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3 days ago
Some improvements for the decks after messing with it. Noticed that the biggest counter to the deck is control. Currently takes quite a lot to get the deck going, and having stuff blow up sucks. Definitely turn 4 (or earlier if you can ramp) get Tana out, and next turn play Sidar and start swinging with Tana to start getting saprolings out ASAP.Early game needs to focus on ramping and getting both commanders out and pumping out Saprolings ASAP. I noticed that hydras were a bit of dead draws. I never really wanted to play them over buffing on Tana.
Card Draw:Skullclamp Can use a few saprolings for good card drawHunter's Insight Play this on Tana. Worst case 2 cards, best case a lot more (if she's buffed)Keen Sense While only one card, 1 mana for guaranteed card draw per turn is nice.Regal Force Luckily Saprolings are green, so this can be a juicy card drawer.Fecundity With skullclamp = lots of cards. Otherwise a board wipe isn't an issue eitherSlate of Ancestry Gets rid of that bad hand for more cards, especially if hand is getting empty.
Buff Cards (replacing some blood rush could be helpful):
Chorus of Might
Intangible Virtue Can be beneficial if you only apply 1 buff to saprolings (so they cant be blocked)Might of the Masses Give Tana a huge buff for 1 mana
Triumph of the Hordes Can easily win with infect, or kill people with it
Brave the Sands Have an army of blockers and attackers constantlyGratuitous Violence Double damage without double strike
More Saprolings:Second Harvest
Parallel LivesPrimal Vigor
Verdant Force This one is amazing
Selesnya Evangel Helps get the early saprolings out.
Growing Ranks Again 1 saproling per turnSecure the Wastes While not saprolings, you can just make some soldiers instantly
More removal:Aura Shards This will shit on Zur so hard.
More ramp (Accelerates game, mana fixes, and reduces chance of annoying land draw):Harvest Season Swing in with saprolings and Tana and double landObelisk of Naya Fixes mana a bit since it is 3 colorsExplore
Nature's Lore Pair this with one of those dual color cards that have Forest type for good mana fixing
Land:Getting some more dual colored lands can be helpful. Especially those scry lands.Also potentially Naya Panorama if you think mana fixing could be useful (green has good ramp to do the fixing you would want anyway).
Infinite Combats and win:Breath of Fury
4 days ago
If you plan on ever having hope to hard cast one of your eldrazi's in this deck, I might suggest adding AT LEAST one more mana ramp spell to the mainboard. Perhaps something like Explore, which also fits the theme of your constant card draw, too.
4 days ago
I didn't expect so many options! Here's what I'm interested in...
- Crop Rotation
- Sakura-Tribe Elder
- Avenger of Zendikar
- Tempt with Discovery
- Sylvan Scrying
- Rampant Growth
- Nissa's Pilgrimage
- Kodama's Reach
- Explosive Vegetation
6 days ago
First, are you playing competitively or for fun? Either way, Garruk has a high cmc and most games wont get that far. Instead, for a budget, look into Contagion Engine if you playing for fun as well. Non Budget, look into Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon. Birds of Paradise will give you mana ramp and Explore will give you mana ramp and card draw. Get on youtube and search for "$20 competitive infect deck". It may give you some ideas as well.
6 days ago
Oh yeah my brother has a beast deck, I will post it in here and you can see some good mana search cards and good creatures to add. Plus if you are building your deck around Nissa, Nature's Artisan I would add maybe a few small creatures that you can ramp and build off of. I think that Hero of Leina Tower would be great too. Just maybe add a Giant Growth, Overrun, and Explore. All suggestions not trying to force my opinion and I never want to pressure anyone.
1 week ago
Thanks @toastySmorc! I think Explore is more fitting than Rampant Growth because it draws triggering Lorescale Coatl as well as assisting me with ramp... I do really like the option of Progenitor Mimic though. That can a pretty cool option to think about.
1 week ago
This is a really interesting deck idea. Progenitor Mimic maybe?
1 week ago
first of all, no need to apologise for critisism, as this is YOUR deck, and i'm trying to both help you, improve my own deckbuilding and have a good conversation about way too expensive cardboard :). you can leave formalities behind and so will i, unless that discomforts you of course.
i like your view on cards, as it differs with mine. this is probably because of the difference in playgroups, e.g. the issue of big things getting countered. (this rarely happens in my group, mainly cause i am the blue player playing very little counterspells. destroying things is the way to go)
i have two different points i want to bring out there, first point is about your reaction on my post, the second one is going to be about your "craving" for piloting a versitile deck rather than winning with a sequenced set number of cards.
so Woodland Bellower seems pretty good in the deck, however it cannot tutor Trinket Mage for it is not a non-legendary green creature. nevertheless it does tutor the Reclamation Sage, Eternal Witness etc.
Clever Impersonator: i get the idea of why this card is in the deck. even though versatility is key, this card is not going to help you close out the game when you are on the winning hand (assuming being on the winning hand is having a far better board state). mirage mirror would be my go-to replacement for this card as it is more versitile. apart from biomancer and fathom mage there's not much to copy in your own deck, but that was never the point of Clever Impersonator.
Oran-Rief Hydra: if this is a spotholder for a huge creature that grows if left unchecked i would still stress that it would be replaced. this time around i found Heroes' Bane to be the better option. although it is not a big change, this would optimize mana-cost and add yet another way to spend mana.
never judge a book by its cover, i completely missed Zameck Guildmage his second ability.
Tuskguard Captain: if flying is what you prefer, what about instead paying 6 mana to give your creatures with counters flying Sapphire Drake, you pay 6 mana to give ALL your creatures flying and have all your opponents' creatures lose that ability: Archetype of Imagination
is it right for me to say that having a lot of counters on one creature is more important than having lots of creatures with counters on them? if it is, then thrumming bird isnt really doing much. the inability of this deck (which isnt a bad thing per se) to easily place counters on creatures that haven't got any is what made me question Master Biomancer in the first place, after reading it today i realised it didnt need any counters to work. nevertheless in these 100 cards there are 5 cards that can give creatures counters: Plaxcaster Frogling, Master Biomancer, Zameck Guildmage, Bow of Nylea and Retreat to Kazandu. all of this gives me the feeling a proliferate trigger wont do much, same goes for hardened scales, as 1 more counter on a 13/13 hydra wouldnt make that much difference anymore. conclusion: consider taking out thrummingbird, hardened scales and retreat to kazandu.
to replace these cards you will need ramp, for your deck uses a lot of mana. i cant stress enough how important land based ramp is for your deck, as it is using a wild variety of hard-to-cast cards like Prime Speaker Zegana, Plasm Capture and Alchemist's Refuge, but i respect the issue at hand. i have come up with a small list of ramp that might counter the issue i know all too well: the pain of drawing cultivate in the most important part of the game.
these cards all replace themselves if you draw them lategame. some draw you even more. an honarable mention could be Abundance
i'm thinking about versitality and i am actually wondering what that means for you as a player. is it adding cards like Orochi Hatchery ?