Treasonous Ogre


Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Leviathan Legal
Legacy Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Conspiracy (CNS) Uncommon

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Treasonous Ogre

Creature — Ogre Shaman

Dethrone (Whenever this creature attacks the player with the most life or tied for most life, put a +1/+1 counter on it.)

Pay 3 life: Add {R} to your mana pool.

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Treasonous Ogre Discussion

DexztrO on Grenzo ft. DJ Doomsday | Competitive Primer

17 hours ago

Do you have any thoughts about Treasonous Ogre over Overeager Apprentice? Its good in the main pile and can produce more mana then Overeager Apprentice.

Shinwizzles on Marchesa, the Black Rose EDH: Steal Yo Gurl!

2 weeks ago

mtgftw2014, thanks for the compliment and suggestions! Marchesa, the Black Rose is probably one of my favorite Grixis commanders. Her ability is super unique, and her colors make her a perfect commander for innumerable underhanded tactics.

While I do think that Graft is a neat mechanic, there aren't many cards to choose from that would really benefit the deck. There are four that I can think of that are blue, and they'd either let me untap a creature (Vigean Graftmage), draw a card (Novijen Sages), give someone flying (Helium Squirter), or steal a creature (Cytoplast Manipulator). To be honest, I've been on the fence about Cytoplast Manipulator for some time now. Seems to me like that is the only Graft card that would benefit the deck, as well as fit the theme. I think I may have to find a slot for that one. I can see how Graft could be conditionally useful in some specific boardwipe situations, but I don't see myself running into those situations often. Getting the +1/+1 counters back on my dudes post-resurrection isn't too much of an issue, especially if I have something to ensure the Dethrone trigger like Unspeakable Symbol, Treasonous Ogre, Phyrexian Reclamation, or Greed.

I'm also afraid that Graft doesn't work quite as you'd hoped though. Marchesa, the Black Rose's ability looks for the +1/+1 counter on the creature as it dies. If we remove that last counter, the creature will become a 0/0 and it'll die without returning.

As for Coffin Queen/Hell's Caretaker, I think I'll have to find a place for Coffin Queen in the deck. I prefer the Coffin Queen since she doesn't discriminate between my graveyard and my opponents'. Hell's Caretaker is a little too restrictive with the requirements as well. I'd need only to either flicker or resurrect (via Marchesa, the Black Rose's ability) the stolen creature in order to keep it and use the Coffin Queen's ability again. I like that.

Thanks again for the suggestions! Looks like I have some updates to make!

monkeryz on Heartless Hidetsugu [EDH]

3 weeks ago

Shane.Allen Actually as long as you're at an odd life total you will end the game at 1 life and not 0. However two effects that double damage will result in a draw. So while playing it's important to pay attention to life totals and to utilize things like fetches and Treasonous Ogre

BMHKain on Descisions... Descisions... New Gates... or ...

4 weeks ago

Well after my denial w/ Boros, I actually have one other plan in mind...

Should I make a Gate Deck, or what? Just asking to be sure...

Romer on Purphoros, God of Tokens

4 weeks ago

@xJonahSlayerx: Yeah, card draw and removal are definitely key. For card advantage, Apex of Power, Dark-Dweller Oracle, Mind's Eye, Outpost Siege, Reforge the Soul and Skullclamp. For removal, I'm running Aligned Hedron Network, Blasphemous Act, Burn at the Stake, By Force, Goblin Bombardment and Vandalblast among others. Try sorting the deck by custom categories to see everything I have under Card Advantage and Removal.

@Neth: Hmmm, trade life for ? Yeah, I could see adding Treasonous Ogre. I'll have to pick one up.

@Shinkusenshi: I used to run Goblinslide in the early days of this deck. I really liked the idea of Goblinslide, but found in practice it added too little value compared to other cards that could take that card slot in the deck.

@iwhaleme: There's only 1 copy of Pia and Kiran Nalaar. I had the deck set to sort by custom categories, so it was showing that Pia and Kiran serve multiple roles in the deck, both generating tokens and dealing damage. I've changed the default sorting back to Type for clarity that cards aren't actually in there multiple times.

@SirFowler: Altar of the Brood's not a bad idea, I just have trouble thinking of what I'd cut to make room for it. I'll keep in in mind next time I find something to cut.

Suns_Champion on Firesongs

1 month ago

Hi! Sorry it took so long to get back to you!

I think you're missing Comet Storm and Molten Disaster, which are the two best X-spells available. Add those and replace Bonfire of the Damned and Hour of Devastation.

I personally do not like Revitalize, Reviving Dose, Ritual of Rejuvenation, or Spiritualize. Just my opinion.

Try out Humble Defector, The Immortal Sun, Treasonous Ogre, and Solemn Simulacrum.

Good luck!

Suns_Champion on Decided to change my cEDH ...

1 month ago

Hi! Think I can help, though I'm pretty sure "Boros cEDH deck" is rather oxymoronic haha!

First off, my credentials:

Super Smash Boros | Firesong & Sunspeaker EDH

Commander / EDH* Suns_Champion

SCORE: 183 | 177 COMMENTS | 17294 VIEWS | IN 69 FOLDERS


Commander / EDH Suns_Champion

SCORE: 219 | 104 COMMENTS | 16196 VIEWS | IN 86 FOLDERS

Check out the primer and card choices for all explanations. Mine is nowhere near tier 2.5 but it is fun to play. I focus heavily on Sunforger which makes it sub-optimal so ignore that section.

X-Spell discussion: Molten Disaster deserves include because of the split second, and Jaya's Immolating Inferno might be good in a pod of 4. Obviously, no discussion about X-Spells is valid without Neheb, the Eternal coming up. Treasonous Ogre is great if your lifegain can handle it. Also If you play in a creature heavy meta, Repercussion will be very useful to you. And finally, if you copy an X-Spell on the stack, maybe with Reverberate etc, the X amount will also be copied :)

Hopefully some of this helped, let me know if you have any questions about the card choices in my decks. Good luck!

Flash1995 on Slobad is Slogood

1 month ago

For creatures I'd get rid of Platinum Angel, she's a good angel but I think she'd be pretty inconsistent unless easily searched out. I don't like Treasonous Ogre, doesn't seem like a good fit. Dowsing Dagger  Flip is a nice card but there are some better cards out there. I personally like Blinkmoth Urn as a card to consider. I've tried Traxos, Scourge of Kroog in my Daretti deck and he didn't perform. You could look at taking out Skullclamp as well as it really doesn't contribute to your main goal of pumping out more creatures. These are just a few of my thoughts.

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