at all stages of the game except in your opener, with more devotion towards your commander.Imprisoned in the Moon is a solid replacement for Song of the Dryads which I wasn't aware of, great call, but why no Beast Within? Seems like a more solid, instant speed removal although admittedly doesn't remove indestructible.I'm also less solid about Boundless Realms although you seem like you are really in it for the late game here. I always recommend vorinclex or zendikar resurgent over this card, because if drawn later they provide immediate value above tapped lands, which helps more to get your explosive turns out of nowhere.
Not sure what your meta or gameplan is but this seems like a highly political deck that requires establishing a quiet board state and helping to check the big boys at the table to gain favour with the others, causing them to ignore that you have 10+ colourless mana, then boom. If that's the case, I would suggest avoiding obvious and slow win cons like Sphinx's Tutelage and Defense of the Heart unless you're going to include a flash package (Leyline, Orrery, refuge)I would also jump over Ring of Three Wishes to Planar Portal because you get an "uncounterable" (Traditionally) ability to grab whatever piece you're missing at instant speed straight to field, and your opponents won't know what you're getting until you go for it. Obviously the mana is an issue there but that's what kruphix's mana storing ability is for!
2 weeks ago
I would recommend using pump spells that are either free to cast (Invigorate, Mutagenic Growth) or very cheap with a huge effect (Become Immense, Berserk). You want to spend as little mana as possible to make Omnath as big as possible, best with trample as well.
You also might want to check out the other mana elves for cmc 1, for example Fyndhorn Elves, Boreal Druid...the card search will help! Utopia Sprawl is yet another Wild Growth but Abundant Growth does NOT produce additional mana, it just fixes the colour (which you don't need in this deck)