Voice of Many

Voice of Many

Creature — Elf Druid

When Voice of Many enters the battlefield, draw a card for each opponent who controls fewer creatures than you.

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Commander 2019 (C19) Uncommon

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Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Highlander Legal
2019-10-04 Legal
Leviathan Legal
Legacy Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

Voice of Many Discussion

slashdotdash on 5 color no theme deck

2 months ago

Dear Kronhamilton

Golos, Tireless Pilgrim is my favorite commander, and I've been brewing around him ever since he was teased. Let me just say you've chosen an excellent commander.

(I’ve written quite a lot in an attempt to make a sort of guide for you, so if you want the short version, check out the Suggestions panel)

Golos can be tricky to build around since he can do literally anything pretty well. The easiest way to make an effective Golos deck is to lean into Golos's 7 Mana Rainbow Wheel Of Death. Before getting into that though, we need to cover some EDH deckbuilding basics.

I think the most useful advice I can give someone who is just beginning to explore the deck-building territory of EDH is to structure your deck and mind your Ratios. By this I mean it is useful to categorize the cards in your deck according to the role they fulfill.

We’ll begin by looking at some core categories that you’ll want to make your deck function effectively. Then I’ll present the Ratios (how many of each category of card) you will want to make a generic Golos deck function effectively. Next, I’ll include a detailed (but not totally complete, because I’d be here all day) catalogue of cards within some of those categories. I’ll also offer up some suggestions and input about some of your specific card choices. Lastly, since I’m about to unpack a lot of information, I will include a brief list of suggestions (see the bottom) for a generically good Golos ‘Shell’ that should be able to support most Golos strategies.

Categories

  • Draw

  • Ramp

  • Removal

  • Sweepers

  • Threats

  • Support

  • Land

Draw Show

Ramp Show

Removal Show

Sweepers Show

Threats Show

Support Show

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The art of Ratios is all about determining what combination of cards from each category makes your deck run the most smoothly.

Please note that these Ratios will not total to 99 cards. This is because you will invariably have extra flexibility to choose how your deck behaves even after establishing functional Ratios. Also keep in mind that although these Ratios do recommend you adhere to the minimum number of cards in each category, you still can choose which cards will fill those slots. The point is not to restrict your options, but instead to create a ‘Shell’ that is reliable enough to power your Threats cards, Support cards, and other cards. Whatever you do, make sure you have at least the minimum number of Draw and Ramp cards. THE MOST IMPORTANT CARDS IN THE DECK ARE DRAW AND RAMP!!!

While I ultimately suggest Ratios resembling the Basic Golos Shell, I will lay out the Ratios for several different Shells;

  • Template: a sort of baseline beginner’s guide which is commonly promoted as a place to start.

  • Basic Golos: a modified version of the Template that suites most Golos decks.

  • Control: a version tailored for a slower game with many Sweepers.

  • Aggro: a version designed to act quickly and deploy Threats before the opponents are prepared.

  • Big Mana: a version invested heavily into Ramp with the goal of deploying many end-game Threats.

  • Mega Mana: an even more extreme version of Big Mana with extremely expensive Threats.

Template Show

Basic Golos Show

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Aggro Show

Big Mana Show

Mega Mana Show

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Please remember that any suggestions I make are because I am trying to help. Ultimately, the choices you make with your deck are up to you, and I can only provide constructive criticism based on my own experience and opinions.

Good luck :)

Ratio Fixing

The most effective change to your deck would probably be adjusting the Ratios, especially with regard to your Draw cards. Applying the most basic Template Shell, you want to have at least these three quantities nailed down for a smoother and reasonably powerful deck;

  • Lands – 36 --> You have 40 Lands (Cut 4 Lands)

  • Ramp – 10 --> You have 5 true Ramp cards (Add 5 to 8 Ramp cards)

  • Draw – 10 --> You have 3 true Draw cards (Add 7 to 10 Draw cards)

What I counted in your deck Show

Mutate

Depending on how strong your Mutate subtheme is, some of your Mutate inclusions may act as engines. However, I must state that Mutate is a VERY risky and even fragile strategy since your Mutate ‘Pile’ of creatures will all be destroyed at once if your opponent uses a Removal spell or a Sweeper. For that reason, I recommend leaning out of the Mutate theme (unless the Mutate card is just straight-up insane, as in the example of Nethroi, Apex of Death).

With that said, playing a Mutate theme is your decision and I totally respect that and if you want to stick to a Mutate theme then by all means do so. I just want to be sure you know that Mutate is a risky strategy that you cannot depend on to fulfill your Ramp and Draw slots (so you’ll just need to supplement it with other cards).

Cut or Include?

At a glance your deck seems like something you have created using just your collection – and that’s great! However, if you want to incrementally upgrade your deck, then I recommend replacing most of the cards in your deck with more powerful options over time.

Here is a list of cards you should probably keep playing: - Barrier Breach (Removal, because exiling 3 enchantments is helpful in some situations)

In my opinion, there are other, better options for all of the other nonland cards in the deck, however it is up to you to decide on how you would like to proceed so I won’t intrude.

I strongly recommend cutting the Planeswalkers though – Calix, Destiny's Hand doesn’t seem to synergize much with the deck and I feel that Lukka, Coppercoat Outcast is not very potent.

Lands

Just as a recommendation, I would suggest the following spread of Basic Lands;

  • 8 Basic Forests

  • 3 of each other Basic Land

The remainder of your lands could be either more basics (which is really, really, risky if you don’t have tons of Ramp – think like 15 Ramp cards and about 12 Basic Forests) or Color Fixing Lands (see the Catalogue for more options). It is rough to have your lands enter the battlefield tapped, but unless you want to either lean into Green or spend a lot of money on lands, you will just have to live with it (I play around 5-10 tapped lands in a normal Golos deck and it isn’t really that bad).

In this section, I will list out an example of the Basic Golos Shell complete with the necessary Ratios and some examples of good/fun cards in each category. I’ll try to keep it relatively Budget sensitive and most of these cards will be relatively random – this won’t be based on any particular theme so don’t expect it to be optimal.

As a reminder:

Basic Golos Show

The Shell

Ramp – 12

Draw – 13

Removal – 7

Sweepers – 2

Threats – 12

Support – 7

Land – 36

Good Luck :)

-Slashdotdash

MichaaaR on Radha's Elf Tribal (budget)

2 months ago

Hey, thanks for the suggestions! I think Shamanic Revelation, Fireball and/or Voice of Many will find their way into the 99 :)

Exit777 on Radha's Elf Tribal (budget)

2 months ago

Great deck! I'm always a fan of smacking people in the face in EDH.

some suggestions: since you're gonna be spending some BIG mana, why not include a Fireball or two as a classic elfball wincon? If you are looking for another untapper that is a bit more resilient, maybe consider Awakening. Finally, I'm not entirely convinced by the draw package. Shamanic Revelation and Collective Unconscious strike me as the most desirable draw effects when going wide. Also, Voice of Many and Elvish Visionary would be elves that draw cards and be repeatable with Wirewood Symbiote. Just my 2 cents, maybe some of these are helpful

Deadpoo111 on HMB (Hold my baby)

6 months ago

Loving the deck! I don't get to see enough Marwyn decks with pump effects, they're so good with her! There's a lot more untap sources you should try. My favorite is Emerald Charm because it works in so many situations! Malachite Talisman is also really interesting with Marwyn. If you have the money for it, Nyxbloom Ancient and Seedborn Muse would kick this deck into overdrive.

As for cuts, you could take out Greenwood Sentinel, Seer's Lantern, Voice of Many, and Wings of Hubris.

Awesome job! +1

MrTomDawson on Higher Power

6 months ago

Profet93 I'll give you my thoughts in order, if you don't mind?

  1. Harmonize - a long-time inclusion in the deck, I recently took it out in favour of Voice of Many, which is 99% of cases is the exact same card but with a relevant body attached. Rarely does a deck play out more creatures than I do in such short order, meaning it's still for three cards but also pumps Marwyn, Priest, Archdruid and all the other cards that care about number of elves/creatures in play.

  2. Copperhorn Scout - another that was in the deck from its inception, but was recently removed. I found the effect's timing was too inconsistent with what I wanted to be doing; when so many wins come through Ezuri or Craterhoof, being required to wait until post-combat to storm off leaves the deck waiting for another turn cycle to actually win.

  3. Quirion Ranger - this is a good one and should certainly be in here. I'm not sure how I missed it!

  4. Fauna Shaman - a little too slow unless it has haste, generally. Same reason the deck doesn't run Worldly Tutor.

  5. Vines of Vastwood - good shout, need to pick up a copy.

  6. Berserk - another good shout, I'll put it on a wishlist.

  7. Natural Order/Eldritch Evolution - I'm wary of tutors that require me to sacrifice creatures, as a general rule. So much of the deck relies on the sheer weight of numbers that I'd prefer not to sac any Elves if I don't have to. Plus the many mass-draw effects often mean that tutors aren't required too often.

  8. Elvish Visionary - was in, but I think it got cut for another mana-producing Elf.

  9. Lifecrafter's Bestiary - when you need it, it's a bit too mana intensive. Once you've got the spare mana, it's not as necessary. Something of a win-more card IMHO.

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