Marwyn, the Nurturer
Legendary Creature — Elf Druid
Whenever another Elf enters the battlefield under your control, put a +1/+1 counter on Marwyn, the Nurturer.
: Gain an amount of equal to Marwyn's power.
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Marwyn, the Nurturer Discussion
2 days ago
Rhys is so awesome! You definitely need either a lot of dice or an insane amount of tokens! I've been working on my rendition of her army for a bit now 0-60 in 3.5! (Rhys tokens) if you're interested. A few things you might consider:Marwyn, the Nurturer is another mana dork that works insanely well with Rhys. She also becomes a big stick to swing if you don't need the mana. I also love Seedborn Muse which is so broken in a Rhys deck, tokens out the Wazoo! Champion of Lambholt is also a great wincon piece, making your army of tokens virtually unblockable!
2 weeks ago
I think that Llanowar Tribe, Marwyn, the Nurturer, and even Elvish Archdruid are plausible options for the deck, Acolyte is just another option in the slew of powerful choices we have access to nowadays.
2 weeks ago
precociousapprentice: You're totally right about not over committing to Ashaya, Soul of the Wild. Hoever, Ashaya is definitely looking like a "2 card" combo that would appreciate just about any kind of boardstate... Ideally one that includes a creature that can produce 2-3. Now, the elf count would move to 17 if Joraga makes it in... though for this spot, we might be looking at Marwyn, the Nurturer since it can go from neutral to infinite with one Quirion Ranger cast.
2 weeks ago
Interesting topic Ramble, I've been meaning to respond for the last day or two but have just been super busy, but let me provide a mana base formula I stumbled on a few years back after noticing a pattern in my deck building - might be something to try out and see if you find similar results, as I find it's very rare to get either flooded or mana screwed using this formula. I'll provide a couple of examples as well - more for the casual-competitive decks, as my cEDH decks don't always follow the formula as rigorously.
The basic formula for mana-producing lands is: Starting base of 30 mana-producing lands, plus additional lands equal to the CMC of your commander, plus additional lands equal to the average CMC of the deck, minus designated values for each mana rock, mana dork, mana spell and draw spell equal to or less than the CMC of the commander.
The first example is for my Zada, Hedron Grinder deck: Yada...Yada...Zada. In this case, the formula is 30 + 4CMC (commander) + 2.28 average CMC, or 36.28. I then subtract designated values for the following cards in the deck: -1.0 for Mana Crypt, -0.5 for Sol Ring (or any other 0 or 1 CMC rock), -0.25 for Thought Vessel (or any other 2 or 3 CMC rock), Battle Hymn, Brightstone Ritual, Traitorous Greed and Dockside Extortionist, and finally -0.10 for each of the draw spells in the deck: Accelerate, Boiling Blood, Crimson Wisps, Expedite, Fists of Flame, Stun and Renegade Tactics for a total reduction of 3.45 and a final value of 32.83 (rounded up to 33).
The second example includes a more aggressive reduction in mana-producing lands based on my Elf tribal Marwyn, the Nurturer deck: Elves Tap and Slap (Marwyn Tribal Counters). The formula here is 30 + 3CMC (commander) + 2.64 average CMC, or 35.64. I then subtract for the following cards: -0.50 for Sol Ring, -0.25 for Elvish Archdruid, Elvish Mystic, Fyndhorn Elves, Gyre Sage, Incubation Druid, Llanowar Elves, Llanowar Visionary, Priest of Titania, Rishkar, Peema Renegade, Selvala, Heart of the Wilds, Viridian Joiner, Wood Elves, Cultivate, Kodama's Reach, Nissa's Pilgrimage, Rhonas's Monument, Gaea's Touch and Growing Rites of Itlimoc Flip. Finally, I subtract -0.10 for Elvish Visionary, Llanowar Visionary and Inspiring Call for a total reduction of 5.30 and a final value of 30.34 (rounded down to 30).
Although the reduction values could be considered a little arbitrary in certain deck concepts, this formula has held pretty accurate since I started keeping track of it. I hope you find this useful in the future, and happy brewing.
3 weeks ago
2 months ago
Wirex thanks for the suggestions. I definitely feel that a big game ending spell is necessary, and Banefire looks like it would do really well in that slot. Sudden Spinnerets very nearly made the cut here, but it just seemed to be the weakest of the untap effects, especially since Marwyn, the Nurturer is ideally wanting buffs to her power as well here. Confront the Unknown was also considered, but since you need to then pay to draw cards off them, I preferred Return of the Wildspeaker as our big draw engine, since one of our elves will normally be quite big. However, the big pump it gives could be interesting with Marwyn, so I might give it another look. Thanks again for all your great help with the deck.
2 months ago
Hey, welcome to TappedOut. Good budget version and start for your first Commander deck.
On a budget consider expanding on Elves to make repeatable mana to activate Radha? You have Priest of Titania already which is great there's also Elvish Archdruid and Marwyn, the Nurturer. Grand Warlord Radha and Radha, Heir to Keld can make mana when they attack and Grand Warlord makes mana equal the the number of creatures who are attacking. The mana that they make when they and other creatures attack can be used in combat to activate Heart of Keld. In Magic you're allowed to control multiple Radha's with different names on the battlefield at the same time. The legendary rule only applies when you control two legendary cards with the same name on the battlefield.
Mina and Denn, Wildborn has good interaction with Rahda since it lets you play more than one land a turn from the top of your library or hand. It can also give Radha trample by bouncing a land you control. Wood Elves, Farhaven Elf and Springbloom Druid land ramp for a basic land which puts another land onto the battlefield for Radha's pump. Wood Elves can search for a Forest or a Forest dual land such as Cinder Glade or Sheltered Thicket. Being able to ramp with a dual land is very helpful.
Ezuri, Renegade Leader can be repeatable protection for Radha/other Elves with regeneration and it can be another mana sink to give Radha as well as all other Elves you control pump and trample. Beast Whisperer can be repeatable draw when you cast a creature.
Other Elves to consider adding:
Quartzwood Crasher is very good with one of the best cards in your deck Garruk's Uprising for trample and repeatable draw. Uprising gives all your creatures including Radha trample and with Crasher when those creatures do combat damage you create a Dino token that has power/toughness equal to the amount of damage those creatures did. These Dino tokens can be huge.
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2 months ago
Nice deck. But wouldn't Marwyn, the Nurturer be a better commander since she is part of your combo? I run a Marwyn deck (used to be Ezuri) and its doing pretty good. I don't run Helix Pinnacle, instead i run lots of Glimpse of Nature effects to snowball through my deck. If you run Ezuri as your commander you don't really need Helix Pinnacle since infinite mana with Ezuri in your command zone means infinitely big elves with trample. My deck: Marwyn EDH