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Elvish Mystic Discussion
1 hour ago
Oh, I take back what I said, forget it, sorry about me white-knighting the competitive tag in the past (not far past, but still) and I love the list!
If you really want to make it competitive, I can't promise I can make Arahbo tier 1, but tier 2-3 I can do, as long as you are willing to drop some of the more fun cats, and are able to build up this deck to become a stax-beatdown hybrid.
Okay, so to start, consistency is key, more tutors should be the goal, think Fauna Shaman and Survival of the Fittest type cards, and you'd really want to slow the deck down, which is the opposite of what most people will say.
Running Vryn Wingmare, Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, Glowrider, and Thorn of Amethyst can stop many combo decks in their tracks, and shut off storm decks in general, while not slowing you down nearly as much. Avacyn's Pilgrim, Birds of Paradise, Llanowar Elves, Arbor Elf, Elvish Mystic, Fyndhorn Elves, and Boreal Druid are all fast mana ramp that gets you to dropping your commander + Lost Leonin combo (what I believe to be the simplest wincon) faster and also gets unaffected by non-creature hate.
Effectively I am arguing for stax, but not just stax, also combo, running the combo you already have is fine, Archangel of Thune and Spike Feeder, however it doesn't win the game until your next turn unless you already have a large amount of mana, or an Aetherflux Reservoir type effect.
Consider Priest of Titania/Elvish Archdruid/Wirewood Channeler + Umbral Mantle/Sword of the Paruns/Staff of Domination as a powerful combo with cards that are individually useful. Emptying all of that infinite mana into a Genesis Wave or Walking Ballista can easily win games.
Okay, for the 50 bucks thing, Armageddon, Ramunap Excavator, Glowrider, Vryn Wingmare, Aven Mindcensor, Norn's Annex, Ghostly Prison, Spirit of the Labyrinth, Birds of Paradise, Llanowar Elves, Fyndhorn Elves, Arbor Elf, Elvish Mystic, Yisan, the Wanderer Bard, Boreal Druid, Avacyn's Pilgrim, Nature's Claim, Dryad Militant, Rest in Peace, Path to Exile, Suppression Field, Aura of Silence, Beast Within, Manglehorn, Mother of Runes, and Return to Dust add up to $49.95 on TCGplayer not including tax or shipping costs, and make up a core stax build, with other reasonably cheap cards that could help being Root Maze, Natural State.
1 day ago
lagotripha you are completely correct. Testing is the only way I'm going to perfect this. I am glad that my swaps check out tho.
@ancientskull, you are also correct Arbor Elf would pull more weight than Elvish Mystic because it can tap for 1 or more Green whereas Elvish Mystic can only tap for 1 Green unless you lvl up Joraga Treespeaker which has never been in the gameplan. I don't think that Utopia Sprawl fit's in the deck. It has much more of an aggro playstyle, pumping out turn 2 Steel Leaf Champions and other three drops. It would basically function as abother land, allowing me for a turn 2 Omnath, Locus of Mana. What it wouldn't do however is get the ramping power off Vernal Bloom and Early Harvest. That's why I just don't think Utopia Sprawl fits in this deck.
3 days ago
Seems like the deck is divided between go-wide/tokens, ramping into giant creatures, lifegain and +1/+1 counters. I think your first step is to determine which of those strategies can blend the best, and then pick one or two to focus on. I love my pet cards too, but sometimes too many that are spread out all over the board hinders the deck's synergies.
This is not my main format, so I don't know if this is actually helpful, but I hope it is in some capacity!
Feel free to message me if you want to discuss more.
4 days ago
Okay, take two with the new commander.
Shalai wants to go wide with a lot of tokens, then to pump them up with her ability, as you get a whole load of hexproof tokens that get +1/+1, so I will recycle the rhetoric I used with Trotstani about tokens. You should probably think about abusing a go-wide strategy.
I playtested this deck 5 times, you have a serious problem with a lack of card draw. I playtest until turn 8, and you were consistently running out of cards. If you wish to assemble your Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Platinum Angel + Shalai, Voice of Plenty + Tajuru Preserver combo, you need draw and tutors. For reference, my wizard deck combos off pretty reliably by turn 8, most combo heavy decks will combo off by turn 4 at the earliest, turn 10 at the latest.
Okay now to the cards:
I repeat myself with Soul Warden You'll want her two sisters, I named them in my last comment.
Elvish Mystic et al. is nice, you are in green, so you may want more ramp past a few dorks.
Shapers' Sanctuary erm... your commander gives everything bar herself hexproof. You won't be using this effect often at all.
Naturalize does too little. If you want enchantment/artifact hate, go for reusable rather than spot removal.
Elemental Bond and Triumph of Ferocity the draw is nice, but the card is better suited in a big stuff deck or in a deck with etb abuse, your deck isn't quite a bigstuff deck, but if you added more powerful creatures then it'd be better.
Krosan Grip same comment about naturalize, if you're going to keep one, keep this one due to split second.
Mirri, Weatherlight Duelist wants you to play in a go wide token strat too.
Aura Shards I'd be careful with playing with this, it is a very strong card.
Harmonize is fine, I do suggest you add more drawpower to your deck though.
Rhox Faithmender while great in a trotstani deck, does not do much for you in this deck, as you do not have all that much lifegain. Including the faithmender, you have 4 creatures which give you some form of lifegain.
Wrath of God interesting include, considering that you are very reliant on your own board state.
Terminus is fine, but again, you're very reliant on your own board state, so I'm not sure you want to include boardwipes...
Nissa, Genesis Mage is expensive and pretty bad compared to other nissa walkers. There are far, far better nissa walkers.
Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite is a fantastic card, especially for tokens.
Reya Dawnbringer is very expensive for what she does. THere are cheaper ways to recur in white/green... if you even want to do that.
In the end, I feel like you've chosen two commanders now which really want to push you into a token strategy, and you've included some cards which are fantastic for token decks, and yet you have not built a token deck.
You really, really need more drawpower and ramp if you want to stay on your semi-combo big angels strategy.
If you want to go for angels, why not go angel tribal?
1 week ago
1 week ago
im wondering if this deck would benefit more from mana dorks like Elves of Deep Shadow , Avacyn's Pilgrim , Elvish Mystic, Fyndhorn Elves or Llanowar Elves in terms of speed, instead of turn 2 mana rocks or uncolored mana from sol ring or mana crypt.
1 week ago
i feel like this deck would be faster if it did a bit more turn 1. i can see why you don't want to play fast mana rocks or Ancient Tomb, but maybe you can drop some Elvish Mystic or similar 1cmc turn 1
2 weeks ago
It's worth adding as well, you can come across cards that can kill two birds with one stone. These are judgement call cards typically as they will usually be expesnive as balls mana wise. That or they will be rather niche. But in some circumstances, niche is good.
For example, I run Heart Warden in my Saffi Eriksdotter deck. While warden is both a suboptimal dork (2 drop that only produces G - not the worst dork in the world but Elvish Mystic would be better) as well as expensive card advantage (If you want the card the same turn you play it you're paying 4 mana), it generates really good value in a graveyard recursion deck. as But as I said, judgement call.
Same goes for stuff like Mystic Confluence. It's a great replacement for Jace's Ingenuity, but I would treat it as that rather than a counterspell. It can very easily be, but it comes down to how you classify the card.