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8 hours ago
10 hours ago
I see you either bought the prebuilt or you went and got the commander's anthology, either way I like your pick of Roon. Now a bunch of these cards are either niche playable, or sadly don't have much relevance since they do nothing in the absolute worst case, but I'll get onto that topic a little later.
Now first begs the question: "Where am I going with Roon and what are my win conditions" You can't just drown your opponents is straight value and hope they give up because you drew so many cards. So you can go 3 ways:
Bant aggro/good stuff: This deck abuses the fact that Roon is a 4/4 beater with trample and vigilance that can save a creature or remove a blocker, the deck is more focused on the value it gains for using cards like Cathars' Crusade, Meadowboon, and Call for Unity to allow the smaller value creatures that can incidentally help get to the bigger threats do something (swing face): Solemn Simulacrum, Farhaven Elf, Mulldrifter and smaller bodied tokens to get bigger in case the value threats are gone or to close out games faster. It's finishers are go-wide aggro threats that play off cards like the crusade like Avenger of Zendikar, Walker of the Grove, Trostani's Summoner, Hornet Queen, Armada Wurm, and Craterhoof Behemoth to play off of all those tokens. Birthing Pod is a must for this style of deck as it allows you to get those value threats faster with no real setback. typically has some interaction like Counterspell or obligatory Cyclonic Rift, other than that its a value aggro deck.
Bant value control: This style really abuses the fact that Roon can blink stuff. Its focus is to lock its opponents out any way it can. Some styles of this variant vary, like hard lock, and soft lock. It has some of the same building blocks as aggro like using Mulldrifter and Solemn Simulacrum, but it focuses more on abusing Roon's ability with cards like Training Grounds and denying its opponents with value with Stonehorn Dignitary, Mystic Snake, Reflector Mage, Nevermaker, and Gilded Drake. Obviously it focuses less on attacking so its value threats use their abilities more to influence opponent's. It plays counterspells and good spot removal to assure victory, it can even hedge into becoming a stax build, (hard lock).
Hybrid: It has the best of both worlds with, it doesn't focus too much on either but has the ability to win on either front. this style sacrifices a consistent win condition to go and secure a spot to play value creatures and typically beats face for victory in multiplayer by stalling out scarier opponents and making allies with Roon's blink ability. In 1v1 it has the capability to dominate equally fast decks with its splashed control aspect. It uses the crusade as well, along with those huge value threats like the avenger of zendikar and birthing pod (for value), along with controlling value creatures like the stonehorn dignitary and gilded drake (secret tech, run Thought-Knot Seer). Some play more into one aspect over the other, and that's fine.
At the end of it all Roon is exceedingly versatile and can meet most standards you set it to, however Roon decks can be hosed by an artifact and its creature variants. Torpor Orb, if you don't have something to play around this like Naturalize, Krosan Grip, or Return to Dust there is really nothing your deck can do to stop it. The same goes for the creature variants, Hushwing Gryff/Tocatli Honor Guard, however since they are creatures they are inherently easier to remove, like with Swords to Plowshares, and Path to Exile. Some control variants play one or more of the value threats or Meadowboon to play around Orb when they don't have artifact/creature removal.
I tend to stay away from cards like Ghostway and Ghostly Flicker since they do nothing when you have no creatures on the battlefield, unlike their creature counterparts they can't block when you need a blocker. You have found a couple of blink creatures that fit the bill, and one that I didn't know existed! There is one to keep in mind though: Eldrazi Displacer its a fantastic card I recommend. Like mistmeadow witch and Roon it has repeatable blink, but it returns immediately, although tapped it can be used to invalidate blockers or to gain value. However you will need a bit more reliable colorless sources, which is why there are basics called Wastes, if you do run this I recommend running 3-4 wastes (4-6 if you have the seer).
Feel free to ask questions or peek at my list.
I hope this helps your brewing process, as well as others who seek to make a Roon deck!
16 hours ago
@hookedonkronix: I like Spellskite, don't get me wrong, but Phyrexian Metamorph has too many juicy targets, such as the mana doublers, or the Amulet of Vigor, with which you can start stacking triggers from having two of them. Instantly enables going infinite.
@feyn_do_alduin: Drain Power isn't used much, probably due to being very situational. Weaker in multiplayer anyway, and I'd have to replace a counterspell to fit it in. I'd rather have a Counterspell.
@Mgsegal: This deck does have flavor, but not really on purpose. Tamiyo, the Moon Sage could be fit in I suppose, maybe replace Flow of Ideas, although I think that cards better, as you'll draw in insane number of cards off your many islands. So why spend way more money for Tamiyo?
@Basuei: Thanks! It's fun as hell to play, but not easy. it's almost like solving a puzzle every turn, seeing when and how you can go off with what pieces!
hfvalenz: This deck is mainly a combo deck, but Moonfolk Offering is pretty cool for sure. Terrain Generator is just not very good, considering the commander does it way better. As for Coral Atoll, I think it's worse than it looks, since you can't even tap the island it's going to replace. Pretty lame.
As for Dizzy Spell, I had looked at adding it, but it's just not worth a slot. The reason something like Muddle the Mixture is so good is because it's good on it's own, as a counterspell. Dizzy Spell just sucks on it's own. And there's a plethora of artifact tutors in this deck to find the Amulet.
1 day ago
This deck is pretty annoying, played against it just a few minutes ago, the fact that you can't block anything and whenever you try to daal with the enchantments/equipments/ninjas you would usually have Counterspell or Familiar's Ruse against something that you'd try to destroy them with. NO LONGER FRIENDS WITH NAHKAJUMALA. WAS NICE TO KNOW YOU :D
2 days ago
Picked up some new cards at PAX weekend.
- Pilgrim's Eye
- Llanowar Elves
- Secluded Steppe
- Borrowing 100,000 Arrows
- Soltari Champion
- Blue Sun's Zenith
- Skyward Eye Prophets
- Beacon Hawk
- Thran Dynamo
- Birds of Paradise
- Concordant Crossroads
- Beastmaster Ascension
- Yosei, the Morning Star
- Sphinx's Revelation
- Keiga, the Tide Star
Also noting some other changes from earlier:Out:
- AEthermage's Touch
- Another card I have forgotten
3 days ago
Overall, your deck seems like it's got a bit of an identity crisis. On one hand, it wants to play loads of big, splashy angels, but on the other, it wants to be a classic UW draw-go control sort of build. If you want to go the angel tribal route, I would switch the commander to something that gets you access to green, like Jenara, Asura of War or Sigarda, Host of Herons in order to get some much needed ramp (more on that later). If you want a more controlling build, I would stick with GAAIV but cut most of the angels. Control builds in EDH tend to win via infinite combo (in the case of "traditional" control, like your deck) or via locking everyone else out of the game with cards like Smokestack and Winter Orb.
Also, you're in sore need of some card draw. Without it, you're going to be stuck in the late-game waiting to topdeck something useful while your opponents are winning the game. Rhystic Study and it's cousin, Mystic Remora are staple cards for blue decks. Adding some extra cantrips, like Brainstorm, Anticipate, and Preordain will help you stack your draws and get the best of your cards. Some other good card draw options are Recurring Insight, Jace, the Mind Sculptor, Fact or Fiction, Foresee, Blue Sun's Zenith, and Consecrated Sphinx.
I mentioned ramp earlier, which your deck DEFINITELY needs more of. Angels are expensive, and they won't do you much good when you don't have the mana to cast them. First of all, I recommend running at least 36 lands, and maybe picking up a few more dual lands, like Azorius Chancery and Glacial Fortress. Another important thing to consider is mana rocks. Azorius Signet is an autoinclude, Hedron Archive is great in slower decks, and Fellwar Stone, while more effective in 3 to 5 colors, is still a great rock, especially when you're playing against two or three other people who'll probably have the colors of mana you'll need. White also has some non-artifact ramp options, like Weathered Wayfarer and Land Tax, which often put in serious work. If you splash some green, you also get stuff like Cultivate/Kodama's Reach, Sakura-Tribe Elder, Burgeoning, and Exploration to help get your angels out as quick as possible.
You're also running low on tutor effects, which are essential in a format where you can only run 1 copy of a given card. Unfortunately, the best tutor effects (for your deck) are green and black, so you'll have to make do with cards like Enlightened Tutor, Muddle the Mixture, and Fabricate, although adding green (hint hint) gets you great cards like Eladamri's Call, Wargate, and Green Sun's Zenith.
Finally, I would cut out some of your worse counterspells (Absorb, Dispel, etc.) for some removal, hate cards, and better counterspells. Board wipes like Austere Command, Wrath of God, Supreme Verdict, and overloaded Cyclonic Rift are all extremely useful, hate cards like Rest in Peace, Dawn to Dusk, and Grafdigger's Cage hose powerful decks, and white, being the king of removal, has some awesome spells like Path to Exile, Condemn, and Oblivion Ring. For counterspells, I would consider Cryptic Command, Summary Dismissal, Overwhelming Intellect, and of course, Counterspell.
4 days ago
This Reddit thread has a lot of good answers. Mainly, it's the fact that you can't expect to always be able to cast it. If it was something along the lines of Silumgar's Scorn (i.e. Force Spike if you don't bounce a creature, Counterspell if you do), I would like it a lot more.
6 days ago
Of course these are just suggestions if you really want a card go for it
Some other suggestions
Your creatures are pretty weak, you can control your opponent for a long time but you're missing the dmg to finish it.
If you want to focus more on flying you could use:
Hope i could help :)