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|Commander 2017 (C17)||Uncommon|
|Commander Anthology (CM1)||Uncommon|
|Commander 2016 (C16)||Uncommon|
|Commander 2015 (C15)||Uncommon|
|Commander 2014 (C14)||Uncommon|
|Vintage Masters (VMA)||Uncommon|
|MTG: Commander (CMD)||Uncommon|
|From the Vault: Exiled (V09)||Mythic Rare|
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Artifact — Equipment
Equipped creature gets +1/-1.
Whenever equipped creature dies, draw two cards.
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17 hours ago
Hi faricane, nice to hear ya :) let me get through your points step by step.
- The cards
Muddle the Mixture is a good counterspell on its own . that way it has 2 purposes inside this list - tutor or counter.
Mercurial Chemister is just a personal thing. he granted me many cards in games as he wont be the first target to get removed. you could drop him for another tutor.
Commander's Sphere and Manalith are in here for my dramatic scepter combo as i need rocks to produce every kind of mana to go infinite with breya. for sure your mentions are a great addition. i just dont added them cause i dont have any more copies of them.
Rune-Scarred Demon is just a tutor and a beater on a stick. i just like him if games take the long run and i need to rely on some boardpresence. at least 7cmc is not a problem with all the mana ramp this list offers.
Zulaport Cutthroat is not really neccesary in this list. ya, he can go infinite within the sharuum-combo, but we have other options to winthe game without him. i would not add more effects like his one cause i like to fill the spots with other spells. i would only 1 spell in his slot that supports the sharuum-combo that way. you can go for Altar of the Brood instead.
Cyclonic Rift a great card and i played it many months in this list. then i just removed it for other decks. breya didnt need it that much. i go for the disk-combo instead to set opponents back in late game (if we even get there)
Saheeli's Directive and Time Sieve are really bad! why? they are only great when you have access to any infinite (mana or tokens) but at this point you already won the game. you dont need those "win-more" cards. they just steal slots of your 99s.
myr retriver and co.: we dont need much recursion. i already have Daretti, Scrap Savant, Goblin Welder, Sharuum the Hegemon and Academy Ruins. they are all better. at least we got Elixir of Immortality if things really went wrong lol.
Suggestions: you wrote that you would cut the Vampiric Tutor for budget reasons. i fully agree, but keep in mind: your fast pace relies on your tutors. VT is one of the cards i would really recommend for this deck as it is the fasted tutor besides Enlightened Tutor. on lucky days you might find a cheap one on ebay or other trading sides :)
1 day ago
Because you told me to.
Token Makers: Entrapment Maneuver, Assemble the Legion, Oketra's Monument, Increasing Devotion, Elspeth, Sun's Champion, Hordeling Outburst, Dragon Fodder, Raise the Alarm, Secure the Wastes, Krenko's Command, Angel of Invention, Benevolent Offering, White Sun's Zenith, Servo Exhibition, Launch the Fleet, Sram's Expertise, Deploy to the Front, Nomads' Assembly, Dawn of Hope, Martial Coup, Tilonalli's Summoner, Storm Herd
And if you take many of those token generating spells: Charmbreaker Devils
1 day ago
Hey :) could you add a description what exactly are your wincons? I see the Dramatic Reversal Isochron Scepter Combo for Infinite Mana With rocks. But what do you do if the scepter is removed, and so your Dramatic reversal. What do you imprint then?
Muddle the Mixture tutor for Isochron and dramatic reversal, but what to get if they are already removed?
Mercurial Chemister why him? I see the value with isochron but drawing two cards for 6 Mana in a full turn cycle or 4 cards for 7mana in two turns doesn't seem that god, correct me if I'm wrong I don't play that long.
Why Commander's Sphere Manalith ? Depends on what you need them for, Pillar of Originsnaming human works for breya and some cards and costs 1 less. Coalition Relic is better than Manalith in every way. I would prefer a Chromatic Lantern over manalith,too because there is no downside to do so.
Rune-Scarred Demon I know he's good, and works with the deadeye. But Diabolic Tutor is 3 Mana cheaper. Not sure about that but seems more reliable because you can keep open Mana. Or maybe Lim-Dul's Vault
What if Zulaport Cutthroat is removed?
Reshape - Tutor
Altar of the Brood - additional wincon if Zulaport dies
Tezzeret, Artifice Master - for Mercurial chemister maybe? Draws two cards most of the time without need to wait.
Cyclonic Rift - way too slow, I see that, but is a huge drawback for your opponents
Blood Artist - Zulaport again
Impact Tremors - Zulaport again
Disciple of the Vault - yep Zulaport again
Saheeli's Directive - semi-Loot/Tutor, awesome with Infinite mana
Time Sieve - with the ability of making xfinite thopters this can be awesome.
Tezzeret the Seeker - tutors, imo better that the demon, because he can do it Multiple times if you know exactly what you want and have blockers. Worst case next turn if he survives is Tutor for 1 CMC or ramping
All in all I like that Deck pretty much, but for Budget reason I'm gonna cut vampiric tutor for me.
As soon as it's build together I'll test it.
Hope for an answer:)
2 days ago
These are a few cards you could consider Hangarback Walker, Retrofitter Foundry, Skullclamp, Batterskull, Sword of Vengeance, Commander's Sphere, Expedition Map, Underhanded Designs, Price of Fame, Curtains' Call, and Go for the Throat.
Perhaps you could also try out these three Throne of Empires, Scepter of Empires, and Crown of Empires. I don't how good these would really be since I've never actually seen anyone try to assemble them, but there is part of the charm. I think this commander could pull it off. She has the recursion so you don't need to worry about losing them early and since she is Black, it lets you run more than enough tutors to go get them.
4 days ago
Thanks for the suggestions! Let me try and knock these out quickly...
Kjeldoran Outpost, Cathars' Crusade, Grand Abolisher, Hero of Bladehold, and Elspeth, Sun's Champion: All of these are good cards, but are also well outside the deck's budget. Cool for other people looking to upgrade, but hard on the wallet.
Darien, King of Kjeldor is a good card for certain decks, but isn't very helpful here. We have to take damage to get tokens out of him, and six mana for a pretty bad body isn't ideal. While there are situations where this creature is useful, it usually just isn't high impact enough to justify the high mana cost.
Entrapment Maneuver was in my original list for the deck, but after some thought I decided to remove it. It would be great, except that our opponent gets to pick which attacker they sacrifice, and by extension how many tokens we get. Since our deck design encourages our opponents to keep tapping their creatures of all sizes, this is often just a lot of mana for situational, sub-par removal and a couple tokens on the side.
Knight-Captain of Eos seems promising. It is three creatures in one, and while it is slower than the deck would like at 5 mana, having the option to fog at the cost of a soldier token isn't bad to at least threaten. I'll definitely consider it, though deciding what to take out may be arduous.
Lena, Selfless Champion is one I looked at very briefly, but it just isn't very helpful. She doesn't count existing tokens when entering, and the scenarios where we most need tokens is when we don't have many creatures in play. Indestructible for a turn is nice, but it won't save our entire board (sometimes if all the soldier tribal buffs are out it won't save any of our stuff), and because it sits on the board it is easy to play around for our opponents. While the card technically helps in multiple roles, it's also bad at each of those.
Skullclamp treads just under the line of our budget, but it's a card I feel very unsure of. It draws cards, but only when our stuff dies. Anthems put our tokens out of automatic death range, so we also have to cause trades we would otherwise avoid to get much value. It isn't a bad card, far from it, but I can't see it being more useful in this deck than any of the ones we would need to take out for it.
4 days ago
Gonna offer a few possibile additions for ya. Kjeldoran Outpost, Skullclamp, Cathars' Crusade, Darien, King of Kjeldor, Grand Abolisher, Hero of Bladehold, Lena, Selfless Champion, Knight-Captain of Eos, Elspeth, Sun's Champion and Entrapment Maneuver. I know some of the creatures are knights rather than soldiers but with their abilities to make soldier tokens and the knight-captains fog ability they would be worthy additions. Damn good deck though. Sounds like a lot of time has gone into what you’ve done here so maybe you’ve already looked at these cards and they didn’t make the cut. +1 from me.
5 days ago
Thanks carpecanum, Thada Adel, Acquisitor does seem like a really fun card and I'd love to try it out. Bit of a shame that she doesn't have power or toughness equal 1 but I've been looking for excuses to add Skullclamp to the deck and the +1/-1 can give her unblockable so I'm into it. I took Shapesharer out of the deck previously because ideally my opponents' scary threats won't stay long enough on the board to copy them but the synergy is pretty sweet and I'm liking this use your opponent's decks against them theme you have going in your suggestions.
5 days ago
Hey, this looks like a solid list so far, I like it, but there are a few things I highly recommend to make it much faster and more consistent
First off, I would highly recommend more card draw. I see you have some, but it could definitely use at least Rhystic Study and Sylvan Library. Those are possibly the best card draw engines in the format. Skullclamp also looks amazing in this deck.
Secondly, some more mana acceleration would greatly help the speed of the deck. I would recommend at the very least Birds of Paradise, Noble Hierarch, Bloom Tender, Mana Crypt, and Deathrite Shaman. Commander's Sphere, Thran Dynamo, Mana Vault, and Gilded Lotus also wouldn't hurt, but they aren't as essential.
I know they're not warriors and might seem kinda boring, but they are crucial to a successful deck. I would also recommend cutting the lands the enter the battlefield tapped in favor of all the fetchlands and original duals if you can afford them or can proxy them. Considering this optimized landbase, Farseek, Nature's Lore, and Skyshroud Claim all become viable options if you need them since they hit shocklands and the og duals as opposed to Cultivate and Harvest Season (though I don't think you really will need them).
As for cuts, at first glance, Archetype of Aggression doesn't seem overly strong considering the bulk of most of your creatures. Combat Celebrant seems redundant with Najeela, and Thrilling Encore is probably just better than Garna, the Bloodflame, but you might need to maintain your warrior count, you've done more testing than I with this deck, so that's up to you. Aggravated Assault seems unnecessary for the same reason as celebrant, but it's not even a warrior. Wretched Confluence is actually surprisingly weak, I'd recommend cutting that. Chance for Glory isn't really the greatest; it does nothing the vast majority of the game, sometimes all of the game. You're in blue, just run Time Warp if you want an extra turn. Kolaghan's Command is dissapointing in edh as compared to modern. If you're looking for something that hits multiple targets, you can run Decimate and Curtains' Call. I'd also recommend Austere Command for this. Noxious Revival seems kinda unnecessary for this kind of deck, but it's fine.
A few random suggestions to end off, I'd recommend at least having one or two emergency counterspells like Pact of Negation, Negate, and/or Disallow/Counterspell. I would also highly recommend a Craterhoof Behemoth. That thing slaughters people. Eldrazi Monument also seems great in this deck due to all the tokens you're generating.
Sorry, I know that's a lot more suggestions for additions than cuts, but that speaks to the power of the list you already have here. It's kinda tricky balancing the warrior count with other "better" options. Trust me, I played a Gishath, Sun's Avatar deck back when he was released, and keeping dino numbers high while trying to run as many cards that are just better was rough, but it can be done. Keep at it!