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Arguel's Blood Fast
, Pay 2 life: Draw a card.
At the beginning of your upkeep, if you have 5 or less life, you may transform Arguel's Blood Fast.
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Arguel's Blood Fast Discussion
2 weeks ago
Arguel's Blood Fast Flip is a nice way to keep your foot on the gas and get that spawn adding counters quickly. Or a good way to get rid of it when you flip it and get some of that life back if needed. Sideboard option perhaps.
2 weeks ago
I've been playing this deck on arena for the last few weeks and here is what my findings are:
Arterial Flow is probably best as a x3 of, I felt that x4 was too much for the deck, and having 1 well timed flow is a big play for this deck.
Abnormal Endurance is a good x2 of in this deck, acting as protection for our creatures, a combat trick and allows us to double up on some of our enter the battlefield triggers like Vampire Sovereign .
1x mainboard Arguel's Blood Fast Flip has worked very well and is a big play in the matches you have it as you run out of cards quickly and the lifeloss from activation is mitigated by our lifegain cards.
3 weeks ago
I_TappedWrong, I chose Greed over Arguel's Blood Fast Flip specifically because of the higher per-turn cost of the latter. Sure, it may only be one mana, but that one mana might be the difference between me drawing an extra card that turn or not. Greed does have a higher initial cost, but it seems worth it to cut the per-turn cost down to one.
I'm not seeing the advantages of Moonlight Bargain over Phyrexian Arena . I don't really need to wait for the Phyrexian Arena to become profitable, since it starts netting me an extra card the turn after I play it. Moonlight Bargain is a one-time use card, whereas Phyrexian Arena sticks around until someone decides to deal with it, potentially causing someone to waste some removal. If there was an enchantment that had wording along the lines of Moonlight Bargain I would consider including it in the deck, but I don't think that particular instant is going to find a slot.
As for the talismans, they don't seem as versatile as the signets. I'd be hard-pressed at times to choose between the two options a talisman provides, versus just filtering another color through a signet and getting two colors back. I like the fact that the talismans cost life to activate though, so I may run a few games with the signets swapped for the talismans to see how they perform.
Thanks for the suggestions! I look forward to testing out any edits I make to my deck.
3 weeks ago
any reason why you choose Greed over Arguel's Blood Fast Flip? i know its 2 cmc to activate but its a 2 drop and would help round out your CMC curve sense you have a large number of 4 and 3 drops. i would also consider running Moonlight Bargain over Phyrexian Arena i know it seems crazy but phyrexian arena takes so long to become profitable. i would also consider running Talisman of Dominance and Talisman of Indulgence over the Izzet Signet type cards. Solemn Simulacrum is just so good in this type of deck with a sac outlet.
4 weeks ago
@squadcarxmar: I meant to put Teysa, Orzhov Scion in the deck originally but when I was making the final decklist I totally forgot about it. I might drop Blistergrub for it because so far it's been kind of underwhelming. Necropotence is iffy. I have one but in my experience it's more suited towards faster decks and this deck tends to be a little slower, although now that I think about it I should probably put it in my Rakdos deck. Normally I'd put Erebos, God of the Dead in over Arguel's Blood Fast Flip but from the games I've played with the deck so far the flip side of blood fast is more relevant in this deck. I am thinking about replacing it with Stoneforge Mystic to go and get Skullclamp though, or maybe Vampiric Rites . Not too sure about Twilight Drover . I might give it a shot as more sac fodder.
On another note I'm thinking about removing Sol Ring and possibly Pitiless Plunderer from the deck. So far they've been nothing but win more cards. I'm curious what your thoughts on that are. I appreciate the feedback!
4 weeks ago
LitillStaralfur I like to think of my land needs in terms of percentages, Plus or Minus depending on Mana Symbol intensity of spells.
(for instance if you're 50/50 on White and Black Spells, but you're running a playset of Murder which uses 2 Black in the Mana Cost, you will need more Black Mana Sources than White Mana Sources early on, so something closer to a B/W, 60/40 split in your Lands makes more sense.)
The spread of your mana is a tricky thing and it is highly dependent on WHEN you need the mana as well as how much of it you need overall. If you need Red on turn 3 to hit your Curve with Judith, then that takes high priority, meaning you'll need to include more Dual-Color Sources so you can Play a Turn 1 Hunted Witness (W), Turn 2 Pitiless Pontiff (BW), Turn 3 Judith, the Scourge Diva (1RB).
The best thing you can do is obviously have as many Untapped Dual Mana sources as possible as they fill the requirement of two of your color needs. Unfortunately running 12 Shock Lands means red decks will run over you, especially with the inclusion of new Pseudo-Lightning Bolt, Skewer the Critics . Which means you'll need a healthy blend of Shock Lands for consistency, Check Lands such as Clifftop Retreat and Dragonskull Summit , and Basics.
I would proxy up your Mana Base before buying. Play test it, and see what needs tweaking.
If you go the Judith route, it's worth noting that Tokens are no longer a sacrifice-to-damage option, so use them as your Frontline with Judith's Anthem effect in play. I'd Try something like this.
- 1 CMC
- 2-3x Hunted Witness
- 2-3x Footlight Fiend Can be Sideboard tools against small creature decks if you want to use other creatures in the Mainboard
- 2 CMC
- 3-4x Orzhov Enforcer
- 4x Pitiless Pontiff
- 2-3x Costly Plunder
- 2-3x Tithe Taker
- Give 2x Glass of the Guildpact a try if you find that a true Sacrifice-to-Damage style Aristocrat deck isn't getting you all the way. It gives your deck a lot of Range to compete against the Life Gain decks floating around.
- 3 CMC
- 3-4x Ministrant of Obligation
- 3-4x Judith, the Scourge Diva Card # dependent on creature removal in your local meta
- 2x Midnight Reaper
- 3-4x Mortify Every deck that runs creatures hates this. Every deck that doesn't run creatures hates this too.
- 4 CMC
- 3x Teysa Karlov
- 2-3x Seraph of the Scales Alternative Win-con just as a Beater.
- 2-3x Kaya's Wrath I think 2 Main Board, 1 Side Board. This card will save your life against Token strategies.
- 24 LANDS
- 3x Blood Crypt
- 3x Clifftop Retreat
- 3x Dragonskull Summit
- 4x Godless Shrine
- 4x Isolated Chapel
- 2x Mountain
- 2x Plains
- 3x Swamp
I didn't feel Sacred Foundry was Necessary or Advisable. You're not gaining Life with this deck. Hammering yourself with 12 Shock Lands will get you killed incredibly quickly, either due to self-inflicted life loss, or due to Tempo loss from having to play them tapped when you're nearly dead.
For Sideboard consider:
4 weeks ago
As a long time player of Teysa, Orzhov Scion I'd recommend running her. I run her as my general and plan on using Karlov in my deck. They compliment each other well (but now I gotta rework some of my deck). Not only do you get more tokens as long the creature dying is black but you'll get a lot of creature control out of it. Twilight Drover works really well with either Teysa and with both of them, it gets a little insane. That's also something to consider.
If you want suggestions of what to take out for those two, in my opinion it would be things like Cartel Aristocrat , Blistergrub or Arguel's Blood Fast Flip. I'm not a fan of that enchantment, I'd rather just run Necropotence but that's my opinion. Blistergrub is at most just 4 life for everyone to eat if you're not pulling back out of the graveyard.
Otherwise, nice deck! I dig it. I'm happy to see a good new Teysa card and new EDH decks based on it, it warms my heart.
EDIT: I forgot to mention that tokens dying does trigger Twilight Drover but if they leave the battlefield in other means (return to hand, exile, etc.) he still gets a +1/+1 counter for each one anyway, which is nice.
1 month ago
I think you need some more card draw. Phyrexian Arena would be a straight upgrade to Underworld Connections , and Necropotence should be considered, as well. Other great options available in include Vampiric Rites , Greed , Thallid Soothsayer , and Arguel's Blood Fast Flip.
Arguel's Blood Fast occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.29%
All decks: 0.0%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.09%
W/B (Orzhov): 0.08%