Treasonous Ogre

Legality

Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Custom Legal
Leviathan Legal
Legacy Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Conspiracy (CNS) Uncommon

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Treasonous Ogre

Creature — Ogre Shaman

Dethrone (Whenever this creature attacks the player with the most life or tied for most life, put a +1/+1 counter on it.)

Pay 3 life: Add {R} to your mana pool.

Treasonous Ogre Discussion

Strangelove on Marchesa, the Black Rose EDH

2 weeks ago

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Don't forget Thraximundar and Warstorm Surge ...

Here are some houses:

Bloodtracker ... must have imo

Herald of Secret Streams ... where'd this go?

Dack's Duplicate ... +1/+1 clone

Spark Double ... +1/+1 clone

Viscera Seer ... tier 1 version of Carrion Feeder

Mulldrifter ... if is too much then play this

Treasonous Ogre ... seems good

Harvester of Souls ... + Damnation ?

Reef Worm ... endless worms

Spawning Pit ... you can sacrifice the Spawn tokens to recoup 1/2 the value if they're wiped

Drana, Liberator of Malakir ... yes... anything that lets you ignore the throne is amazing

Yahenni, Undying Partisan ... it never leaves the board so expect 10+/10+

Toothy, Imaginary Friend ... yes

Midnight Reaper ... yes

Burnished Hart ... do not underestimate this

Goblin Bombardment ... yes

You could also try playing some big beefs that are wipe oriented like...

Ogre Slumlord

Overseer of the Damned

Ob Nixilis, Unshackled

Revel in Riches

If you count Merciless Executioner , Innocent Blood , etc, with wipes like Damnation , etc, you have 12 wipes and 5 removal... which is probably too much control.

To play aggressively, Marchesa needs evasive creatures with double strike ...or maybe even...

Core Prowler ... maybe

Flesh-Eater Imp ... I have one, you should try it out

Grafted Exoskeleton ... sacrifice might be nice

Viral Drake ... proliferating your +1/+1 counters would be pretty sweet

...Keep in mind Infect replaces damage so either make it a core theme or only play the ones that can get to 10 Infect quickly.

Demons would also be pretty sweet:

Archfiend of Depravity ... wipe

Defiler of Souls ... make them sacrifice

Demon of Wailing Agonies ... make them sacrifice

Havoc Demon ... wipe

Indulgent Tormentor ... another Bloodgift Demon

Kothophed, Soul Hoarder ... draw to get off the throne?

Krav, the Unredeemed ... seems good

Lord of the Void ... betrayal

Malfegor ... wipe?

Rakdos, the Showstopper ... wipe

Ravenous Demon  Flip... sacrifice Marchesa or take the 9 to get off the throne?

Reaper from the Abyss ... removal

Rune-Scarred Demon ... tutor

Silent-Blade Oni ... betrayal

Liliana's Contract ... hilarous

N_ on Zada - Swing Big

2 weeks ago

definitely run Aetherflux Reservoir ! paired with Treasonous Ogre which can be either drawn into or tutored with Imperial Recruiter . Guttersnipe I haven't tried yet. My Zada is a win turn 3-4 with a god hand and 5-7 turn win but majority are turn 5-6. I can win without aetherflux but the more win options the better. Treasonous Ogre is also a key piece in zada and it isn't expensive

McToters on Firesong and Sunspeaker's Burn Ward

3 weeks ago

Also since you are gaining life in this deck Treasonous Ogre could be a great option to squeeze some extra mana when needed!

antipopes on Zada, By the Mother of Cantrip

1 month ago

Oh man, do you need Bonus Round . And probably Treasonous Ogre .

I've never been a fan of Soul's Fire . It doesn't trigger Zada, and if you've got a creature big enough to kill someone with it you might as well run Chandra's Ignition instead and wipe the whole table (not that I recommend Ignition, it's just better than Soul's Fire).

I keep up a Zada primer, if you're interested, though my build is more oriented toward storming off with Aetherflux Reservoir / Fiery Gambit than combat:


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SakuraStorm on MONO-R STORM feat. CHANDRA *cEDH* [Mini-Primer]

1 month ago

@Frewsax Thanks! Haze of Rage is what makes it possible to score a kill with commanderdamage. T1 Chandra, T2 storm into HOR -> 1st opponent down. Requires like a lot of fastmana and you should btw. definately add Sol Ring to my build(sadly my playgroup houserule banned it). Hazoret the Fervent shines more in this regard, as she's got haste and is indestructible. Killing the whole table T3-4 is sometimes troublesome, but getting off a early Volcanic Awakening really helps. Also don't shy back on copying the ritual spells like Seething Song or paying almost all your life to Treasonous Ogre .

Liquidbeaver on Ib Halfheart, Goblin Sac-tician [PRIMER]

1 month ago

CyferHey! I took a look at your deck, and from what I can tell (as you said, I don't know your meta) I think you may just need to tweak your playstyle more than your deck. First off though, here is what I would switch up:

Creatures

Treasure Nabber : If you got this from my list, it was really just to troll my playgroup. It turned out they didn't have enough manarocks to be able to justify Nabber, and Lattice is expensive, and sets you up to fall victim to it yourself. If your meta has a lot of manarocks it may help, but this would be the first thing I cut.

Are you running the Goblin Goliath from your maybeboard? If not, definitely do that! It is very, very strong.

Enchantments

Vicious Shadows : I've never really liked this card, especially since I was always trying to stay so low to the ground, run as lean as possible on lands, and be able to rebuild after wipes. Maybe a Boggart Shenanigans in it's place? It won't hit as hard, but it will be a lot easier to get down, and can still be used politically.

Raid Bombardment is one of my core cards, and has won me a huge number of games. You don't get a lot of combat steps (for many reasons), so you have to make each one hit as hard as possible!

I would also considered switching to Snow-Lands (price should drop a lot with Modern Horizon printing) and getting Glacial Crevasses . It is seriously strong, and has saved my ass and helped stall until I could rebuild a number of times.

Instants

Fork Reverberate : I originally wasn't too keen on these, but added them almost on a whim, and I have been very happy with them so far. Being able to protect a cast of Blasphemous Act or doubling a Price of Progress or Goblin War Strike is huge.

Sorceries

Reforge the Soul : Honestly something I would like to revisit is having more wheels. I definitely like Memory Jar the most out of all of them, but Wheel of Fate / Wheel of Fortune and Reforge are something I want to try again. It's been a long time since I had Fortune in the deck.

Lands

Only suggestion is Ancient Tomb , the recent reprint dropped the price significantly. I especially your Valakut.

Planeswalkers

No issues here. Are you liking the Chandra?

Artifacts

Based on what you are already running, I think this is where you could have the most impact.

Expedition Map : I don't think this is as good unless we can recur it a lot.

Gauntlet of Power : Not a bad include, especially for the little buff, and would help rebuild more quickly after wipes, or more safely sac a few more mountains without losing mana output.

Ghirapur Orrery : I ran this for a long time, and ultimately ended up removing it because of just how rarely it would actually help me. My biggest struggle is having cards in hand AT ALL, not wishing I could cast something on someone else's turn. Maybe you have more luck with it than I did.

A few more mana rocks would help with safely saccing lands or rebuilding after a wipe. Crypt is costly, but maybe Mana Vault , or one of the plethora of 3 cost ones? Alternatively, Treasonous Ogre can be fantastic, and generates mana at instant speed! Maybe even Curse of Opulence

Rings of Brighthearth : I wish this wasn't as expensive, because I seriously get a lot of use out of this. A backup to Illusionist's Bracers that also hits a lot of things bracers can't is really, really nice. Maybe a Sculpting Steel if you don't want to drop that much on the Rings?

Spine of Ish Sah : I ran this, as well as the 7 cost instant version, for a very long time. This is a very hard slot to fill, and I wouldn't say I've ever been completely settled on the non-artifact removal portion. Chaos Warp is obviously a staple, and I've even tested Haphazard Bombardment for some non-enchantment hate, but I'm hoping Modern Horizons will get us some red or colorless stuff to work with.

As far as the list of other artifacts you are considering:

Ward of Bones : I'm leery of most non-Goblin cards over 5 mana, but this seems good if you can get a bit more ramp in the deck (mana rocks mostly).

Smokestack : I tried this at one point and that fact that it is symmetrical ended up being too hard to fight out from underneath. I would be more apt to run a Mana Web (which I am actively trying to get back in the deck) for disruption, and a form of protection on my turn. The number of spells I cast on opponent's turn is like... two (fork/reverb).

Damping Engine I would run this before I would run Ward. It's better in almost every way I think.

Ruination : Strictly a playgroup thing. My choice to go with "mass land dysfunction" instead of destruction was for in game politics, and also personal preference.

Sundial of the Infinite : What things would you want Sundial to help with?

As far as other protection based artifact suggestions, I would say Meekstone and Crawlspace would be my first picks. I also enjoyed Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs for this purpose, and he is protecting a mountain pass, perfect!

That's all I can think of for now. Let me know what you think!

CyborgAeon on Commanders by Power Level [EDH Tier List]

1 month ago

@ThrunTheTroll628

Your points are absolutely valid and I can definitely understand why you'd believe that godo is a slower deck that shouldn't be considered as high-power as it is. Here I'll hopefully show reasonable counterpoints to your arguments.
Forgive me if I'm wrong (@otherGodoPlayers) but Godo is considered a 0 card combo, as all you need to have is mana. It's irrelevant what's in hand, or on board, as you require only 11 mana to win. Furthermore, there are combos that become 1-card and require 5 mana fewer to pull off.

A fantastic example is Panharmonicon . This card allows you to search for Hammer of Nazahn in addition to helm, meaning that godo enters, gains indestructible and equips for no additional cost. Panharmonicon is also replaced in this instance by any "copy" effect - ie Heat Shimmer , Twinflame etc. all allow you to pull off this same effect for significantly less mana.

If you look into the extensive amount of work, time and research that went into this brew, you'll find that many cEDH players ie gtoast99, insertcleverphrasehere have spent a lot of time refining builds to come up with an evenly stax & combo efficient build. Looking at some builds that are only ritual effects and combo pieces, I could understand you'd be convinced the deck has flaws. But it's been proven time and time again that the best pilots show how worthy the deck is of it's tiered placement.
When you look at cards like Treasonous Ogre you may think "well, I'll add a mana here or there", but you could - in a godo build, see it as a single card that ends the game, as you have a 0 card combo in the command zone.

Admittedly, when you begin reviewing cards such as Soulbright Flamekin I can understand that the mana investment may not seem strong enough. Nonetheless, with all the fast mana available - the deck consistently pressures wins from 1-2 cards required. Though ritualling to victory is still an option

Absolutely fairly - you've found the crux of the deck. A pilot needs this card to resolve, or it's all for naught. With that in mind, I believe most decks run the full suite of blue specific counters, some even using Burnout . This is not always enough, but comparatively, often charbelcher wins legacy tournaments, just because sometimes you luck out and your opponents don't open with Force of Will . For that reason, both decks are considered strong
Yes, you've got a great point. Godo folds to A LOT of stax cards, but similar to the above, it consistently wins before these are an issue.

This point could be summed up with the above, but it's relevant for me to mention that many decks have switched from some of the above stax pieces to combat Flash -hulk decks, as they're just as fast as godo, but have more interaction and a greater consistent speed. While Torpor Orb & friends are great, most people have cut it from lists, as it doesn't do enough to combat the more common threats.

TL;DR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26SblcKLQsM

Mondo1212 on Feather The Redeemed

2 months ago

Here ya go, Derrick,

Where is Gamble

Ramp or extra mana

Fellwar Stone , Fire Diamond , Marble Diamond , MindStone, Sword of the Animist , Thought Vessel , Hardened Berserker , Treasonous Ogre , Neheb, the Eternal , Neheb, Dreadhorde Champion Desperate Ritual , Pyretic Ritual , Seething Song ,

Target spells that are dope

Coordinated Assault , Enrage , Otherworldly Outburst is cool and you can loop it if the creature you buff dies making a token, Samut's Sprint , Titan's Strength , Accelerate , Aleatory , Chaotic Strike , Stun , Niveous Wisps , Carom , Formation gives banding which is spicy, Spiritualize , Stave Off , Bathe in Light , Feat of Resistance , Chaos Warp target tokens to get permanets from your deck for free, and is good removal.

Heroic/Prowess Creatures cuz value

Vanguard of Brimaz , Fabled Hero , Tethmos High Priest , Leonin Iconoclast , Arena Athlete , Akroan Line Breaker , Monastery Swiftspear , Soul-Scar Mage , Dragon-Style Twins ,

these are some cards I think you should look at, don't need all and some might not fit exactly but if you like them then put them in. Cut some lands you can go down to 34 if you add in more artifacts, which go great with paradox engine.

Cards I think you should replace: Emerge Unscathed rebound fucks with your commander it exiles them not letting you put them back into your hand; Aurelia's Fury really expensive to get any good use out of it, or if you want protection during your turns run Grand Abolisher or Silence ; Expose Evil is too slow of a draw engine Mentor of the Meek with the tokens you make is better for drawing; Burnished Hart and Solemn Simulacrum are meh, better to go with artifact ramp that can feed the paradox plan, plus artifact ramp is cheaper and faster; speaking of artifacts Boros Cluestone and Boros Keyrune are good flavor options but aren't that good as other artifacts; Inferno Titan and Sun Titan are good creatures but don't fit into the game plan as well better to put things that help with the gameplan.

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Treasonous Ogre occurrence in decks from the last year

Commander / EDH:

All decks: 0.02%

Red: 0.25%